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I swear every consumable good is like this. Can’t enjoy anything without some gambling and FOMO. Toys come in blind boxes now so you can’t just buy the ones you want, scalping, addiction mechanics in all the games.
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fuck scalpers but also fuck the pokemon company. they could kill the entire scalping parasite industry in an afternoon by introducing print-to-order or literally any other business model besides booster packs which have always been predatory bullshit.
I started playing pokemon recently. I bought a bunch of bulk cards online for cheap and got a friend to play with me. I dont care about none of that rare card bs.
The game itself is very affordable with the most playable cards getting multiple printings. That means most of the good stuff is never more than a few bucks for the base rarity of most playable cards. Competitive decks are around $30-50 and rarely reach $100 at most.
That’s kinda cool, maybe it’s helped by the fact that it’s targeted mainly towards kids, so it drops those prices. I don’t play any card games but I know that they’re silly expensive for what it is.
Wow it’s cheaper there. Here it reaches 100usd (converted)
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i thought we were against consumerism here
Some people aren’t interested in being ascetic monks and like having fun occasionally while the world falls apart
I feel like there are like a million other ways to have fun than purchase peak capitalism product. I get that we are all severely brainwashed by capitalism but I’m confident the same neural pathways that makes us enjoy lootbox / collecting mechanics can be achieved going to the beach and finding cool ass shit. Admittedly everyone else is consumerbrained so it’s probably harder to find people to share your findings with.
pretty wide gradient between fun for the sake of it and buying crap for the sake of it
One person’s fun is another person’s tedium
says dude whose username is literally a brand of dumb shit you can buy
Some of the art on these cards is really good
I agree that there is some great art, but you don’t need to buy the actual cards to geothermal art. Proxies are way better and you get more cards and more art.
geothermal art
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Very strange autocorrect from a typo. The first word was definitely “get” but I don’t know which other word was slurred together to get it corrected into that.
Should these artists work for free?
“Oh, so you hate waffles?” comment.
Huh?
Under communism, everyone is a slave except for me personally and I get everyone’s work. My name will be General Chairman Karl Stalin and doctors will be forced at gunpoint to apply bandages to me uncompensated when I get a papercut from leafing through the endless piles of Pokemon cards that artists and printers are forced to produce for my pleasure.
I suppose as it directly relates to the posted video that people can’t play The Card Game, as there’s folks who insist on flipping/scalping/whatevering as opposed to letting others who play the card game be able to own them or even just have an opportunity to pick up a box at a retail outlet somewhere. or actually collect the cards for the sake of collecting them versus hawking them later, etc. it’s not really dumb shit it’s just something you haven’t found the desire for. Shit happens.
I feel like you’re minimizing the whole disaster of using (wasting) a ton of oil to produce, package, ship, and distribute some ultimately meaningless consumerist slop cards. Idk I just don’t think I’ll be on my deathbed thinking “damn at least I got this cool shiny pikachu card”
eh, there’s a spectrum between game pieces with use-value and shit like funko pops. i’d say the inherent gambling of a card pack is a bigger social ill than the logistics
It would be better if the cards were made to order and you could pick out what you want.
But then how would the poor widdle corporation make profit?!? /s
I get it (I’ve never really played tcg type games though), it’s why I’ve been doing hobbies that have artistic value, I feel more proud of myself over just playing some video game or whatever.
I feel like a big appeal to collecting these is having a mini “art gallery” you can curate without being rich. Some people collect certain artists or art styles. This guy has some sick art:
That’s kinda cool too I guess
I imagine the exact same thing could likely be said about things you hold dear, so be careful where you toss stones.
I get you but I can’t help but feel like people are taking offense because there are a lot of pokemon fans on the site. If the target of discussion was something like landfill-destined plastic toys at Target I feel like nobody would bat an eye at my comment.
Just get a laser printer. Print the cards you need and stick them in a sleeve in the front of random cards.
The term you are looking for is ‘curating a collection’.
There’s also the fact that any hobby that involves buying anything at all has a niche community promoting buying the “best” and latest versions all the time and congratulating each other on doing that. A lot of people seem to spend more time doing that than actually doing the hobby.
This thread seems to be mostly about trading cards and collectibles, but it’s crazy how much its permeated all kinds of hobbies. I remember being a young person writing songs and playing music, and the primary motivation was “making it.” Making art and imagining myself being a famous artist, etc. Ironically, the point where I quit art school wasn’t long after realizing that the job was just kissing the ass of rich people to get them to buy stuff.
Now I’m a bit older, but it seems like I’ve gone too far in the other direction. My house is full of art that I can’t get the gumption to show, I just give it away for weddings/birthdays/Christmas/idk just coming over and acting like my art is good. I practice music a lot and play frequently but only play out very rarely when a couple of buddies find a show. I’ve been bringing my guitar places to plunk on but there’s not like a time or place or interest.
So you’re either doing stuff for money or for its own sake in isolation.
God yes!!! I tried for a bit to get a craft library going but i got snubbed out by some local queen bee type. It was a whole thing. (well at least assume that’s why they ghosted free help) but yeah there is so many crafts and hobbies I want to try but the start up costs just to see if it’s something i’m interested in, is such a fucker. Like, a kiln is a great example. Why the fuck is there not a community kiln??? just cause someone wants to do some pottery doesn’t mean a house should go out and buy a fucking kiln??? I could go on and on.
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I really like tcgs. I like to build decks and play the games. Even stuff like rare cards with limited availability. I truly hate scalping because of that. You’re supposed to come across a cool card in a game shop and save up $10 for it, not looking at $15,000 listing on eBay.
I think scalping cards came from streamers tbh. Once that took off as a streaming category, it just became gambling streams (I mean, it always was but you know what I mean) and the big streamers doing it were willing to shell out a lot of money to get packs with more expensive cards. So people started buying up every pack they could.
Not that I could afford it anyway, but at the end of August they are releasing a Project Hail Mary steelbook. It’s meant to be £39.99. However they are already all sold out at the official retailers, over a month before even being released, and scalpers are already selling them on ebay for over £100. These scalpers have many each. Why are they even allowed to buy multiple of a limited edition item that hasn’t even been released yet? Now the real fans can’t afford one. Capitalism just sucks.
