- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- opensource@programming.dev
- fediverse@lemmy.zip
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.world
- opensource@programming.dev
- fediverse@lemmy.zip
Loops (the Fediverse alternative to Tiktok) is now available for both iOS, and Android.
It was previously only available for iOS, or Android (via APK).
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I’m not sure I see this being very effective. In my opinion, the draw of TikTok isn’t the short video format itself (there’s plenty of mid-length content from 3-10 minutes on there), it’s the algorithm. Every other platform without the addictive and incredibly personalized algorithm loses the draw because that’s the only way the infinitely-scrolling random short form content pipeline works for people.
bruh the alternative to tiktok should be absolutely nothing. imagine if the conversation was “europeans are dependent on highly addictive american and chinese drugs” and the conclusion was “so we should create our own drugs instead” and not “let’s do our best to make people not use the drugs”
A potentially deranged teen approached me at the supermarket cashier asking me if I had social networks or used tik tok, or something like that. “No, I have forbidden them to myself for reasons of mental hygiene”
I tried loops months ago, never been on tiktok. Is it just all people walking their dogs and random snips of random landscapes?
Nah, it feels a lot more artistic and expressive than corporate-incentivized shorts. I’m here for it!
No money incentive, so you get different results.
TikTok is about stupid and addictive entertaining shorts. Loops doesn’t have those, so it might appear as more boring, but I think it’s healthier and so this is a plus.
Not a bad thing IMHO. Reminds me of the very old youtube
If only I managed to receive their confirmation email…
I hope I’m wrong and Loops takes off, but I imagine there isn’t a lot of overlap between people who are thoughtful enough with their social media usage to want a a federated platform, and people who enjoy TikTok-style (short / vertical) videos
I haven’t used it in a number of months.
It works as a short video delivery tool, but it’s filtering is almost non-existent.
At the very least, let me limit what I see on a language basis.
The lightning in the bottle for shorts is providing you what you like to see and refining that list to make it even better.
It’s also what makes shorts platforms so addictive.
My two most used platforms are actually tik tok and Lemmy.
But never actually used loops, or even peertube, because lack of content.
It’s easier for content to be generated by fewer users in lemmy or mastodon.
Same for me, although for loops the other thing I don’t like that much is that you have to curate it much more to be served videos you’re actually interested in. I understand many people here probably do their best to get away from algorithmically served content but it’s what TikTok does best imo.
I like shorts. Things like “DNS in 30 seconds.”
It’s not the format or the platform that turns me away, it’s the content. I don’t care about people twerking in the street or “kid drinks coke with mentos.”
I mean that’s kind of the one thing TikTok has going for it; it’s algorithm is very good at quickly adapting to what type of content you like. There’s plenty of IT/tech content on there, it just takes liking a few videos about a topic beforeyour feed adjusts. I havent seen “people twerking in the street” or “kid drinks coke with mentos” videos since basically the first time I opened the app.
Lol maybe it’s because every time I open the app I uninstall it. Kidding. I did see some absolutely incredible ways of teaching and learning math that made me utterly furious at the American education system. We teach academic subjects in the absolutely dumbest way possible. I learned that on Tiktok.
“C++ in 30 seconds.”
No one can be Derek Banas.
There might be a segment of users who want a “lefty” version of tiktok-style platform, in which Loops would probably fit that niche. My partner uses Red Note though, and it fits that criteria just fine while also being way more usable.
Bluesky had an app like that. Skylight or something like that.
I can’t find the source code anywhere
It’s in this repo.
not showing up in my region. and it should very much be on fdroid too, didn’t find it there either.
Does it still kind of suck?
It’s like most of the fediverse… it sucks because there’s basically zero content/discoverability
That’s true of many platforms but I think Lemmy is an example of the exact opposite. I just registered on my instance and now I get loads of interesting content from the general feed.
In fact Reddit, which is supposed to have more content, failed to get me using it because I just found it boring, unlike Lemmy.
I don’t mind that, but what I do mind is that the advertised premise of the fediverse (one account for all socials) is kind of a lie
The way it’s presented on jointhefediverse.net makes it seem like you can use one account across all federated socials. But it’s more one account for each social, across all instances of that social, with some interoperability
technically you can. I’ve seen people post to lemmy from mastodon, for example. I’m not super knowledgeable about this.
You can also do it the other way, and call out Mastodon users from Lemmy.
I did that to Jason Scott once, though I think he was less than happy about it. I was just shocked it worked.
Yeah. The Fediverse DOES suck. You won’t hear it from the users here obviously, because of self-righteous anti-capitalist views that drove them here in the first place. And I’m not saying they are wrong or it’s a bad thing, but now you’ve got the furry/band kid table from the high school lunch room helping you form your political opinion and consume your time with AWFUL anime memes.
This place may be the right fit for some, but a lot of people are here because they don’t fit in elsewhere. Some even claim that it’s the way they like it, but niche communities fail while copies of reddit communities are the only ones with engagement. That and the confusing system for platforms/instances will drive away everyday users who are used to an easy sign up. Lemmy/PieFed and Mastodon will probably carve out a tiny base of users over the next few years, but it’s doubtful that they will ever be mainstream. If reddit fails, another capitalist will swoop in and take their place.
.world ass comment
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just block the anime meme communities if they bother you, the point of lemmy is to have a personalised experience
That is not the point of Lemmy.
I’m so tired of people thinking the point of social media is to create a personalized echo chamber.
the point of lemmy is being libre. i enjoy customizing my content instead of just being fed by an algorithm. its just neat having the ability of creating an echo chamber, even if thats not what you want. people should be able to absorb opinions in the way they want
You’re being downvoted by an echo chamber for calling out the echo chamber.
LOL no. You dont just let an insane person run around wielding a knife cause they want to.
Saying its ok to want to only hear exactly what you want is not how existence works and you will crash against actual reality when it doesnt care to live up to the expectations of online.
like, why do you care? it’s none of your business how others form their opinions. even though i agree that it can be healthy and probably a good thing, people still have no obligation to confront themselves with differing views.
I think Fediverse isn’t really an exact alternative to proprietary social media. It’s a totally different way of engaging online, one which is more active, more conscious and more creative. So for people who want to be passive consumers Fediverse will always fail. But I believe more and more people are adopting the approach to using the Internet offered by the Fediverse so eventually it’ll grow to be the new norm.
You won’t hear it from the users here obviously, because of self-righteous anti-capitalist views that drove them here in the first place. And I’m not saying they are wrong or it’s a bad thing, but now you’ve got the furry/band kid table from the high school lunch room helping you form your political opinion and consume your time with AWFUL anime memes.
I’m a “self-righteous” anti-capitalist, but I’m not a furry or band geek.
That and the confusing system for platforms/instances will drive away everyday users who are used to an easy sign up
I’ll never really understand this critique of lemmy/fediverse. It’s not that hard. You just, uhh, pick one. If you don’t like it, just pick another.
If reddit fails, another capitalist will swoop in and take their place.
I’m not sure about that. Most people prefer the twitter-like platform, short-form content. Reddit style is a dying model imo. It’s not even that useful anymore, as everything is hidden away in Megathreads.
But yea, I doubt it will ever be mainstream. I’m fine with that though. Nothing I do is very mainstream. I’m just hipster like that I guess.
It’s not that hard.
Literally any effort at all is too hard for the majority of people. They want the smoothest experience possible, to never have to think.
I don’t think that’s a problem of Fediverse
Sure it is. Think about email - the majority don’t actually consciously pick pick an email service, they just get gmail by default and don’t think about it. There’s no “default” choice here, so they get confused and scared.
Yes, that’s what I mean: the Fediverse implies a more conscious and deliberate use of social media. It’s not intended for people who are more consumerist. So I don’t think the Fediverse itself competes with proprietary social media. I think it’s two different ways of using the Internet that are competing here.
It’s not any harder than any other platform I’ve had to sign up for for the past 30 years. I have no idea why some of you think it’s so difficult.
Did I say it was difficult? Nope!
These people are basically babies, they want everything spoonfed to them and don’t want to learn about anything.
It’s not that hard. You just, uhh, pick one. If you don’t like it, just pick another.
You overestimate peoples’ abilities and wherewithal.
Choosing the default instance during signup isn’t what’s keeping people from using the fediverse.
You won’t hear it from the users here obviously
Are you not a user here? Are you a figment of my imagination?
This place may be the right fit for some, but a lot of people are here because they don’t fit in elsewhere.
Ah, okay, so is that why you’re here? Nobody likes or wants you because you’re an asshole, so you thought you’d come and be an asshole over here instead?
Some even claim that it’s the way they like it, but niche communities fail while copies of reddit communities are the only ones with engagement.
This community has engagement. Is it a copy of a Reddit community?
Lemmy/PieFed and Mastodon will probably carve out a tiny base of users over the next few years, but it’s doubtful that they will ever be mainstream.
Is that the goal of the Fediverse?
I miss when trolls used to put effort into their posts.
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Edit: lmfao at your edit to make my comment read as nonsense. That’s the old fashioned trolling I used to know and love!
Swing and a miss.
