• Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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    Jesus christ with the gate keeping and purity testing… They are hurting the left, they are hurting us who try, and they hurt the Palestinian people.

    Wait until they discover a single thing they don’t like about Abdul.

  • BigBenis@lemmy.world
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    7 小时前

    If we weren’t stuck in this two party system, the Democratic party would have been made obsolete a long time ago.

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      6 小时前

      And the Republican party too tbh. Tea Party, Maga, centrist neolibs, whatever the Mormons are doing, those are all their own brand of conservative

  • Erna_muse@lemmy.zip
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    The lesser of two evils argument is platonic. So it’s older than Jesus and at the same time no one has come up with anything better.

    So to me people who abstain from voting are objectively wrong.

    • Terrorphin@thelemmy.club
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      7 小时前

      That is objectively wrong. It assumes that every election is independent - which they are not. The ‘lesser evil’ is to lock democrats out of power until they run non-genocidal candidates. The short term sucks, but in the long term it is much much better.

      • NeighboursNeverNeighbors@lemmy.ca
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        Sure, yeah. It’s a lesser evil to vote in a madman that kills countless people around the world, built literal concentration camps, threatens all of your allies, dismantles your intelligence networks, steals/defrauds billions out of the American people, and absolutely destroys your country’s foundations for generations to come. How silly of the rest of the world. We should have understood that it’s a lesser evil to vote in a man that randomly blows up boats of civilians, while funnelling the stolen wealth of his comrades in efforts to dismantle the democracies and destroy the economies of your greatest allies in order to subjugate them.

        SMH, some Americans are so bizarre and self-centered. There’s many of y’all that have brains, but people like you are no different than MAGA.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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        The short term sucks, but in the long term it is much much better.

        Do you mean by the short term sucks that

        • immigrants and US citizens are being murdered and tortured
        • children are being trafficked without consequences
        • we’re going to war
        • people are losing jobs fast and a great recession or depression is nigh
        • trump and his posse are stealing so much money and breaking so many laws that no one can keep track
        • he demolished a portion of our icon of america and wrecked the reflecting pool while trying to set up an emperor’s arch and ballroom that cost close to a billion dollars
        • he’s removing tons of people from medicare and medicaid that will kill people if it already hasn’t
        • he removed a lot of our environmental protections and is selling off our public lands to the highest bidder
        • he removed our health protections and now we’re seeing a massive push for pro plague diseases
        • he’s destroying some of our national cultural and historic monuments because he’s racist af
        • etc., etc.,

        To me, you’re saying an insane comment. This isn’t just a matter of sucking a little, people are dying, being tortured and are broke.

      • jumjummy@lemmy.world
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        You have it backwards. If the republicans had no chance of winning, then there can be a split within the Democrats.

        Absolute bullshit if you think the Republicans winning is “lesser of two evils” in any sane universe.

      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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        6 小时前

        Yeah there’s no effective agreeable way to protest a party you’re mostly aligned with in a two party state. They use your and their mutual “enemy” to hold your vote hostage.

        • Terrorphin@thelemmy.club
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          Yes - the democrats rely on the argument that since they are fractionally to the left of the republicans you have no where to go.

  • Folstar@lemmus.org
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    There is no evidence of a mass (or even mid) exodus of left voters in any recent elections. This narrative that has been crafted where Democrats blame the left for losing is societal cancer.

    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      The left vote is both an inconsequential amount of voters that the Democrats shouldn’t cater to at all while also being so large in size it’s entirely responsible for them not winning.

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        Really the problem is the Democrats haven’t gone far enough right. The Republican party in their rush into actual god emporer fascism has left an entire quadrant of racist right wing voters completely free for the picking! Suckers.

        I apologise for the dark satire. I do think a better world is possible. Sometimes it’s just harder to see than others.

  • BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca
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    11 小时前

    The left likes to pretend that only the right are easily manipulated but it’s pretty obvious that it impacts everyone regardless of beliefs, the packaging is just different. Not sure if there are easy solutions.

  • BigMacHole@thelemmy.club
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    12 小时前

    They LEFT the Democrats? What happened to Vote BLUE no Matter WHO!

    -People who said to vote INDEPENDENT when THEIR Blue lost the Primary!

  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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    I still contend these abandon people are complete and abject morons that deserve what they got with their absolutely asinine decision.

    Still glad they took their heads out of their asses and that the Democratic voters also took a bit of their heads out of their asses.

  • mlg@lemmy.world
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    I like how this comments section perfectly sums up the democratic party.

    Two denialists who think he’s fake and a copist about Harris’s loss

    • 5318008@lemmy.ml
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      Given the global response to the situation, I would bet they probably realize that you don’t think they’re significant.

      Then again, there’s a chance they’re just focusing on food and water and shelter and medicine and not-getting-blown-up… rather than worrying about the opinions of people who couldn’t even pretend to be significant.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    only because of the shutdown last year, most of the DNC made it clear they sided with israel, and by extension gop policies. if they resisted the shutdown longer the gop would suffer far more politically. the gop got everything they ever wanted from that deal.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    If you didn’t vote or voted for a candidate with no path to victory over Gaza/Palestine then you never cared that much about Gaza/Palestine.

    I promise you every Palestinian is very, very upset Donald Trump is running the show and slobbing on Netanyahu’s knob.

    • Andy@slrpnk.net
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      If you wish to share this or any other opinion expressed by an actual Palestinian or person who can speak to their opinion through first hand knowledge, please share.

      Otherwise, please recognize that they are not characters in a fictional story for you to write your own opinions onto. They are human beings desperately fighting to be heard and have their agency respected.

    • Terrorphin@thelemmy.club
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      This assumes that every election is independent - which they are not. The ‘lesser evil’ is to lock democrats out of power until they run non-genocidal candidates. The short term sucks, but in the long term it is much much better.

      • BillCheddar@lemmy.world
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        Again, one man’s “the short term sucks” is another man’s “and in that short term, my family was murdered by fascists”

        It’s easy to be flippant with someone else’s life.