whoah buddy leave some women for the rest of us
I’ve seen this happen on lemmy
How is ot different than lemmy?
(Vastly different) in scale, but not category.
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The fediverse simply doesn’t have the infrastructure (centralization) to support a person or group of people from despotically lording over the only community for a topic. On Reddit, there’s only one /r/cars. You can’t start a other-reddit.com/r/cars.
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Fediverse admins (allegedly) can and do oust moderators that went sour and replace them. Reddit only does that when advertiser dollars are directly in jeopardy (crime, bigotry subreddits, protests of Reddit changes, etc.)
So while tyrants can and do pop up on Lemmy, people can and do simply stop visiting their communities. You can’t really do that on Reddit other than making an /r/cars2 and get a trickle of traffic compared to /r/cars no matter how well you run /r/cars2 compared to /r/cars.
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We don’t talk about that place here. We’re better than that.
“Sorry, but your comment saying that punching nazis is justifiable self-defense breaks our community guidelines on inciting violence so we’re going to ban you. Please ignore the openly racist comment you are replying to.” --Reddit admins
“Can you kindly consider not murdering children?” Clearly an antisemitic statement, ban!
As a counterpoint: moderation that just takes interaction into account leads to dumpster fires like /r/pics or communities entirely overrun by American politics. I love /c/lemmyshitposts but it’s grating how much US-centric political posting goes on in there. Like, a tweet from Bernie isn’t a shitpost ffs. I’d love at least one space not being ruined by American defaultism
Murican here. I think a lot of those are bot farms or nation-state actors atp. We need breaks from our own politics too.
While I generally agree with you, the shitposting community is just a catch-all community at this point.
Ok but are you suggesting America-posting isn’t shit or that we need something like a /c/lemmyshittierposts to put it in?
The US has at least 50% of the world’s “speaks English as their primary language” population. That’s not “American defaultism” that’s just how demographics work.
Do you think only native English speakers are posting online in English? But you are right, it isn’t “American defaultism”, it is US defaultism.
I’m saying it’s an obvious inevitability that English-language content is going to be Americans more often than not. And, because it annoys you, confirmation bias makes it seem overwhelming.
Isn’t the share of posts on Reddit coming from the US at something like 42%? Most of the content is in English from what I have read but I could not find data on how much exactly, if you know where to find that kind of data, just post a link.
I am not annoyed, why would I be? Your “primary” language example is just failing the point. An English comment written by someone who speaks another primary language is still English. Reddit is an international meeting place. English is a widely spoken lingua franca in major parts of the world, certainly in Europe and to some extend in India. If you have a place where people from different countries meet, the language will be most likely English and that dwarfs the number of US Americans with English as primary language.
As a case in point, do you seriously believe most of the posts on r/Europe for example are from US Americans?
It’s the same thing on Lemmy. Being a mod involves dealing with a bunch of bullshit that pretty much no sane person wants to do. So that role usually defaults to being done by petty weirdos that like having power over other people.
Such is the way of the world. Cops, crossing guards, “security” guards and loss prevention. Even positions not typically associated with power like grocery store clerks, teachers sometimes, etc. - the wrong person for the job will often assert a hierarchy where none existed before, nor is it needed, and in the process they’ll come up with some really bizarre hills to die on. Give the wrong person just a tiny bit of power over something small and they become like a troll defending their assigned bridge. It would be comical if it weren’t so pathetic.
You guys are aware that this type of moderator can also exist on the Fediverse, right?
Can and does exist.
Never got banned from a subreddit for simply downvoting - can’t say the same about communities…
ETA - This is no defense of Reddit; this may have changed over there but I don’t think votes were visible to mods back when I used reddit and it’s definitely something I don’t love about Lemmy…
I disagree. I think upvotes/downvotes being public contribute overall to a high-trust culture. Mods absolutely can be stupid about it and ban people for single downvotes, but some people really do mass downvote entire communities and/or spin up alternative accounts purely to downvote.
Did you downvote a single thread and got banned, or did you downvote multiple threads over several months and then got banned? I absolutely understand the former, but I can never understand the latter. Why subject yourself to months or years of scrolling through posts you don’t like when you can just block the community?
It’s happed a couple times. In neither case did I downvote all posts (or even most posts) because not all posts to the community were downvote-worthy.
Then that’s 100% the fault of those mods that banned you. I get wanting to ban people that mass downvote for no reason, but banning for a single downvote is just power tripping behaviour.
One of them was a mod gone rogue which I hadn’t realized at the time. The ban eventually got overturned and the mod was booted.
One of them was a new probable troll com with a sole troll mod. It was a new community so I was still willing to give it a chance. So that one…yeah, you’re probably right, I probably should have just blocked the com, but I was still giving it a chance.
I’m loose with downvotes but avoid blocking coms if I can.
Here and there I see people complaining about the things you detail in the comments, and sometimes out of curiosity I check that person’s attitude, and every single time it’s been pretty miserable.
Lo and behold, your current attitude sits at 46%, meaning (as I understand it) that you’re downvoting more often than you’re upvoting. My question is: what are you even doing here if you’re so obviously unsatisfied by so much content on the Fediverse? And is it maybe time that you found a social media site that better fits your likes…?
Lo and behold, your current attitude sits at 46%, meaning (as I understand it) that you’re downvoting more often than you’re upvoting
That seems like an oddly precise number.
I definitely upvote more than I downvote. It shouldn’t be surprising that in a conversation about getting banned for downvoting that the discussion would focus more on the downvotes.
No, but OP made the Reddit moderator ugly, therefore they win
There’s definitely one mod on one of the servers I’ve come across who seemed to be a bit nuts.
But, overall, they’re alright here.
On Reddit at this point, the whole thing is out of control and a lot of us are being banned despite fighting against the thing we were banned for
Ah, yes. The landed gentry.
I once got banned for inciting violence by saying “I hope no one gets hurt over this.” I disputed the temporary ban, and they upgraded me to permanent. Reddit is a joke.
I lost a 13 year old account for reporting hate speech. Turns out if just 2 moderators disagree with you, ever, that’s grounds for an unappealable permaban.
Did you ever happen to check your overall Reddit reputation using 3rd party sites?
I strongly suspect that Reddit runs such an internal service, which brings up some implications. One idea being that borderline users are probably seen as ‘no big loss,’ while valued contributors have more rope to play with. That’s all just speculation of course, but there are plenty of people who’ve commented along the lines of ‘I barely said anything objectionable and yet they permabanned me just like that!’
Not trying to imply that was your deal, but it does make me wonder. Sort of like the old trope of “everyone in prison being innocent.” I’ve never seen someone in these communities actually say ‘yeah, they banned me, and I probably deserved it.’
I deserved my ban tbh. Just not all the other bans.
I doubt I was seen as “high value”, or much of anything really, as I mostly lurked.
No, my crime was simple: I pissed off some power mods by reporting posts that broke the stated rules, but not the implicit ones.
It’s well known that various groups are abusing Reddit’s reporting systems in order to control opinion and get rid of people who might disagree with them.
Right, and that ties in to what I was speculating about above.
One idea being that if you’re going to ‘throw your weight around,’ it might be risky to do so as just a lurking-type user. Whereas if you’re someone with a high internal score, it would likely be harder to get permabanned, which of course is something that traditionally needs some level of admin intervention to make happen. Mods can at best only ban from communities they’re a part of.
I had my account under this same name permabanned because of saying something along the lines of ‘when people are attacked they have the right to defend themselves.’ The MAGA crowd didn’t like that.
I got “inciting violence” for Shermanposting. I disputed that I wasn’t inciting violence, more like praising the quality and effectiveness of historical work.
reddit is still relevant?
People still use it. Podcasters still talk about their subreddits. I haven’t seen the reddit front page in like 3 years tho. So I think reddit subs are still used.
Yeah, by bots
Ironic that this was posted to Lemmy where anyone can not just be a mod but an administrator too
I’ve recently found of that many large women’s subs are run entirely by men with very questionable views, ex. twox.
Reddit mods are just the worst of the worst.
Does this dude have a bloody armpit? Ketchup?
