Aaron Swartz is smiling.
reddit refuses visitors without a login
“Our numbers are dropping!”
They lost me when they started charging for their api. It pushed out so many good apps. It was shitty.
Reddit did everything in its power to get rid of the users that made the platform what it is. Or rather, what it once was. It’s barely a shell of the former glory days.
And if you get rid of your power users who make good content and good comments, well, this is what happens.
i’m only here cos reddit sucks donkey dick now. I think they just sold out and in turn have lost support. I went there for the news, before it broke else where. Now I never get breaking news and 80% of the posts I see feel like they are for teenagers. For Profit Pigs
More people need to learn that there are federated alternatives to speed up their downfall.
Wait till google decides to de-rank them for being login-walled. All those search results they’re using as leverage.
Good! Reddit is a cesspool anyway.
CEO Steve Huffman said, “These deals aren’t binary. They have to make sense for Reddit, but there are many ways, I think, for the value to return to Reddit.”
lol - “The value has left Reddit”
-/u/spezWho could imagine when you piss off:
- third party devs who make the apps your best contributers use
- your unpaid content creators
- your unpaid moderators
…that the “value” would leave 🤣
Yep, it was the API thing that finally did it for me, but looking back, I should have seen it coming after all of the other stuff.
Third party apps made Reddit a dream on mobile, a big part of its success were the passionate people. And they showed us all the middle finger
and now its filled with prop bots, bots/spammers(for thier own sitess) and AI reposting bots.
For me it was the way they treated the Apollo developer Christian Selig leading up to the whole API thing. Absolutely heinous.
Same. Although I’m reading this on Voyager, which has borrowed heavily from Apollo
Gonna tell my kids this app is Apollo and pour one out for those that didn’t make it.
Remember when YouTube started having AI narrated posts from r/askreddit in its shorts? And how that slowly morphed into the AI generated slop stories about how one family member give the rest of them their comeuppance because the Henderson account valued results instead of random cheap business practices involving Sgt Menendez and his cheating ex girlfriend?
(This stuff is like candy to Boomers because it mirrors the reader write in sections of Reader’s Digest.)
I should have noticed this earlier, but it dawned on me a few weeks back.
Caught my father in law who’s addicted to youtube watching a video about some WWII pilot knew how to shoot at enemy fighters from his time hunting hogs in Kansas. It was entirely AI generated, the video, the voice, and the narrative. That person didn’t exist and it didn’t survive scrutiny if you know anything about guns. But damn the comments were just boomers gooning over military wank.
the comments were likely Ai generated bots too.
I never did like the “bullseye womprat” logic.
For me, I already disliked reddit and just needed to know that this place existed
I use sync for Lemmy and its elite. I can’t fathom using the piece of shit reddit app.
Yeah it was my reddit client until the API then the dev pivoted to Lemmy and I just picked it right up again
lemmy has been talking about this for like 3 years now. you people have nothing new to say 😅️
Reddit never was the same after the whole API/Mod fiasco. Many subreddits simpy died. Old users that made the site what it is left and there were new ones, but the whole vibe shifted.
it wasnt the same when they used the banhammer on “illicit subs” during trumps first turn, every sub just had political elements in after that, and that was the same time russia started thier trolling, and the bannings began then.
The vibe is still similar in some places. I get a lot out of lurking on some of the trans subreddits for instance. But yeah, anything outside of small niche communities has been enshittified into another Instagram.
I actually got an award as being in the top 1% of reddit karma earners for 2022.
In 2023 they banned me because I didn’t buy stock when it was being introduced.
You’d think they’d want me there. Creating content. For free. I’m sure they thought I’d just create a new account. Nope. I just came here.
Weird thing is, I’ve had two main running jokes for years. One is being obsessed with corn. The other is calling George Clooney a smug bastard.
2023 they banned me because I didn’t buy stock when it was being introduced.
I had several mod accounts (smaller subs - I made new accounts for each one) and didn’t buy any stock. Wasn’t banned. Did they explicitly say this to you?
George Clooney really is a smug bastard.
I was also invited to participate in the IPO (in 2024) due to my “top tier” karma.
Didn’t get a ban for not participating but wouldn’t have given a shit if I did.
OH NO! CAN’T CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT!!! ThAt’S bAn EvAsIoN!!! (autistic screeching ensues accompanied by excessive farting noises)
Revenue of $804.9 million beat estimates of $731.8 million. However, US daily active users came in at 53.2 million, just shy of expectations of 54 million. The company’s total daily active users grew by 18% to 130.3 million versus estimates of 130.07 million.
reddit is fine
Firing Victoria was the beginning of the end.
It really was. Everyone was stunned when it happened. I hope she’s someplace good now.
And continuously piss off 99.9% of your uses
I want that sticker!
Thanks!!
…wait its gone :( darn.
Sorry, was in a hurry to GTFO of work when I posted, but yes, it was a limited run on etsy. I’d reach out to the maker and ask for them to do another run though.
Have an awesome weekend!
Its all good, its great it exists. You too!
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Can we send him pizza?
Beans, maybe?
What a galatically stupid asshole.
Out of all instances to put on a sticker… that’s not a good choice. Fuck lemmy.world.
what’s the problem with lemmy.world?
Why are you here?
He’s not there, he’s clearly on a different instance. The hell you on about.
He sees the content and interacts with it on his own instance so he is not in fact “here”. Unless you are trying to somehow claim ownership of this community because it’s hosted on the lemmy.world instance.
🤡
I don’t browse Reddit since I switched entirely to Lemmy the day the API migration happened, but I did still reluctantly have to reference reddit on occasion. Now I can’t even do that for niche issues I run into. I am so upset that millions of people donated their time and energy into making Reddit the place it was just to have all of that entirely gated off. I know we’re likely all in the same boat, but there really are no words for what spez did. He ruined a really great place for community and knowledge and turned it into a slop fest.
but there really are no words for what spez did.
Profited. That’s the word.
Enshittified is more specific.
I learned that lesson with experts-exchange even before stack overflow. All sites will be bought out and enshittified.
Good ole Expert Sex Change. I haven’t thought about that site in years.
There are reddit front ends you can access. Won’t let you actually participate, but if you just need to access a page for info, they work.
My usecase is this: To see what both they, the people in power want us to see, and to see what users say in reaction to it. I see a lot of luigiposting on the comments, a lot of pro-socialism, a lot of pissed off reactions to bad corpodem takes, and I see way, far less pro-Trump or even middling takes on the front page, at least. I’m sure there are still righty/tankie subs, but it ain’t 2024 anymore.
You guys scarecly change your opinions, most of us are leftists, were when we got here and if we werent, we are now, in some shade at least. Reddit goes in flux a lot and seeing how much bluer their community is than 2024 does make me grin a little.
Let’s mods indiscriminately block users for arbitrary reasons; why do we keep losing users??
“please install our app to continue”
Scumbag Steve Huffman
If i cared more, I would make a scumbag spez
Is this a real thing? I can still access both new and old reddit via both mobile and desktop without being logged in. FWIW, I’m hitting it with Firefox + uBlock Origin on both.
People have been reporting it quite a bit. If i were to guess A/B testing.
It depends on your location and who you are.
A while back, I did an experiment. Reddit started asking me to log in to scroll, so I closed the window and didn’t try again that day. Next day, I tried to scroll reddit and the login to view popup appeared again. So I closed the window and didn’t look at reddit for a week. After a week, I went on reddit and magically it no longer worried about me logging in…for about a month.
They do A/B testing where they put one feature in front of some folks and a different feature in front of others so they can gather data about what people will and won’t tolerate. Between that and the massive tracking they do with IP addresses for people going around account bans, and there’s no real way to know if they were targeting you through cookies/IP, or if you just fell into different groups.
I don’t think they put a lot of thought into what’ll that do for some of the subreddits that are for desperate people looking for advice since two people back to back won’t get the same advice. There’s no way to swap notes, no reddit-of-record, and now all that good advice (and some of it was good) is locked away. It warms my cold dead heart to see their stock tank because they don’t deserve the best of their users.
Essentially yes, my thinking was simply that it’s A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H…etc testing.
I had reddit accounts in the past, though I deleted them all and stopped participating about 2-3 years ago. My assumption is that my passive scrolling was connected to previous accounts through IP, device ID, proximity to other devices, other accounts, typing cadence, etc., and I fell in the category of “maybe we can entice them back”.
I also agree that reddit likely made the decision to sacrifice a lot of high quality low engagement content for the purposes of mass market engagement farming. It’s sad as shit. I’ve got copies of wikipedia from back in the day, but I never thought to download reddit.
Edit: Uhh, maybe there should be a group doing annual backups of lemmy. It’s a nice place now, but so was reddit.
Edit: Uhh, maybe there should be a group doing annual backups of lemmy.
I’m sure there are a bunch of people who are a lot more knowledgeable about it, but it might be as simple firing up your own instances and just federating. By not allowing people to post you’d just be in readonly mode and would get passed all the posts, maybe. With every other kind of archive process like this the images/videos/audio are the long pole. A full 100% backup of “what did everyone see back then” is out of reach; even youtube (or especially youtube) goes back and edits old videos for newer compression or a change in copyright rules.
My only real thought on it right now is an annual back up is waaaaaay too slow. I’d want to see more about what the ActivityPub stream looks like. I’d want to hear from an owner of an instance about how quickly their storage requirements go, and I’m now curious about whether there’s any evidence of anyone else such as Three Letter Agencies already backing it all up.
uhh, relevant username?
I would assume that the entirety of lemmy is being scraped by three letter agencies and their global equivalents. Hell, I assume that a small core minority of the tankies are actually state actors pushing statist propaganda, as lemmy does skew pretty left.
OK, I’m curious first about the data requirements.
If people are posting just to stir up shit then that would be something that would have to be handled at the community level or at the individual level. If we don’t agree with someone’s opinion then just ignore that person. If people are coming around trying to stir up violence that’s a different story. The bar is lower than ever for firing up a lemmy instance if people are into that kind of thing.
Link to the nazi bar story. If anyone has a better place to link to please let me know:
Who knows. I’m just curious about the data storage requirements.
Its been hitting me. Can’t use old.reddit without logging in and new reddit is an abomination.
I’ve stopped using it like this. Just annoying. At least lemmy has good clients
I can scroll comments for about a minute before that pop-up comes up saying you need the app. But I rarely visit reddit anymore unless it’s something I need some information on that I can’t find anywhere else.
I had that for a while. Then yesterday I got a lockout message.
I get blocked now in a regular browser, but not in an anonymous browser.
Try deleting storage for all Reddit domains, that fixes it for a bit.
For real, this recent change sucks ass
So many comments in here, I haven’t read them all. I have some conjecture.
First, the AI scrapers already have Reddit’s most valuable content … their “virgin” data from the pre-LLM years. All new content is worth substantially less and much harder to differentiate / filter between bots/AI and real human interaction done without AI.
Second, the search engines that used to help drive users to Reddit mostly all have AI summaries / AI answers right there on the main search page these days. A lot of people read those AI results, get what they want right from Google (or otherwise), and never click any links over to Reddit.
Third, Reddit has expanded into other regions besides the western / us-centric world, such as India. The simplest way to put this is that the content and users from those regions costs Reddit US users and by extension advertising dollars.
Fourth, the corporate team’s decision making is bad enough to be harmful / fatal in and of itself. It’s sheer luck they’ve done as well as they have this long. Corporate is not only the worst enemy of users and communities, they’re also their own worst enemy. It’s so bad that if one of them was a competitor or adversary that had infiltrated the company in a covert operation to destroy it or gum it up, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
I did not know what Lemmy was a couple weeks ago. Reddit pushed me out. I don’t want to be logged in or have an account with the way they harvest data. I got tired of weekly rotating ublock origin scripts and using incognito mode. You don’t want me if I’m not a willing data whore? Fine, I’m gone! I am now actively trying to NOT even look at reddit when a random Google search sends me there!
This is what happens when you IP ban anybody who uses VPN, or blinks wrong. Fuck Reddit
Well there’s always Quora.
