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Whining about being part of the same group that most rapists belong to when the overarching conversation is about how we prevent horrific crimes like gang rape is a choice a lot of men are making in here.
If you feel it’s more important to soothe men’s hurt feelings about being in the same group as most rapists rather than focusing on how we reduce rape, you have completely missed the fucking point.
I agree that they’re missing the point, but if you think the point of threads like this is to focus on how to reduce rape, so are you. The point is to stimulate and/or vent anger about rape, barely even paying lip service to reducing it.
Awareness is half the battle. Social pressure can move mountains.
Awareness is far less than half the battle lol, but what a nice rationalization for dodging the actual work - let me write that down!
Posting news stories or about news stories is not mutually exclusive to other work towards rape reduction.
Technically, but in practice we both know the one usually happens without the other.
What do you think you’re accomplishing by trying to silence people demanding consequences for rapists?
First of all fuck this conversation for bringing up depressing statistics.
The 93℅ of convicts being male is something I cannot debate. Even the number of cases being registered brings it down to 90℅, so even if some men are hiding, I don’t think the numbers extrapolate below 85℅. Which honestly makes sense, rape is defined by power dynamics, and men are usually stronger than women, and 93℅ number matches closely with the strength distribution of male to female. Which is, 5℅ of women are stronger than 50℅ of the men. So even if I consider female to male rape being under reported, I don’t think margin would be that large, and would largely be balanced by women who don’t report.also looking up similar data from the EU only makes this case stronger. Only thing I have against the case is some anecdotes I’ve read when it comes to bars and discos about women being perpetrators far more often than numbers suggest, but like I said, those are anecdotes from reddit, so I’m not giving much weight to it till I see it myself,(or atleast if I see similar point being brought up in different threads). I tried being factual but fuck me for looking up all these numbers.
Secondly, it’s complex issue. Your beliefs and Morality is not just in your parents hands, it’s also your friends and by large today especially, the algorithm of your feed.
My biggest issue whenever y’all try to send messages like this is, these just never reach the people who need to hear it. As a man, I’m either in a group that’s actually full of women respecting people, or a place that doesn’t hesitate body shaming women on her freaking face. And I said “place” which means this is a socially accepted behavior amongst almost Everyone there. And what can I do when everyone around me is beyond redemption? I’ve met a guy who seriously took objection to the fact that most people chose to have their mothers signature in a form instead of their fathers. And yes, he was being misogynist, and he almost took pride in being called so.
Look I’m a socially awkward guy. I have no friends from that ‘place’. And if you ask me, they were beyond redemption anyways. Some might grow up in future, some won’t. I respect you western women for atleast avoiding people who display such behaviors, cause some women here didn’t even object. I had to think twice before standing up for someone cause how casually some of them treated it.
Rest I don’t even know what to say. It’s just depressing to talk about rapes in general.
Rest I don’t even know what to say. It’s just depressing to talk about rapes in general.
Trust, I don’t enjoy talking about this subject. But I think it’s important. Because there’s a general sentiment that feminism has gone far enough and that we’ve corrected enough to give women equality.
We haven’t. So I keep talking about it. And I keep posting news articles because this keeps happening over and over and over again.
I posted some stats here that cover a range of issues.
Don’t lump yourself in with the men that choose to put their selfish wants above other’s boundaries if you don’t do so. Continue to speak up for the women in your life. That’s all that anyone can ask of you here.
This one’s not even that bad when it comes to getting lumped, cause I know only monsters do stuff like this, and I am not one of them, or almost anyone I’m in touch with.
Honestly most depressing one was when the grok was on a freaking rampage of nudifying women without their consent at the start of the year. Idk it was something freaking dystopian shit unfolding in front of my eyes, especially seeing how laxed government response was. I remember Linus from Linus tech tips getting emotional thinking this could be his children one day, and I realised I’m kinda lucky in that regard, cause my loved ones don’t post pictures online. But still, just the fact that something we considered sexual harassment until yesterday today became the new normal was horrifying. And barrier of entry was so low it could have just been any random guy who was doing that.
I still think we didn’t do enough to prevent this from happening silently.
If the messaging doesn’t work let’s just keep doing it with no changes and tell everyone who misinterprets it they’re wrong? How is it I see the same comments on these posts for literally the past 10 years, clearly it’s not being communicated effectively.
The rapists in this particular story never saw any punishment outside of having to write some essays.
We could start with holding rapists accountable for their crimes. Until then, we’re not going to shut up about how many men are raping us with no consequences.
I agree with you. Men need to be taught better and most rapist are men due to the obvious. However crime statistics always make me feel kinda gross and reminds me of conservatives doing the same for black crime statistics.
However crime statistics always make me feel kinda gross and reminds me of conservatives doing the same for black crime statistics.
I think there’s a fundamental difference.
Overpolicing of poor and black neighborhoods by racist cops looking to meet quotas creates “crime statistics”.
But this is under policing of rich white fraternities, resulting in chronic misconduct by a select few bad actors.
At some point, it’s like talking about serial killers or pedophiles from a racial lense, when the problem isn’t racial. It’s the fact that you don’t arrest Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Epstein, and they crank up the statistics for their cohort single handedly.
However crime statistics always make me feel kinda gross and reminds me of conservatives doing the same for black crime statistics.
You’d rather we don’t track the problem?
The numbers, even if they’re slightly inaccurate (which I don’t think they’re far off), show that there’s a clear imbalance as to who are the perpetrators. Women know this from experience as well.
There’s many reasons that men are overwhelmingly the demographic that rapes people and they’re not waived away by simply claiming that people are being sexist against men.
93.6% of sexual abuse offenders were men in 2021 in the US.
Convicted offenders. Worth the precision.
Also worth mentioning for the precision.
Velma, this is exactly why I love you so much 💚
<3
Thanks for being a voice with me, dkppunk.
My face when reading some of these comments
Some of y’all guys are nasty
Somehow that picture has a similar vibe to this oldie:
I found that one around here somewhere right as I was going through a full Voyager watch. I haven’t used it before, but it’s perfect for some of the men in this comment section. Just so yuck!
Always have your back lady 💚
93.6% of sexual abuse offenders were men in 2021 in the US.
Statistics don’t matter if there is a bias at the data gathering level.
Thebkind if statistic that always gets shot down is the fact that woman-on-man rape is under reported, doesn’t get taken seriously when it does get reported, and usually doesn’t even get filed, and so makes no blip on rape statistics.
Also consider this a warning for misinformation. Bring sources if you’re going to push statistics.
You know when you shouldn’t be bringing up male victim statistics?
When we’re literally discussing events around a male on female gang rape that was “handled” with having to write an essay
Bringjng that up here and now here just makes you look like you’re trying to derail the conversation
so makes no blip on rape statistics.
You’re pushing misinformation. It is tracked:
Most identified victims of child sexual abuse are girls, but boys also experience serious harm. Child protective services records show that boys make up a larger share of identified victims among younger children than among teenagers.
According to child protective services records, boys account for 30% of sexual abuse victims ages 0-11.
Among victims ages 12-17, boys account for 11%.
Sexual violence against men and boys is often overlooked, but police files show that it happens across multiple types of reported sex crimes.
Nationwide, in 11% of reported rapes, the victim is male.
Every survivor deserves to be recognized, believed, and supported. Naming sexual violence against men and boys helps make sure fewer survivors are left out of the conversation.
18% of U.S. men experience verbal sexual harassment at work or in public during their lifetimes.
At least 4% of rape is perpetrated by women.
Each year, an average of 5,510 female perpetrators are reported for rape, according to law enforcement reporting.
Bias does not account for the staggering difference between perpetrators though:
According to child protective services agencies nationwide, 89% of identified child sexual abuse perpetrators are male.
About 8% of identified offenders are female. The rest are unknown or unclassified.
Sexual violence can happen to anyone, but police files show that reported rape overwhelmingly involves female victims.
Nationwide, female victims experience nearly 9 in 10 reported rapes.
These numbers make clear why prevention, accountability, and survivor support must address the disproportionate harm experienced by girls and women, while recognizing that every survivor deserves care. Source
Clearly you don’t know what statistical bias looks like.
You are responsible for perpetuating a problem.
You think Rainn.org is biased?
Go ahead and bring your unbiased sources. I’m waiting.
The only men Ive known who were raped, were raped by other men.
Most rapists of women, children, and men are other men. You’re not wrong with this point.
overarching conversation is about how we prevent horrific crimes like gang rape is a choice a lot of men are making in here.
That is not how the conversation is framed. The conversation is framed on shaming and bullying all men, because some men are rapist. Why are you surprised that many react negatively to it?
If you feel it’s more important to soothe men’s hurt feelings about being in the same group as most rapists rather than focusing on how we reduce rape, y
Do you remember the bear in the woods?
If the narrative (in the mass media) was about reducing rape, it would be focused on HOW to do it. Not on tar and feather. This is not productive, this is airing anger.
I live in the EU (location is important in rape prevention discussion), a country in dead center of it. There was once a panel about rape prevention in tv, some minor politician, that’s it.
Noone really offers any solutions, even in this thread, so I can well damn start.
There are multiple reasons why people commit rape, how they do, why thy feel enabled. Those are ALWAYS tied to the culture, as law doesn’t prevent crime, only dictates punishments.
Do we agree on that?
Lets distinguish native rape crimes from foreign-born rape crimes, and focus only on the first (example, Germany, 40% perpetrators are foreign born).
Continuing on our example, Germany, when asked and studied, convinced rapists often turn out to be societal “losers”, with reinforced online presence especially in “incel” and similar circles, including blackpill etc communities. Even the underground ones. When studied, psychologists often ascribe the crime to entitlement or desire for domination. The future rapists feel validated by anonymous people online, until the thought of commiting rape normalizes in their heads.
I can’t be the only person who thinks the solution to this particular portion of the problem (in our example likely the largest) is quite simple: mandatory online ids, that remove the possibility of anonymous circles. Break the enablers group.
Hello from Europe too,
40% of foreign born convicted offenders doesn’t sound as a surprise, as it still make 60% of national convicted offenders (despite our education, culture, and other similar things we use to think ourself different). Also, the majority of “loosers” in the convicted people could hide some inequality (“winners” being protected).
The cases I personaly know aren’t representative. But they happend in the middle class, by family members, and the victims were requested to keep silence by their whole family. To protect the honor and integrity of the family, and because they “would be responsible” of spliting the family. And if the victim don’t go to police, their is “no case” (officially, in the stats)…
Also, when the accused is from high class, they are rarely convicted. Most find a way to escape it, even when as Dominique Strauss-Khan the facts are clear (you have heared about it, but you forgot); their money and power allow them to avoid infamy. Not condemn, so not part of the numbers.
Also, the number of cases rising from the past let me think their are not more cases now thanks to Internet, but that Internet allows victim to unite so they dare speak. Restricting internet anonymity could reduce this and turn them back to silence, which would make less cases in tribunals and papers, but most likely more cases in real.
But so, I feel like giving to kids an education about this, and letting them know they have spaces to talk about the problems they may live or witness, and providing such spaces (not only for kids) to listen them anonimously, and accompany them ; is an easy and cheap step which could help a lot. Or am I wrong?
This post is framing the conversation around preventing rape and specifically says it is not all men.
The majority of rapists are men though.
You
rapists rather than focusing on how we reduce rape,
Me
Okay, lets focus on reducing rape then. Gives an example.
Also you
The majority of rapists are men though.
Okay. Can we get back to taking about reducing rape? I gave a proposal, an okay analysis of one facet of it, do you have an opinion on it? Your own thoughts? If you do not want to share them, then that is also okay, but I do believe sincerely that calling “we should focus on it” and then not focusing on it, is not going to be helpful.
The conversation is framed on shaming and bullying all men, because some men are rapist. Why are you surprised that many react negatively to it?
No, let’s be clear here. You are complaining that the majority of rapists are men and that people are accurately pointing that out.
There’s two direct approaches that are being actively discussed here - punish rapists appropriately and teach our children about consent and respecting boundaries.
There’s two direct approaches that are being actively discussed here - punish rapists appropriately.
Punishment is reactive. No law prevents crime. Even capital punishment did not lower the crime rate to 0.
USA has 2.5 times higher rape rate than Germany (and Germany has no means no laws, that meant to help reporting rapes).
It could be that - if that is your country - you need stricter judicial punishments for rape! But do note that is not the ultimate solution. It can be one of first steps necessary in your country, but won’t be the last.
our children about consent and respecting boundaries.
Again (comparing Germany and USA rates) this seems to be step in correct direction, but at best it will get you somewhere in the ballpark of Germany rate (progress, but not ideal).
I do believe my proposal (mandatory online Id) would be a next step in the solution - but then I am stomped.
Even capital punishment did not lower the crime rate to 0.
Harsher sentencing doesn’t necessarily help beyond a certain minimum level required to make people consider it a meaningful punishment. The more important thing is consistent and vigorous application of the law. If people aren’t even being investigated, let alone charged or convicted, they’re going to feel emboldened to continue offending.
It could be that - if that is your country - you need stricter judicial punishments for rape!
Yes that is directly being called for here in the US about this issue.
No, let’s be clear here. You are complaining that the majority of rapists are men and that people are accurately pointing that out.
I dont think so? At least that was not my intention.
I do agree that #notallmen is reactionary.
I also believe that the media pressure is calling all the men rapists.
I was trying to convey that having any kind of movement (because to decrease the rape rate, we will need to have a grassroot movement to push the issue) that alienates part of society, will not be successful. And campaigning on hurting the feelings of men is a bad, pointless idea. Why do it. What for? That’s not solving the problem.
I will reply to the second part separately, it will be easier that way
And campaigning on hurting the feelings of men is a bad, pointless idea.
No one is campaigning on hurting the feelings of men. Rapists can use some hurt feelings and some fucking jail time though.
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Hey, uh, quick question, dipshit: Does South Korea, with its mandatory online IDs, have a sexual violence problem?
Also, you sound like a white nationalist, so fuck off.
Germany rape rate per 100k is higher than South Korea. Are you asking for a cwtch all magical solution from the start? I’m not a god.
Also, you sound like a white nationalist, so fuck off.
(Me literally making sure noone would try to go that way)
Same to you too I guess (apparently mod is biased that I am not allowed to use the same words as you).
And I do find it abhorring that you’re going for bullying and airing your anger instead of trying to even discuss how bring the solutiin into existence
Fuck off is different than fuck you.
Noted. This is not my first language, that’s all I can say for myself.
You blamed rape on “foreign-born” people, and said it was a “cultural problem”. Considering that you also used the prosecuted rate (which would inherently target minorities by virtue of systemic injustices and bias your results) as opposed to using something that would more accurately show the true population of sexual assaults (such as reported sexual assaults), it kinda tips your hand that you’re dogwhistling white supremacy talking points.
Also, I point out South Korea because your solution sucks. A better solution is to not protect sexual assaulters. Fun fact, most sexual assaults aren’t prosecuted, and even more aren’t reported, and you know who gets shit on for that? Women! I hear from men, more often than I should, that women should report their assaults, and in the same breath, talk about how they have to prove they were assaulted. And if you think about that, like really think about it, having to find the proof you were assaulted is fucking insane. The police constantly lose rape kits or don’t even fucking do them. Accusers are harassed nonstop. People speculate about what the woman did to get herself into that situation, but never the fucking man. No, a false accusation could ruin his fucking life, but being sexually assaulted somehow means you have to be the one to prove a crime happened.
Why is it so fucking hard for people to wonder why sexual assault is so underreported?
You blamed rape on “foreign-born” people, and said it was a “cultural problem”.
Please read my post again. I wrote that according to statistics about 40% of rapes are committed in Germany by foreign born people, and that I literally will ignore it for the rest of my post. Like literally literally.
What are you arguing with? Statistics? Me saying I am going to ignore that because it could be tainted, and then quoted psychologists reports that only targeted native Germans, again ignoring foreign born pops to not taint?
After removing the foreign born population from the discussion, I wrote that rape occurrence is directly related to culture of the country/people (meaning, again, ignoring foreign borns part because that could be tainted).
And then you came, swinging some white supremacist shit.
such as reported sexual assaults)
Literally the number I used.
Also, I point out South Korea because your solution sucks
Why? You gave no argument nor reason why it would suck.
The police constantly lose rape kits or don’t even fucking do them. Accusers are harassed nonstop
Literally what I called culture.
Now you are ascribing USA police culture of rape perpetrator protection to German police. Excuse me, but I know nothing of USA’s. Literally (I keep using this word a lot when replying to your comment, it is frustrating) mentioned that in my first post.
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Yet all men are deeply distrusted by default. Maybe “the point” is that men are people too and people deserve love? Maybe the idea that we can’t judge an entire race/ethnicity/religion/gender/group based on the actions of a few also applies to men?
Men are victims are the patriarchy too you know.
“Imagine a bowl of M&Ms. 10% of them are poisoned. Go ahead. Eat a handful. Not all M&Ms are poison.”
Many people picture rape as an attack by a stranger. But FBI crime data shows that 76% of reported rapes are perpetrated by someone the victim already knew.
These perpetrators include acquaintances, friends, and neighbors; romantic partners and spouses; and parents, siblings, and other family members.
When rape and sexual assault start to diminish, more people can trust men initially. As it is, men can be extremely dangerous, especially to women and children.
Trust, but verify. If you are not a man who rapes, then do not pre-emptively group yourself in with those men.
People who avoid men or distrust them are protecting themselves. They aren’t attacking you.
Genuinely not trying to be obtuse, but I think a reading of “not all men” is what one could describe as not preemptively grouping yourself with them. It reads to me, perhaps naïvely, as drawing a line perhaps with that specific goal? No one disputes the existence of men, and “not all men” implies two groups, no?
What do you envision as a way to communicate a distinction such that you don’t suggest you’re not a man, but also say you’re not a rapist?
Don’t rape others. Understand consent. Treat people with respect. Callout other men’s bad behavior.
Sigh… I hope someday you choose to view other people as people and stop looking for reasons to live in fear and hatred.
I live a quite full life with wonderful people, no need to worry about me. I’m just posting the news - when rape stories stop being written, I’ll stop posting them.
People can be terrible. It’s good to not be ignorant to that.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all teach that women are inferior possessions of men. That’s the “faith” of about 70% of people in USA.
Do they all believe that women are inferior? No, many do not. But, it’s one more excuse to be an asshole.
(all of these religions are tax free, with benefits far and above any non-profit. Each of these religions are unfathomably wealthy and have been acquiring wealth at sword point for centuries, aren’t they rich enough yet?)
Cool, but Simon Pegg is British though
Great Britain is is still about 50% Christian, so it checks out (and 7% Muslim).
That’s a majority of the population being raised in faiths that say that women are inherently inferior.
We’re secular mate, only freaks and weirdos are religious here, majority are just “I’m X faith cause my mum is” and don’t care about it
It doesn’t matter what you think. They have a census and everything, almost 50% claim to be Christian, I’ll believe their claims about their faith over your claim that is based on the 50 people you know.
I bet they know better than you about themselves.
Besides, Britain or USA, the point remains identical. Christian history remains real, and Christian influence continues to permeate.
Lastly… Cornell is in USA, so just admit defeat and sulk away. I was being kind to your point for your sake, friend.
We need to educate our sons
Idk, man. There was a time for education, but now I think these sons just need to be hit with the belt until all the rape is knocked out of them.
If you are a man, you probably wont rape someone. However, if you were raped, it was almost certainly done by A man. You can blame the individual, for sure, but you can also blame the people who know these things about a rapist and continue to associate with them, or fail to teach their sons how to react, or fail to dissuade locker room talk that can lead to dangerous thoughts, or fail to sufficiently shame manosphere creators/followers.
Toxic masculinity is a male issue, and more importantly its everyone’s issue. It takes a villiage and all that
I like the hashtag #notallmen, because it identifies the men to stay the fuck away from.
I read “no tall man”
What a shitshow of a comment section.
The facts:
- Most rapists are men
- Not all rapists are men
- Most men are not rapists
- Most women personally know another woman who was a victim
- Most men don’t personally know a man who was a perpetrator
This leads to three things:
A. Many women feel unsafe around men, particularly those they do not know well. (Points 1 and 4)
B. Many men feel prejudiced in conversations on this topic (Points 2,3, and 5)
C. The discourse runs in circles between A and B, failing to change anyone’s mind because either 1+4 or 2+3+5 more important depending on the speaker.
To add, it isn’t just prejudice in conversations but social inclusion, workspace hostility, and community resource allocation biases. It is a prejudice when women prefer less men around, especially in public spaces and spaces meant to be shared. But some prejudices are more equal than others.
- Supporting women doesn’t mean never supporting men.
Boys and men are often harmed by messaging around sexual assault that says over and over, all men are violent people who cause harm. Supporting the men caught in the crossfire between women’s advocacy and sexually predatory men,can exist without undermining the effort for women. However, if your efforts to change or erase male behavior can’t be accomplished without harming innocent men, then why should those men, or society, support that effort? How can they? You’ve decided some people can be sacrificed for the interests of women without their consent. That isn’t advocacy, it’s supremacy.
Cause you are most likely to know them but not know they’re perpetrators. Remember, you’re most likely to get SA’d by someone you know vs someone you don’t know. It could be a relative of yours. It could be a friend you least expected or most expected. But don’t expect you would know who it was or would be.
Lets check the math here.
Most men don’t personally know a man who was a perpetrator
According to the USA’s statistics (I will use it here because it is quite high), it is about 5 rapists per 100 000 people.
A lot of offenders are multiple offenders. Comparing that to the reported rape occurrences and the actual estimations, assuming average lifespan of 75, if a man is 30 he needs to personally know ~60 men his age to statistically know a rapist, and about 28 men his age if he is 60.
I do not think therefore your sentence is true. I do believe that most men personally know a rapist, but hopefully they don’t know about it.
Most women personally know another woman who was a victim
According to the USA’s statistics (I will use it here because it is quite high), it is 37.5 per 100 000 people.
This is yearly data. Estimates are that in the USA only 1 in 4 performed rapes is reported. Assuming an average life of 80 years, and (from USA statistics that about 80% of victims are younger than 30), a 30 years old woman needs to know 6 women to statistically know a rape victim. And among 70 years old, just 5.
Most women personally know another woman who was a victim Most men don’t personally know a man who was a perpetrator
Points 4 and 5 are contradictory. Assuming men and women are in equal proportions in the population and distribute normally, the only way this would be possible is if somehow all the men in a single neighbourhood commit all the rapes around the city. This doesn’t stand up to common sense.
The real problem here is arguments of authority are presented without the possibility to disagree with them, even as they don’t hold up on face value.
Distribution of male rapists also can’t be assumed to be uniform. So clusters will create spaces where significantly fewer men know a male rapist, which will skew the median significantly.
They aren’t contradictory if a drastically small portion of men are doing a hell of a lot of sexual violence.
That said, point 5 should be “most men do not believe/know any men they know are rapists”. That can take many forms, such as not knowing their work buddy’s personal life, thinking serious offenses are less serious than they are, not seeing any warning signs, choosing not to see warning signs, not recognizing warning signs…
Most rapists seem to not be telling the guys that they’re raping people (though I’m a chick so idk), they’re keeping quiet, hiding it, reframing it, etc. And most men aren’t shown/don’t learn the signs that a guy is predatory, in something I think can be compared to how people raised with a narcissist in the household can sense it, while those who weren’t may not be able to see through the charming mask.
Victims and perpetrators aren’t 1-1. Sexual violence isn’t distributed normally - minority of men commit a majority of the sexual assault.
Knowledge of that perpetrator is spread through the network of every woman they victimize, while it is limited to his own personal network of male non-victims.
This is before considering the fact that people are more likely to discuss being a victim than being a rapist. Even if each rapist had exactly 1 victim, it would still be more likely for women to know someone who was raped than for the male acquaintances of the perpetrator to know that they know a rapist. Doubly so given that many rapes are not officially reported, and many that are do not get prosecuted.
I have many uncles and male cousins. I don’t think any of them are rapists, but the stats are pretty decent at least one is. All of my aunts have stories of perverse behavior by males, and one was kidnapped and raped repeatedly.
It’s always interesting to be a woman lurking in these sort of niche, male-dominated spaces. By interesting, I mean rage-inducing. Thanks for another great post, Velma.
You get it :)
Unfortunately too many fathers are trying to recreate themselves.
Maybe they’re too busy dealing with the constant assault on their identity by people telling them who they need to be without regard to who they actually are.
Fathers have a responsibility to not pass down their rapist tendencies to their children regardless of the weights of the world that we all have to deal with one way or another.
“Do it even if you can’t, or we’ll hurt you!” And we wonder why male spaces are becoming so aggressive…
“or we’ll hurt you!” Where did you get this?
Asking for jail time for rapists isn’t a wild idea.
From the harm your extremist views cause. Demanding ppl do things beyond their capabilities is harm.
Demanding that men stop raping people is asking them for something beyond their capabilities? You have a dismal view of men.
Not most men either.
The post says “a lot of men”, not “most men”.
I’m saying “almost no men”.
According to FBI crime data, an average of 107,418 U.S. men are the perpetrators of reported rape each year.
Each year, an average of 5,510 female perpetrators are reported for rape, according to law enforcement reporting.
This is what happens when the legal system is based on how much money you have.
I agree with what he said here.
But it’s also true that not all men choose to actively contribute to the wealth of anti-trans activists, but Simon here is a voice actor in the re-release cash grab Harry Potter audiobooks.
No tall men
This was always s pet peeve of mine, if “all men” is an obvious simplification, why is that the people pointing that out are the stupid ones, and not the ones using an obviously weak argument?
Always seemed like self sabotage to me
Why is it an obvious simplification?
The post is complaining that the counter movement #notallmen is obviously right, and also that it’s a trite counter argument to what is assumedly (and commonly) a claim of “all men X”.
They are arguing that “All men X” should obviously not be taken as literally “all men”, but as a shorthand for “systemically enough men that the behaviour continues to exist so that almost 30% of men will do X at some point in their life”.
And that anyone saying “well, not all men” just isn’t listening.
