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      “Responsible physical sourcing is not book burning,” ISBNdb’s site in a section about why it’s crucial to recycle the destroyed books. “It is the completion of a book’s lifecycle: from tree to knowledge to tree again."

      “My statements on book burning answer questions about the statements on book burning.”

      I mean, I get why books are being destroyed (the spines are cut open as part of the scanning process and it’s too expensive to put them back together at scale/copyright issues), but it’s as the headline says. Not exactly something that generates sympathy. Another problem is they’re all doing it and not sharing the results. Even if they make some godly AI supercomputer, thousands of other companies were doing the same thing on failed projects, destroying millions of books for nothing.

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      Sadly :( and even our comrades will cheer it on, they think AI is an amazing way of preserving knowledge and the costs are worth it… I am forever techno-negative after this era and seeing the response communists have to it.

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        preserving knowledge

        the books are the knowledge even scans would be better than an AI model. this argument is asinine and they ought to know it.

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            tbf this an american industrial practise. the chinese denying the americans a monopoly is relative relief, but otherwise yeh. i’d like to go on, bear in mind though the moment we start talking about our community in the third person it creates the cracks that the enemy likes to squeeze open. just look at db0.

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              I agree, that’s why I try to say comrades and not cause a split by othering people, there’s a very bad tension but that’ll be a problem under class society always so only answer is solidarity in each other’s problems, which is why I become sad when I see comrades mocking anti data center protests and struggles of people in whose communities data centers pop up.

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    The blue print for uploading your consciousness.

    Some IA company is gonna claim it can make you immortal by scanning and uploading your mind.

    Your brain will be fried, your drained physical form will be disposed of, and your family will be provided with a chatbot trained on your text history as proof of immortality.

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    A lot of this is copyright law problems. The digital scans of all these books should be made publicly available even if most are useless like guides to windows 2000

    Just from a pure “make the models better” standpoint it makes more sense to centralize and distribute the data gained widely here. China does that btw.

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    They are destroying the used book stores entire industry, since these rely on books being sold and re-sold. They destroy them because of a loophole in copyright law. Since the original is destroyed, there’s no “copy”. Just one book that’s first on a stable medium, able to last decades, than on a very volatile medium, that will last ten years max (and will probably be deleted earlier, after used for training or when this company gets sold/bankrupt at the latest).

    Look at the sheer scale of these operations:

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    I just heard that 2nd hand books are getting more expensive where I live and those free book cabinets you find on the streets are getting emptied by people who want to sell the books. I wonder if it’s related

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    “Responsible physical sourcing is not book burning,” ISBNdb’s site in a section about why it’s crucial to recycle the destroyed books. “It is the completion of a book’s lifecycle: from tree to knowledge to tree again."

    they’re… making trees out of recycled paper? 🤔