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      I will say, I’ve discovered more music from small artists through recommendation algorithms than I otherwise would have, by a large amount. It’s one of the few areas where I’m fine with algorithmic recommendations, cause it’s not really trying to push me down a political rabbit hole to change who I am.

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      I just moved to qobuz and although it’s missing some releases, the discovery is leagues beyond what Spotify has become.

      I’ve found more new bands to follow in the past 3 months than in the prior 4 years of Spotify.

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    Same, the pricing and experience was similar but ad free YouTube was enough of an incentive to get me to swap

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      “ad-free youtube”

      Weird, my YouTube is always ad free, and I can skip sponsored content. Without paying a cent.

      Ad blockers and sponsor block for desktop, and a revanced modified version of the youtube app and I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in several years.

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        Sure, I do this too, as well as pay for YouTube Premium, bc some of that goes back to the creators I watch every day 🤷‍♀️

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          It’s ublock origin + patreon for me, no doubt a much larger % goes to the creator that way

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          The ones that are worth it and need support have their own ways to donate money to them, usually through a patron-like service.

          $1/mo directly does a lot more than paying a company that is actively working on a late stage capitalism surveillance state.

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            Sure, but I don’t have endless cash to subscribe to everyone’s patreons, etc. So I go this way, or, I just don’t contribute at all, because it’s financially not feasible for me to do that.

        • I’d rather give money more directly to content creators that deserve it. If they actually care, they’ll have ways to do so. I support a few on patreon or similar service for about $5/mo and that goes a lot further than handing youtube the money. Honestly at this point, “supporting creators” is just an excuse.

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      That was my thought before I stopped giving money to American companies. Another huge perk was the ability to add YouTube videos to music playlists for those odd songs that were never officially published.

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        A program like Musify scrapes the audio from YouTube videos. Lets you enjoy the music and availability without paying Googles

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      I use an alternate frontend to YouTube - PipePipe, and I see no ads and can listen to the audio with my phone locked.

      I also use a FOSS music app called Musify that scrapes the audio off of YouTube videos. I can download the audio too.

      Point is, don’t give Google money if you don’t have to!

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      I’ve discovered so many artists because of Spotify, I need to give it credit where it’s due. And I have bought concert tickets and physical and digital media of artists that I have discovered solely because of Spotify. It is far from perfect, but there’s been an upside to my use.

      So I do both, but I love finding new music.

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      If it’s just a matter of data usage, YT premium caches music and I set the quality lower when streaming on mobile, so it uses a negligible amount of data for me.

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        It’s a matter of “my cell phone is only connected to the internet when I’m at home or at work” + being free to move the files around without accounts or internet

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      There’s dozens of us! Dozens!

      But frfr, I’m always surprised when I open it and it’s still going. Feels more like they are being funded by a few eccentric billionaires than anything else these days.

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        They get my $15/month.

        I’m surprised they haven’t been acquired for their algorithm (which one think is better than Spotify).

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      If I ever want anyone to know I’m old, I either tell them about the snowstorm of '32 or that I use Pandora. Still got all my stations from college!

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    I’ll be laughing at both of you from my 300gb mp3 collection when the internet goes down

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      It’s somewhat there, I guess.

      I’m on Navidrome for music, and use AudioMuse and its Navidrome plugin for (as far as I can tell) Sonic Analysis like functionality.

      AudioMuse should be available for Jellyfin as well.

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        I might just be missing something, but I haven’t figured out how to make a playlist on the fly with audiomuse in symphonium. Just a playlist at my audiomuse IP. Which is something, but not accessible enough for me to actively use it. I assume and hope I’m just missing something

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    I’ve been wanting to switch off of spotify, but ive already collected all the songs i like and built all my playlists there. Is there a program or something that can easily scrape my spotify profile and make a list of all my songs and playlists?

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      Qobuz streaming literally includes this service as the first step after signing up for a free trial. It copies all of your Spotify playlists and collections and creates exact replicates in Qobuz to use immediately. Worked flawlessly for me.

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        Only issue is that qobuz has a relatively tiny lossless English library from my experience compared to other streaming services

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          That doesn’t sound right. I just checked my library of over 1k songs and the only non-16 bit/44.1 was a 320kbps live recording from a niche band. Everything else was lossless CD quality. Are you sure you don’t mean HiRes 24 bit better than CD? Because only 10 percent of my fairly eclectic library on Qobuz is 24 bit, while on tidal is was around 15 percent. Oddly enough listening to the same track in hires on both services definitely has a slightly different sound, which makes no sense to me as a non audio engineer.

          Or maybe I don’t understand the term for lossy vs lossless?

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            I mostly mean that when transferring a large playlist from something like Spotify it can become very noticeable how many songs are completely missing from the platform

            The statistics are 2 years old but out of 40k songs it went something like this

            Deezer: 259 tracks missing

            Apple Music: 529 tracks missing

            Tidal: 672 tracks missing

            Qobuz: 2572 tracks missing

            At least for me personally Apple Music had all my Spotify tracks in lossless while Tidal was a close 2nd where qobuz was straight up missing multiple artists, I have not tried deezer yet but I plan to later this month.

            As long as it is volume matched and the track is at least cd quality then it should all sound the same as lossless is lossless assuming you can’t hear above 22khz (although on all the platforms it is not that uncommon for artists to upload fake lossless files)

            Lossy however is a mess with how every codec can sound different at different bitrates and it is a fairly deep rabbit hole you can fall into, even with something like AAC there are multiple types that all sound different, AAC-LC, FDK-AAC, QuickTime-AAC etc.

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    Lemmy always downvotes me for saying I don’t want to use a service where I buy specific albums like bandcamp or IRL CDs for self hosting. For me, I only really listen to music when it’s new music discovery through a song-seeded radio station. I want a service that matches the vibe of a song I’m in the mood for and plays similar music.

    I don’t want to support Spotify, so I tried Tidal and Qobuz. Both worked well enough, even though they only seemed about 80% as functional and were missing some songs. It was worth it just to avoid giving money to Rogan and drone research.

    However, both services silently removed about 10% of my favorites list within the first month. No notification or record of what they removed. I was told this happens because they replaced the song with a different upload, so the old song no longer exists. My favorites list is a curated effort of cataloguing my music taste. Having it get a forgetful memory is unequivocally unacceptable.

    People say every service does this, but in the same time frame Spotify dropped 0 songs. I know because I made a list when I transferred. So now I’m back to waiting for a viable alternative to come around.

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      you can also use last.fm to build recommendations based off your MP3 collection you play.

      also, you can learn about music genres, and investigate the bands/musicians and their connections to each other.

      Pandora is also an alternative.