• chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent.

    Pretty ridiculously disingenuous and misleading to make this complaint when there are more white people on food stamps than black people.

    dignity of work

    What a joke

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      I have been a white man who needed assistance and turned to “welfare” to survive.

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        I as well, it was what opened my eyes in my 20’s that all the bullshit I was fed as a kid was in fact false.

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          It’s nice not needing the help anymore. Transitioning to being not broke wasn’t an easy or quick process, and I certainly couldn’t have done it all on my own, but it was worth it. I’m still a white guy though I try not to hold that against myself.

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      When looking at stats, you shouldn’t look at absolute numbers, you need to look at distribution too. According to google US is approximately 59% white, and 13% black, and food stamp numbers are 38% white and 25% black. So there does seem to be truth to if you are black you are more likely to be on food stamps.

      Systemic racism might play a factor here.

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        So there does seem to be truth to if you are black you are more likely to be on food stamps

        Sure but in context that should not matter at all if the question is what demographic is the appropriate choice to represent the typical US welfare recipient. In this case total numbers are more relevant than relative proportion, you’d want the median person.

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        More than 1/3 of just under 2/3 of the population vs 1/4 of slightly over 1/10 of the population.

        Rough estimates

        White on food stamps: 76.2 million

        Black on food stamps: 11.1 million

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          That’s my point though, those numbers are meaningless. What if I gave you these numbers:

          White not on food stamps: 122.6 million

          Black not on food stamps: 33.2 million

          There are zero valid conclusions to be drawn.

          Analyzing the actual numbers, it seems a random black person is 3x more likely to be on food stamps than a random white person in the US.

          (0.25/0.13) / (0.38/0.59) = 2.99

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            Also, if there are 100 evenly distributed welfare recipients in a room, and you pick one at random, it is more likely they will be white than black.

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        Systemic racism might play a factor here.

        Might? Centuries of being held down at every turn and prevented from accumulating generational wealth “might” be a factor in modern poverty?

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      “black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent.

      Pretty ridiculously disingenuous and misleading to make this complaint when there are more white people on food stamps than black people.

      That’s called statistics! Remember, there are 3 types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

      This is just another rebranding of the “13 50” bullshit in a different trenchcoat.

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    Right-wing pastor Joel Webbon was explicit: “Why pick a White man? You should make your message more believable by picking someone Black.”

    A lot of these guys are just completely mask-off these days.

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    Every one of those right wing complainers are among the worst people on earth.

    They never seem to complain about rich people who just live off investments and inherited wealth.

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    British right-wing commentator Charles Cornish-Dale, known online as “Raw Egg Nationalist.”

    Wtf why do raw-egg eating weirdos seperated by an entire ocean and half an America know, let alone have a take on political ads in Arkansas?

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      Because the bad guys, including the racists that supposedly hate each other’s races to death, all stick together in destroying us, while we fight amongst ourselves.

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      They want to sell the illusion that their racist welfare cuts are, in fact, colorblind, or at least to an outward audience. Even in cases when a certain welfare is more enjoyed by whites, such as disability in Hungary, as Fidesz made it harder to access to many disabled people, due to far-right bloggers between 2006-2010 told people, that “voivode and overweight Roma drug dealers” are pretending to be intellectually disabled and amputees, to get welfare money and disabled parking spots for their Mercedeses. Though some bloggers also went after neurodivergent people, and claimed they were pushed into intellectual labor, due to “DEI mandates” and the mothers of those people fucking the way to their children (yes, they plagiarized it from Forrest Gump, because fascists don’t have imagination, as seen by the sheer amount of AI slop they pump out).

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      Which always weirds me out. Like if i were a racist, i would obviously believe this is right and good. So why do racists pretend they are not? Why fo they were masks on tgeir rallies?

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      Right-Wingers Are Mad Anti-Welfare Ad Isn’t Racist Enough

      Sarah Huckabee Sanders has been attacked by her own party for depicting a lazy white guy named “Brad” in an ad about fraud

      By Nikki McCann Ramirez

      September 28, 2026

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      No racist Republican trope has survived the test of time quite like that of the “welfare queen.” The alleged indolent fraudster — usually depicted as a person of color — leeching off of government assistance programs at the taxpayer’s expense. Under Donald Trump, the accusation of widespread fraud by minorities and migrants has been used to justify brutal crackdowns on immigration, massive cuts to social safety net programs, and the forcing millions of Americans from basic health care access.

      While some Republicans would like to brag about their anti-fraud bonafides, their ideological allies are there to ensure they remember exactly who they’re supposed to be portraying as the problem.

      This week, Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, a Republican and former Trump press secretary, courted the outrage of her party when she released an ad touting a “welfare-to-work” requirement for government assistance recipients in her state. The problem? The welfare recipient depicted in the ad was a white, male, gamer — cheese balls and VR headset included —- named “Brad.”

      You pay taxes to cover welfare for people who just choose not to work. That’s why I launched a welfare-to-work requirement.

      If you’re young, healthy, and get government assistance, you should work, go to school, or volunteer. pic.twitter.com/M83nxNMdry

      — Sarah Huckabee Sanders (@SarahHuckabee) September 28, 2026

      Sean Davis, editor at the right-wing blog The Federalist, fumed that “our government has systematically discriminated against white men for decades now, and yet now has the audacity to dishonestly mock young white men as welfare queens.”

      “This is absolute dogshit messaging. Is that really the GOP’s position: that America’s insane welfare bill is a result of young white men,” complained British right-wing commentator Charles Cornish-Dale, known online as “Raw Egg Nationalist.”

      Right-wing pastor Joel Webbon was explicit: “Why pick a White man? You should make your message more believable by picking someone Black.”

      The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh, who exists almost entirely as a Twitter troll at this point, raged that “black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent. But of course Republicans don’t have the balls to do this ad with ‘Shaniqua’ as the villain.”

      Career conspiracy theorist Mike Cernovich quickly speculated that “republicans are running a demoralization campaign against white men. They don’t want them to vote in the midterms. This is sabotage at a level rarely seen.”

      A couple things here. Non-hispanic whites account for more than a third of the nation’s welfare and food assistance recipients. Women are more likely to seek assistance because they are also more likely to be responsible for children and household management. Most people who receive government assistance work in some form, or are full time caretakers. And besides, the image of the young, male couch potato wrongfully suckling off the federal teat has been a Republican boogyman for over a year now.

      “Able-bodied people, 35-year-olds sitting at home playing video games, they’re going to now have to go get a job,” Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) said in July of last year while defending widespread cuts to Medicaid forced through Congress by Republicans.

      House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) provided a similar defense of the bill. “If you clean [Medicaid] up and shore it up, you save a lot of money, and you return the dignity of work to young men who need to be out working instead of playing video games all day.”

      Those were, at the time, disingenuous attempts to justify cutting social safety programs for everyday Americans in order to pay for another round of Trump-sponsored taxations boons for the wealthy. It’s not enough for Republicans like Huckabee Sanders to raise the specter of welfare fraud. They must inject virulent racist tropes maligning people of color in order to comply with the orthodoxies of the Trumpian right.

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        LOL… able bodied 35 year olds. Not in this economy. Between lack of healthcare, body damage from work or enlistment, and a satiating diet of food “products” to constant stress from all the economic crashes and disasters that happened yeah… Go fuck-a-bee cunts. We all paid into these funds while these lazy fucks say $175,000 a year isn’t enough money for them to “work” a couple month year blowing smoke up everyone’s ass. That’s welfare fraud. Pay the leeches $7.25 an hour only for the hours they work. Filth.

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    As though half of all white people in Alabama aren’t on food stamps…

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    The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh, who exists almost entirely as a Twitter troll at this point, raged that “black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent. But of course Republicans don’t have the balls to do this ad with ‘Shaniqua’ as the villain.”

    Fucking idiot. There are ~4x the white people in the U.S. (>50%) compared to black people in the U.S. (<15%).

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    Right-wingers mad about this, left-wingers mad about that.

    Let’s all agree that’s the baseline, and not worth noting. This will save us all WEEKS over a lifetime.

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      I feel like left-wingers have legitimate concerns to be angry about: climate change, food scarcity, wealth inequality.

      Right-wingers have to make up (or misattribute) their grievances.

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      This is dangerous thinking and one of the very reasons conservatives do shit like this. They want people to ignore both sides, when in reality the left’s concerns are not only valid, they are in many cases literally existential.