Trump helps rich people. Establishment Dems are either owned by, or terrified of rich people.
That’s it. Simple.
hakeeem , schumer are wealthy asf from various industries that donated to him.
You know what the difference is between a million and a billion dollars? About a billion dollars. The kind of rich people I’m talking about make someone like Schumer look like an absolute peasant.
The duopoly of 2 pro-capitalist parties must end.
The United States effectively has a one-party system, the business party, with two factions, Republicans and Democrats.
- Noam Chomsky
Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!
- Julius Nyerere (first Prime Minister and President of Tanzania)
I think Americans are good, but America will be taken over and destroyed from the inside by the Zionist lobby. The Americans do not see this. They are getting decadent. Zionists will use this to destroy them.
- Muammar al-Gaddafi
During the general election: Easy there friend, I agree with you but now is not the time. Do party building during midterms.
During midterms: Oh this is the time for a united front. Simply promote third parties between elections.
Between elections: You’re taking momentum away from smaller local challengers right now.
In what ways has the united states shifted right over the last 20 years? Tbh I’ve never understood this narrative. To me it’s very very obvious that the united states has shifted left steadily for my whole life. Short term there have been rightward shifts, but the overall trend is definitely left.
It is very common for privileged liberals to barely notice the rise of fascism. This has been the problem for quite a while.
How many changes over the last 20 years have:-
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increased social spending
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reduced wealth inequality
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favored consumers over corporations
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improved environmental protections
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reduced health care costs
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reduced authoritarian power
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You probably live in a blue area. (Most people live in a blue area.) The actual situation is that we’ve polarized. People around you, in the blue area, have moved left. People elsewhere, in the red areas, have moved right.
Pew Research for some graphics.
In certain ways, this has been a victory for civil liberties. Gay people from small towns can move to a place where they might have entire neighborhoods of likeminded people. Trans people from small towns can move to a place where they won’t be shot on sight. Hell, someone in NYC who suddenly finds Jesus can go to a smaller town where no one will make fun of them for proselytizing AND they can hang out with likeminded people AND they get cheaper rent.
But it’s also more dangerous than it has ever been to be an immigrant. Wealth inequality has been rising. Increases in wages has been vastly outpaced by increases in the cost of housing and healthcare, and combined with inflation, we’re making more units of USD, sure, but we aren’t able to sustain any better a quality of life. Corporate Taxes were increased for small companies, and cut for large companies.
Depending on whether you’re more focused on the kinds of people living around you, or on the wide-reaching systemic changes that have been taking place, you’re going to notice different things. The really really important stuff that has shifted to the right is kind of boring, so you wouldn’t have seen much reporting on it.
The ratchet effect exists because leftists would rather bitch every general election and allow Republicans to be elected, while simultaneously not participating in the primaries.
The fascists knew the primaries were the secret, and their voters are generally loyal in November. Every member of the GOP that opposes Trump is removed in the primaries, and the party moves further right.
The ratchet effect works because vast swathes of people can’t perceive of any way to affect change beyond voting, thus creating a single (recurring) major choke point for going through the ‘correct’ channels.
If all you do is vote, you can’t complain.
Vast swathes of people don’t vote though.
That’s fine, there are a great deal of more impactful and meaningful things that people can do instead of voting. My point is that if someone’s sole contribution is voting, they haven’t actually done anything.
The problem is there is no actual choice for progressive leftism on offer. This is the whole issue. The Dems are just Capitalism with cute decorations vs the depraved capitalism of Republicans. If there were actual parties that outside this framework, they can be very successful. That’s why DSA is winning. They are at least acting like another option, whether or not they will significantly change things is to be seen, but they are not centrists like most Dems try to be.
The PSL is on the right track. A disciplined socialist party will get the power to change things, or be an object lesson in the necessity of revolutionary organizing to use other means of change.
Are there any statistics about people who complain about nominees not participating in primaries?
No, but ShitLibs operate on vibes and not facts anyway. If they operated on facts, they’d notice their party has done nothing but help push the Overton Window right for damn near half a century now.
Obamacare was copied directly from the Republicans, originally called Romneycare. The chance for M4A was completely squandered by the Dems at the time. Have some damn object permance like an actual adult.
Obamacare was broken because the Dems had a filibuster-proof majority in the senate for like 1 month at in the 2009 holidays. By the time Al Franken got to take his seat, Kennedy had stopped showing up for work, then he died, then it took time to seat his temporary replacement, then the Tea Party win their special election.
With that, the broken Senate version that was meant to be reconciled with the House version and cleaned up couldn’t happen, so the House had to pass the Senate version verbatim to avoid a filibuster by the Dems.
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Increasingly more popular opinion: the US government takeover committed by the Trump oligarchy is as much the result of incompetence of the Democratic party as it was a plan of evil ‘geniuses’.
I’d say it’s entirely dems fault as they were dropping the ball consistently since years. Trump should’ve been an easy opponent but he ended up as president second time
People wanted change. Trump promised change, the democrats promised more of the same.
Maybe democrats should promise change?
I think the detrimental part was avoiding any polarising subject that could alienate their core electorate. They wanted to retain it so much that they forgot about the general population. And then came Trump promising changes in areas general public had problems with. He was mostly lying, but he was lying about the right topics.
So it came down to the choice: Maybe a lying republican jackass, or total democrat apathy.
Yes! IMO the ‘evil geniuses’ had no effect whatsoever. Trump just wins by default when the Democrats run unpopular candidates.
I’ve been saying this for almost ten years now. Trump is not a popular candidate and never has been. In '16 he got fewer votes than Romney did in '12. If everyone who voted for Obama had voted for Clinton, Trump never would have won. The same is true with '20 vs. '24: if everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, Trump never would have won the second time.
I also don’t think Biden was ever that popular; I think any of the Democratic candidates would have won in 2020. I told anyone who would listen at the time, “Biden is a bad choice, some shit could heat up in Israel, and he’s very out of touch with the Democratic base on that issue, and it could prevent him from getting re-elected.” I will say, I didn’t think Trump would get re-elected after J6, I thought it would be some other Republican. But, it also felt like the Democrats also never really went after Trump for what he did on J6 so.
Anyway, I guess what I’m saying is I agree and I’m glad to hear other people say it. The Democrats are too willing to compromise with Republicans who never compromise with them, and it keeps losing them elections. So even though Americans as we actually exist are reasonably progressive on most issues (legalizing weed and having universal healthcare poll higher than any sitting politician, there are about 1.5x as many registered Dems as Reps in this country, etc), we’re stuck with an extremely regressive government. That’s the context that leads to progressives like Mamdani winning in “upset” victories and the Democratic leadership is all surprised.
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My opinion on that is totally relevant to my opinion on this. /s
Next time we disagree, please bring a valid argument instead to discrediting because of something i said somewhere else.
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Yeah. There was this drunk driver that hit a kid. Stupid parents. It’s just the result of incompetence of the parenting party than a result of drunk driving.
They lost to Donald fucking Trump. The biggest loser of all time. And they lost twice.
Yeah. Except the parents insisted their child play in the middle of the street at 1am and instead of condemning the drunk driver, they claim drunk driving is part of life
I dont think that is a fair comparison. Also i am not saying it is only the fault of the opposing party, i’m saying it is as much as. It is naive to think this would have been able no matter what the Democratic party did in the years/decades leading up to the first Trump presidency. Sure it is easy to talk in hindsight, I’ll give them that. I’m also not saying they wanted this to happen. But if the parents of the drunk driver never gave their child a good talk on the dangers of drinking, that accident is partly theirs to blame too.
They are complicit controlled opposition. Their only job is to keep the left out of power. That’s why they’re more upset about socialists than Trump, ultimately Trump is on their side and the socialists are not.
I begged my congressman to support articles of impeachment. His response was basically that they don’t have the votes, so why bother? He even said that if they did, it would be performative and would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.
So that’s where we are now. The only people with the political power to oust a tyrant have thrown in the towel.
I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don’t have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!
But no, I guess re-election to Congress is more important.
Fucking joke.
I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don’t have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!
100% agree. Performative it may be, but doing it every single time he does something to warrant it, which is daily at this point, at least sends a message that this shit is unacceptable. Doing nothing is tacitly agreeing with it. It’s baffling.
would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.
The whole fucking point of him doing the persecution rhetoric is to stop people attacking him, and they’ve played right into his hands.
And look at the vote for releasing the Epstein files! Obviously, they ‘didn’t have the votes’ for that, either … but once they tried, even a bunch of Republicans were on board.
At least fucking try.
PersecuteProsecute the motherfucker!FTFY. It’s only “persecute” if it’s unjust.
It’s why democrats lose as much as they do, they don’t seize opportunities
a bunch of them are DINOs so i wouldnt call them capable of seizing, they secretely want this to happen, the tax cuts from 2017, no dems tried repeal that at all, or made it thier promise. they benefit from it.
This kind of Dem is such a fucking pussy. Literally more worried about offending constiutents who would never vote for them in the first place.
So that’s where we are now. The only people with the political power to oust a tyrant have thrown in the towel.
If only we lived in a democracy and could give people power with our vote…
you did? this is what you voted for?
it’s almost like a two party system was a bad idea
It’s not a two-party system. It’s a one-party system disguised as a two-party system.
It’s not the Democrats vs the Republicans
It’s the oligarchs vs the people.
The democratic party is overflowing with oligarch sychophants.
Congress is full of people who will talk about progressive points, then vote the other way.
why no one create a third one? is it blocked somehow?
Winner‑take‑all voting: whoever gets the most votes wins the entire seat. This strongly pushes voters toward two large parties because voting for a third party risks “splitting the vote.
Ballot access laws: Each state sets its own rules for getting on the ballot. Many require tens of thousands of signatures, strict deadlines, or high fees. Major parties get automatic ballot access; third parties must constantly re‑qualify.
Debate exclusion: The Commission on Presidential Debates requires a candidate to poll at 15% nationally to appear on the stage. No modern third‑party candidate has reached that threshold, so they never get mass exposure.
Campaign financing laws: Public funding rules require a party to have earned at least 5% of the vote in the previous election. Without that, they get no federal funding. Major parties have massive donor networks and PAC ecosystems.
Democrats and Republicans control state election boards, local party organizations, volunteer networks, and voter‑data operations. Third parties lack the institutional machinery needed to compete.
Strategic voting psychology: Even voters who like third‑party candidates often vote major‑party to prevent the “greater evil.” This self‑reinforcing cycle keeps third parties small.
Media coverage patterns: News outlets are all owned by the two‑parties. Polling firms often exclude third‑party candidates from surveys, which then justifies excluding them from coverage.
State-level laws Some states have “sore loser” laws, fusion‑voting bans, or rules that make it nearly impossible for third parties to maintain ballot status.
The system is designed to keep third parties at arm’s length.
Almost? Politics isn’t a sporting event. Seeing them turn everything into black or white is so close minded. Most things have many shades of grey. We should have that many candidates to choose from.
i should’ve added an /s
It’s a consequence of our voting system.
If two parties that have similar ideals (call it A1 and A2) enter an election with another opposing party (call it B1), benefits the opponent, because people who agree with either A1 or A2 can only vote for one.
You can end up in a position where 30% of people vote for A1, 30% for A2, and 40% for B1. Because A1 and A2 were so similar, neither of them can achieve plurality, despite their message itself being more popular, and the race goes to B1.
Btw, back in 2000, the Green party got enough votes in Florida that, had they instead voted for Gore, the whole “chad” debacle would’ve been a non-issue. I guess Gore wasn’t environmentalist enough for them. Bush/Cheney ended up winning…and they certainly were not environmentalist in the least.
I credit this for being the historical turning point where everything really started going to shit. Bush v Gore and the chads. And thus, to this day, I’m a tree-hugging hippy who will gladly say: fuck the green party.
…To take it a step further, in order to attract centrist or opponent voters, the party has to be moderate/centrist. It cannot be exceedingly progressive, or it will lose its more moderate members.
In essence, the voting system causes two party systems, and the “big tent” party causes the big tent to suck and always move opposite the driection it really should.
OR a uniparty/coalition. its 2 right wing parties, 1less than the other joining forces. the less right wing from time to time is allowed to win, throw in some “progress” but not enough to change things dramatically. Also they depend on the right wing for survival as much as the alt-right depend on the dems for survival. its a codependancy.
Because they are, for the most part, wealth class. Average citizen getting robbed or screwed over isn’t a concern.
Why rock the boat and risk getting noticed in a negative way when you can do nothing and enjoy your privileged place!
Democrats are controlled opposition, and have been for a long time.
The Dems exist to prevent the rightward slide from ever shifting back. That is why they fight harder against progressives than Republicans.
Exactly. They are being quiet because they are being told to do so.
they saw what happen with zohran, and they tried railing on El-sayad, with islamaphobic inneundos.
I want to preface this by saying that I think the democrats have no fucking idea how to do messaging and opposition.
But even if they did, we live in a system that wants their message to be ignored. Anything a politician says that is bad for business will not be televised. Or twisted to make them sound crazy. They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.
I used to work in politics, it is next to impossible to get your message out if people with money don’t want your message heard. The most important messaging is free media, as in the news and social media. Both of those have heavy corporate backing trying to control the narrative. Even the most progressive DSA politician has a hell of a time getting their real message through a controlled information stream.
The Dumbocrats are perpetual failures mixed in with some dino’s but the media is a bigger issue, imo.
They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.
This is the biggest problem. And it’s not just legacy media, but also modern media. Zuck, Musk, and fucking Spez control basically all the social media that isn’t the fediverse. All fascists or fascist-wannabes.
It’s always funny to see DSA types coopt Trump language.
You’ll have to expand on that thought because I don’t know what you’re getting at. People have been angry at the media long before trump, its trump that coopted it to get votes.
I have to explain why Dumbocrats is Trump speak?
I don’t make a point of explaining things that are obvious.
The democratic elite are in bed with Epstein
but but but… the lesser of two evilss!!
The Democrats and Republicans are owned and controlled by the same wealthy douchebags.
With a high degree of overlap to the Epstein client list.
They’re doing exactly the job they’re being paid for.
the DINO party serves the billionaires, and israel mostly.
Until the genocide, everyone served Israel.
I stand by my observation Israel is not a Jewish nation, it’s a owner-class nation.
Israel is a terrorist state and the fact they call themselves Jewish is antisemitism… They kill Muslims is also antisemitism.
I’m an Australian and I hate every religion!
Israel calling itself Jewish on its own is not anti-semitic, the doing things that makes everybody hate them while calling themselves Jewish is what makes it anti-semitic.
The corporate Democrats don’t want to piss off their owners
Instead of attacking? Are you cowboys ok? Apparently you still don’t understand shit if this is the trash that gets posted. Wake. The. Fuck. Up.
You live in a violent dictatorship, there is no voting system you fucking dipshits.
Yeah ikr.
Trump is depriving people from affordable healthcare, living environments, food storage, equal rights, sterile air quality .etc, and he’s pretty much the ambassador of the many despicably graphic human trafficking ring formed by Epstein that his posse is going out of their way to shun from the public eye.
But oh no! Zohran is chilling with furries!!! WHAT A FREAK!!! WORSE THAN A CHILD RAPIST WHO ALSO TARIFFED COUNTRIES DURING WILDFIRES AND BLACKMAIL IRAN AFTER DROPPING COGNITIVE NUKES ON THEM!!!
I suffer heavily from learning difficulties, and even I know Republicans are completely inhuman warmongeries!
I’m mostly bothered by OOP tweet. Evan here is cosplaying Dora the explorer. Like, really Evan, you don’t have any fucking clue why?
I can’t believe this post is one of the top ones. What fkn discussion can we start from here?
Just say you despise Americans and stop pretending to want better for them
Yes I do from the bottom of my heart, especially because my country is a US colony. Am I not allowed to hate burgerman?
If we didn’t despise you before, we do now.
Trust me no one missed that. Bigots can get fucked.
American education system at work of you think that’s what a bigot is.
“I can’t believe you hate us for making the planet inhospitable and starting countless illegal wars of aggression over the past 80 years and genociding multiple peoples in multiple countries and couping socialist projects and installing fascist dictators and… You guys are just bigoted!! 😤”
Fuck off, lmao.
Yeah every single American, even those who’ve put in effort trying to push back at fascism, is at fault for wars caused decades before they were even born.
You’re bigoted.
Where’s the effort, lmao?
I don’t see any striking, rioting or vigilantism.
I’m bigoted against the country who’s threatening to invade my country and who continues to spread terror around the globe?
Fuck off too, lmao.
Bigots love to justify their reasoning. Yes, you’re bigoted, and I’d tell you the same for generalizing everyone in any country as such. Want to go do some “pattern recognition” too while you’re at it?
Death to America.
