[a sign reads FEMINIST CONFERENCE next to a closed door, a blue character shrugs and says…]
I don’t care
[next to the same door, the sign now says RESTRICTED FEMINIST CONFERENCE WOMEN ONLY, there are now four blue characters desperately banging on the door, one is reduced to tears on the floor, they are shouting]
DISCRIMINATION
SO UNFAIR!!!
LET US IINN!!
MISANDRY
Oh no. There are places where I’m not welcome. As a man, this deeply offends me.
Also, I’ve never received special treatment as a white male in the USA, so DEI just gives other people an advantage over me for no reason.
/s because… Well you know…
I’m not surprised by the comments who reject the idea in total. But the I am surprised by the comments that try and fail to think charitably about this. They end up both sides-ing it.
Edit: I figure I ought to do a little better job of explaining what I mean to the curious and good faith commentator.
- Women often mask or change the demeanor when men are present. This will restrict what they share and how they share it.
- Men often dominate the discourse both in time and style. This is related to number one.
- Women who have been traumatized by men will be on guard with men present. They will never be able to tell if you are safe or not in a public discourse situation.
- Men and women in the modern American context have different ways of relating to each other. When these conferences happen they sometimes are investigating new theories and new tactics. Male input can undermine free sharing.
- Men do the same.
2 & 3) We should birth fewer boys. It sounds like everyone would be happier.
- I hate American “passive gendered segregation” culture and want to destroy it. Also, new theories and tactics to achieve what?
Men believe that women “dominate conversation” whenever women take more than about 30% of the speaking time.
Do the following:
- Have men and women meet in a group and have a conversation on nearly any topics.
- Record the conversation.
- After the conversation, have participants fill out surveys on how much time the men and women spent talking.
- Review the tapes with a stopwatch and record the actual time spent talking by men and women.
Scientists have done this. What they find is that men will be utterly convinced that the women are dominating the speaking and conversation time, even if 2/3rds of the time is actually given over to men speaking.
Men do this without even realizing it. You probably do this without even realizing it.
If you really want techniques on how to end “passive gendered segregation,” then you need to adjust the character of cis men so they don’t feel that they’re being discriminated against at the exact same time they’re actually dominating things. Masculinity as practiced is performative and fragile.
Men do the same.
Never said they didn’t.
2 & 3) We should birth fewer boys. It sounds like everyone would be happier.
I don’t know if you lack the ability to understand that these four points were made in the context of why women might want a meeting without men or something else. Either way, I don’t think you belong in this conversation.
I hate American “passive gendered segregation” culture and want to destroy it.
Okay.
Also, new theories and tactics to achieve what?
The goals of feminism.
Never said they didn’t.
I suppose my point is that exclusion of any group or category of person effects what is said. So it doesn’t really matter. Its not a good enough reason.
Making a group explicitly exclusionary implies a perspective that the excluded group is an out-group, and thus an adversary.
Men who formed explicitly exclusionary male only spaces, boy’s clubs, etc. in the past almost certainly feel some level of disdain for women. And men who enforce soft exclusion, like guys who do litmus tests to see if a woman is earnestly interested in whatever the club is about, aggressively disgust me.
This is not a feeling I apply with gendered prejudice.
I don’t know if you lack the ability to understand that these four points were made in the context of why women might want a meeting without men or something else.
I wasn’t being a smart ass. (well, mostly) I’m a soft anti-natalist, my suggestion was a half joking gendered version of what I actually believe. I think that, if you have given information on what a person’s life is going to be like you should be honest in your assessment if they’ll live a life worth living and make the world a better place by being in it. I just have a much higher bar to clear than most people.
My view is that, if society is to give birth to 100 people, if there is a chance 1 of them will live a life so miserable that they are driven to suicide, regardless of reason, you should probably birth none of them. Guess what the global percentage of people who die of suicide is?
Either way, I’m don’t think you belong in this conversation.
Its a good thing you don’t get to make that decision then, asshole.
The goals of feminism.
There are many kinds of feminists and forms of feminism. I assume you don’t care to elaborate on specifics because you think you’d show me I’m right to view exclusionary spaces with some level of suspicion and disdain.
My main problem with this kind of thinking is the way it mirrors racial segregation. ‘I just don’t feel safe with those people around,’ is an all too common sentiment among racists. The key has to be to find ways to make people feel safe and humanised among those who are different in everyday life, because simply creating isolated bunkers of ‘safety’ that exclude others based on unchosen characteristics of their body is not a recipe for a cohesive, cooperative society.
Hey, look at the comment section, it’s the people the people from the comic.
Yeah, they’re miserable wretches. They’d be all better off having not existed.
EDIT: No one cares to explain why I’m wrong.
Hate speech is always wrong. No need to explain anything.
There’s actually mens that are feminist. Why would they be excluded from the conference?
Also, conferences are a great way to recruit new participants so that’s also stupid
Edit: forgot about woman safe spaces…
Why would they be excluded from the conference?
To create a safe space for women.
while I do get the ick from restrictive language like that, my main problem with the second sign would be that I’m 98% sure that it’s indicative that the “feminists” are actually terfs and by “women only” they mean “no <t-slur>s”
and by “women only” they mean “no <t-slur>s”
Why would TERFs not allow TERFs? That makes no sense!?
Cisfem here. Fucking terfs shat the bed for all of us.
TERFs just accelerated what was already there.
Saudi arabia : feminism conferance : no women in attendance.
Saudi Arabia has some extremely organized feminist movements tbf, just not sponsored by the government. (And cracked down by the regime)
I just want to feel good about being a man for one day.
Who’s stopping you?
I feel good about being a man.
If the existence of women only spaces is enough to make you feel bad about being a man, it seems what you’re actually feeling bad about is not having total access to everything and control over everyone. That’s a different issue, and is solved through therapy.
Would you be just as fine with a men’s rights conference that banned women? Honest question
White lives matter ass mf
durrr when I evaluate things I make sure to remove all context that way it’s fair hyuck
So you don’t care. I hope those manospheir assholes pay you for then recruitment
literal MAGA logic
“if you disagree with us and point out how fucking stupid the underlying premises to our position is, you’re just gonna drive people to us!”
You’re dumb as shit just like them
And you are a cunt that refuses to believe that men feel anything besides unending hate for women or one is saying women shouldn’t have their spaces and having male spaces does not effect you.
Not men. Manchildren like you who tell on themselves like this
It’s Because every day I am hearing about how awful men are. We can’t even have our own safe spaces because we can’t be trusted. I am constantly being told about how much dumber and more dangerous we are then women. Hell, you even made assumptions of me being some incel freak
Society is full of safe spaces for men.
If you don’t want people to assume you’re an incel, don’t act like one.
Got an example that has not been over run with alt right dipshits?
Men’s safe spaces are the default.
Taking some examples from my personal life : most gyms, many sports clubs, most gaming communities, barbershops, men’s addiction recovery groups, are places where men can feel very comfortable being themselves and taking all the space without little to no pushback. Some have alt right dipshits, some don’t. Find the right ones.
This comment thread is a prime example. Looking at the scores it’s implied that I should bow down to the needs of entitled men instead of having them work on themselves and curb their unhealthy need to have total control of everything everywhere. That’s what a male safe space looks like, so add Lemmy comment sections to the list above. Might feel hard to read, but I’m not one of those people who will pat you on the back just for existing. Being mad at the existence of women’s only spaces instead of looking for spaces that would fit you is unhealthy behavior. Other people are allowed to exist outside of your control. Work on yourself. If you can’t do it alone, try therapy. It worked for me.
All those places are expected to accept women or become alt right shit holes. I am not even against women only spaces. I just wish we can have liberal men’s places.
And no, I can’t afford therapy
Then build something instead of looking for people to blame.
I am not sure if you’re trolling on purpose or not. I think it’s irrelevant. I have a simple rule for life. Don’t be a dick.
How am I being a dick?
Everyday there is another stat of how poorly boys are doing in school. Or another story about men raping women. It’s basicly all thar gets talked about when it comes to men.
You simply do not have to identify with men.
I may be a man, but I remember what it was like to be a child and have a bigger person use their strength against me. So when I hear about a man doing that to a woman or white people doing that to minorities, I make the conscious decision to identify with the victims because I remember being a victim.
Your identity is your choice.
If you want to create a safe space for men, nothing is stopping you. Be the change you want to see instead of complaining about women doing it. How do you think they got it? They made it and fought for it.
Did you see the thing just last week where there was a massive online “rape school”? Where millions of men were online sharing videos of their drugged spouses and girlfriends?
Men are afraid that women won’t like them. Women are afraid that men will kill or rape them.
Only the number given was visitors who went to the site as a while which was just a regular porn site. The people who actually had anything with the ‘academy’ was a thousand.
Not that itnmatters to you I am guessing
How many people are jerking to those videos on motherless right now?
When was the last time several thousand women organized groups to discuss raping men?
Oh we did worse we got a whole comm on piefed where if a cismale comments as a cismale they get asked nicely to stop posting because it’s a comm for enbys, cis and transwoman to speak
I was explicitly denied a job because I’m a trans guy and that’s kinda common man. Im sorry there’s a couple of Internet forums you can’t post too, I wouldn’t have been able to get a bank account 50 years ago.
Pretty much 99.9 of women through most of human history, and a good chunk today, were effectively property. Occasionally times a bit better - right to divorce, consent to marriage, property rights, inheritance, ability to get a job……
Things don’t magically change over night. I don’t know, I’m just a trans man that got recommended and took a special “careers for girls” elective that was nurse or cosmetologist.
all oranges are fruits, therefore I’m justified in assuming any fruit is an orange by default
How do people not understand how patently ludicrous this line of thinking is?
Why are men unable to put aside their emotions anyone someone points out that lots and lots of men do fucked up things, and are systematically supported?
You hear some men, and because you think emotionally, you hear “all men.”
Rapist in my state almost killed three teenage girls. He got court ordered therapy and community service.
Tulsa’s DA was just complaining about mandatory minimums for rapists.
And are we fucking forgetting that for 99% of human history, and still in most of the world, women didn’t get to learn to read? Go to school? Got married off as children?
Marital rape wasn’t illegal in every US state until 1993.
Why are men unable to put aside their emotions
Projection. I did nothing more than simply point out an obvious logical fallacy.
anyone someone points out that lots and lots of men do fucked up things
Lots and lots of women do fucked up things, too. If someone reacted to a story about a woman throwing her newborn baby into a dumpster with “geez, what is wrong with women?” you would get, justifiably, offended at the generalization.
There’s no need for a double standard, one standard will do just fine.
and are systematically supported?
That doesn’t look like ‘systematic support’ to me.
You hear some men, and because you think emotionally, you hear “all men.”
More projection, especially considering you’ve dived headfirst into “all men” yourself just above.
Rapist in my state almost killed three teenage girls. He got court ordered therapy and community service.
Meanwhile, I couldn’t even get charges pressed against my female rapist.
Your empathy gap is showing.
I like how first you accuse me of emotionally extrapolating “some men” to “all men”, and then you literally do just that, using individual cases of men doing shitty things as argument against my saying not to generalize men.
You don’t even realize how blatantly you’re exposing yourself.
Marital rape wasn’t illegal in every US state until 1993.
Even though women rape men just as often as men rape women (it just doesn’t seem so because of successful lobbying to have unwanted female on male sexual contact labeled with a term other than “rape” so that it wouldn’t be included in “rape statistics”), it still is effectively legal for women to do so. See how long it takes you to find a woman who was convicted for raping a man.
A woman can molest a male child, get herself pregnant, wait until he’s of age, and then successfully sue him for back child support. Good luck finding a case of a man legally winning child support from the girl he molested.
I wonder what Nick Olivas would have to say about that “systematic support” that you claim favors males so heavily.
Can you give me individual numbers of those incidents versus incidents of violent rape, domestic violence, and statutory rape?
Yes. Bad people exist everywhere.
On the whole, the system is set up to help bad men. There is systemic oppression of women. The fact that the US elected a man who went on tape proudly described sexually assaulting women indicates this. The fact that every woman in my immediate line was teenager impregnated by an adult man. The fact every teenage girl is taught to how to put the keys between her knuckles as she walks somewhere late, the way that packs of adolescent boys or “men in a car” have been a signal of instant threat to all women ever.
I got dog whistled as a teen. I dressed about as strange as I could be I can still go find a Facebook message of relative who confessed things to me. It’s just universal if you grow up female.
Which gender is in prison for violent crimes? What are the leading causes of deaths for pregnant women?
If the existence of white only spaces is enough to make you feel bad about being black, it seems what you’re actually feeling bad about is not having total access to everything and control over everyone. That’s a different issue, and is solved through therapy.
Behold, your logic.
Because literally the only difference between being white and being black in our society is pigment and these things are completely interchangeable. Why may I ask did you not insert blackness in place of femininity? Why did you invert the marginalized group for your hypothetical??
Behold, the “I’m not racist” debate bro
holy shit I didn’t even see the on the nose username before I wrote that hahahaha
For real.
This is literally what happens in Lemmy’s women-only sub. Posters are still complaining about it in comments below.
Ugh… I fear for the future of my sex. Sometimes, I want to slap some basic respect into other guys. Nothing fancy or philosophical, just “don’t be a dick, leave other human beings in peace” kind of common sense. Yet it feels like a losing battle.
tbf that sub’s rules are a joke.
1 Women only
3 Don’t hate on groups, hatefilled talk about groups is not allowed. Ever.
But the sub does a hell of a lot of man bashing behind the ridiculous fig leaf of ‘not all men’.
I block it.
Tell me you haven’t looked at a community without telling me you haven’t seen it.
The top post of this week is about chocolate.
The top post of this month is called “real men cry” and it’s about how men should be allowed to be emotionally vulnerable.
Funny enough, the top post of the last three months is a screenshot of:
“I see so many men saying feminism is bad. Please tell me which of my rights I don’t deserve as a woman. I’m curious.”
Well, I haven’t looked at it for a while.
“I see so many men saying feminism is bad. Please tell me which of my rights I don’t deserve as a woman. I’m curious.”
If they were genuinely curious and wanted to know an answer to that question, then why would they post it in a community where men couldn’t respond? That seems disingenuous.
Why not go to 4chan or xitter and ask the men there why they don’t like feminism? Cause I assume that’s where they’re seeing all these “men saying feminism is bad.”
But generalizing it as all or most men doing this and then posting it somewhere only women can comment, just seems like they’re looking for a circlejerk/echo chamber where everyone will reaffirm their biases/assumptions.
Let’s also not pretend that every self-proclaimed “feminist” is solely concerned with her own rights. Lots of people on the internet call themselves feminists without really understanding a thing about feminism. You could more accurately call them “pseudo-feminists.” The “man-hating feminist” stereotype comes from somewhere, and the error is in calling them “feminists,” not in saying that they hate men.
If they’re reinforcing toxic masculinity culture, and instead of dismantling systems of oppression they make it their goal to participate in those structures as the oppressor, then they’re not feminists. But a lot of women do this while calling themselves feminists.
So I think a lot of the hate and criticism directed towards “feminism” is really directed towards pseudo-feminism, and people don’t understand the difference because how likely is someone to read bell hooks or carol gilligan when it seems like all the so-called “feminists” on social media are repeating stuff like “gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss” (which is literally just women participating in patriarchy, not dismantling it).
I mean if you don’t want people confusing feminism with pseudo-feminism, that’s fine and understandable. But you can’t really pretend all of the criticism directed at pseudo-feminism under the guise of feminism is exclusively geared towards removing women’s rights. By understanding the problem, you can begin to address it. So police your own, and call people out when they’re promoting pseudo-feminism and calling it “feminism.”
A good indicator, is that if someone is telling men that their feelings don’t matter, then they’re not really a feminist.
From personal experience posting my content on multiple platforms, Lemmy’s userbase is by far the most fragile one regarding sexism.
Yes, even worse than Reddit, where this very comic had its comment section locked by the rcomics mods due to the hundreds of pissed off dudes crying in the comments. At least they get downvoted on Reddit. Lemmy really is dudebro land, and needs to fix that if it wants to grow further (which I would like as a Lemmy enjoyer).
I’ve said this a few times already, and it usually makes Lemmy users uncomfortable, so I’ll keep repeating it as often as necessary.
Us Lemmy dudebros obviously cannot fully appreciate your level of rage-baiting.
So I’ll tell ya what: since we are too fragile for your upscale messaging, feel free to take it somewhere else. Your content, and you, are not welcome here at !comicstrips.
if you have a personal issue with the OP and you use your moderator flair to try and threaten them, you are not the type of individual that should be a moderator, imho.
the post does not violate the instance rules and neither does their behavior.
this is not a great look.
At least 2 of the mods are involved in this.
It’s somehow amazing how the comm got worse once mods were added
Worth noting that none of the incels in this thread got a threat (or a ban) like I did.
And that the example of my past “problematic” behavior by the other mod was an old unmoderated thread full of racists and white supremacists in which some of my comments were retroactively deleted for being uncivil, but none of the racists in that thread got moderated or banned, somehow making me the main issue there.
Consciously or not, it means their demand is not “be civil” but rather “we’re protecting bigots, and anyone who gets annoyed and talks back to them will be dealt with”. It’s just flaccid tone policing, and somehow extends to comics too, not just comments.
As I told them, I’ll be nice and pretend I didn’t read this comment chain, and will continue posting my comics as usual. However, I won’t stop clapping back at bigots if they remain unmoderated. Let’s hope the new mods will learn something from being badly ratioed for their takes in here.
This mod team needs the oversight of someone who has actual experience moderating a big community (and doesn’t act like a dork the instant they get a sliver of power over others). If they aren’t up to the task and keep threatening people who are trying to push bigots out instead of the bigots themselves, I’ll have a chat with the instance admins. Don’t want yet another Lemmy community to fragment, dull, or die.
This is insane overreaction.
This is Lemmy, we don’t have advertisers to appeal to so we don’t have to sterilize our content for their sake.
This person’s posts ruffles feathers. That’s okay, people can have their feathers ruffled. I don’t see any significant harassment, name calling, hate speech as a result of this poster or their posts, so I can’t fathom any reason to react this way. People are allowed to be uncomfortable, people are allowed to disagree; the existence of controversy or disagreement or discussion in and of itself is not indicative of a problem.
We have got to stop acting like approaching a caution sign on the road is the same thing as experiencing a car accident.
Are you being serious?
Is this the official stance of the new mod team or a sarcastic reply?
Legitimately can’t tell.
Intentionally rage baiting comics don’t really belong here.
You’re intentionally inviting uncivil discourse which is not in line with Rule 1: Keep it Civil.
Going through the comments there’s a lot of flame baiting going and posts like this usually generate a ton of reports due to things getting out of hand very quickly.
Maybe a better sub for this type of content would be !ragecomics@lemmy.world?
You fundamentally misunderstand what a comic is. You also clearly do not know what a rage comic is. It’s not a good look for someone picking up mod duties on a comics community. I would suggest looking at other successful/popular comic communities around the internet (start with r/comics on Reddit for example, there’s other places worth investigating too).
I’ve been contributing here for a year without any previous issues. Nobody from within the community has ever told me that my content doesn’t belong here. It usually gets good scores/votes. This is the first time I’m getting this demand, and it’s coming from a brand new mod team, so I’m going to pretend I didn’t read this comment and give you time to think it through properly.
Getting rid of content that generates conversation will leave you with a dull or dead community soon enough. Alienating people who have been contributing content regularly for a while won’t help. That’s probably not your end goal.
I acknowledge that perhaps comparing your comics to ragecomics was incorrect and insulting to you, I apologize for that.
That being said your posts that tend to get the most comments are your most divisive comics like this. It’s not that you’re generating insightful conversation, you’re simply provoking a response through divisive or inflammatory messaging.
The problem comes from the insult slinging the content invites along with the reports that come out of it. Doesn’t help when the flames are fanned by commenting “cry more”. It feels like you might thrive off of rage-baiting like this since you seem to be aware of the headache your content is causing to mods as you remarked that this very comic was locked on /r/comics.
Doesn’t help when the flames are fanned by commenting “cry more”.
Fair assessment. I deleted the “cry more” comment and another similar one, my apologies, those are indeed uncivil. However, I would like to remind you that until very recently this community was entirely unmoderated, and that slinging insults at reactionaries / sexist / racist folks was the only way to make them go away. I can adjust that behavior now that the place is (hopefully) properly moderated, but it’s a different request from the “you are unwelcome here” that your colleague opened with, nor was the “did I stutter” they followed it up with when I was trying to clarify the situation a civil response tbh.
It feels like you might thrive off of rage-baiting like this
My comics are satirical. The point of satire is that it stings when it hits the correct notes. If you think social/political satire doesn’t belong in this community, then you should add it to the rules. But that would mean banning a lot of the most famous / classic comics of all time, such as The Far Side, Peanuts, Mad Magazine, Dilbert… hell even Astérix is straight up satire.
Satire is very different from ragebait: it’s meant to make people think about preconceptions they have, about topics they don’t usually question, by presenting them under a different light that exposes the fundamental hypocrisy behind that situation. Ragebait is just stuff made to piss people off for fun. I don’t do such content.
aware of the headache your content is causing to mods as you remarked that this very comic was locked on /r/comics
I am in good terms with the mods of r/comics. We have regular conversations, and never once have they accused my content of being ragebait, complained that I was uncivil (although to be fair the place is actually moderated so I can just report comments over there), or complained that my comics aren’t comics. Quite the opposite actually, they enjoy that I (and other popular cartoonists) act as a magnet for unmasking bigots, it helps them get rid of those people.
They locked the thread because it was attracting an overwhelming number of men’s right activists, so many more than usual that it had to be a raid from a third party community. It wasn’t because they had any issue with the content of the comic or with the discourse that was happening under it (actually there was some pretty good discourse regarding transphobia if the comic is seen under a specific prism that I didn’t take into account, which is healthy and important discourse).
My comment that spawned this entire conversation was a commentary on a deep sexism issue that Lemmy has to deal with, especially in unmoderated or poorly moderated communities. Whether I continue posting content here or not, those people will still be there, and you’ll have to deal with them sooner or later. Keep that in mind.
All in all, I understand that it’s hard to take over a husk of a community and turn it into something better. If you think I don’t fit, then fine, your place your rules. Just make sure that decision fits with what the community actually wants (doesn’t seem to fit with the votes / scores my content gets + nobody in this community has ever told me my content doesn’t belong here), and that everyone here understands what your definition of a comic is, otherwise you’re exposing yourself to fragmenting or dulling the community, which is something I don’t want to happen even if I do get excluded, as this is the kind of stuff that alienates Fediverse users and hurts Lemmy’s overall popularity.
Good luck figuring this all out. Thanks for actually making a proper detailed comment about it. If you genuinely think my content doesn’t belong here, then just ban me and be done with it, would be better than your colleague’s confusing attempt at trying to act tough. Otherwise I’ll continue posting on the usual schedule, as I’ve been doing for a year now. I enjoy the conversations in here, sometimes it mostly generates rage and negative reactions sure (especially when it’s about sexism tbh), but most of the time they’re constructive and interesting. See you tomorrow… or never I guess, depending on how you feel. Your move. Good night.
Pretty sure I didn’t stutter.
This is not the correct hill to die on.
If you confidently feel that I am unwelcome here, why not just ban me and be done with it?
You’ll also need to ban some of the other regulars who have been contributing content to this place for a long time now. You might want to have a serious inner discussion within your team and with the community about what a comic actually is. A good start would be looking at other successful/popular comic communities around the internet (start with r/comics on Reddit for example, there’s other places worth investigating too).
Getting rid of content that generates conversation will leave you with a dull or dead community soon enough. Alienating people who have been contributing content regularly for a while won’t help. That’s probably not your end goal.
Take some time to think about it, I’ll head out for now. Good night.
You come into this community with bad faith posts simply to start arguments, and are told you’re not welcome here. If you continue with said behavior, you will be banned. This has been your warning. Enjoy your evening!
I share comics in Lemmy’s main comics community.
They’re shared in good faith, with the goal of being relatable and thought provoking content. As all comics are, that’s precisely the reason why people make comics, especially satirical ones. I have better things to do with my life than creating chaos for the sake of chaos.
This comic has a good score, a good upvote % ratio, has generated some interesting conversations (and some chaos too, sure).
You told me I am unwelcome in response to a comment that has 89 upvotes vs 20 downvotes at the time of writing this. Are you sure that you understand the community you are representing / moderating? Seems like there’s an obvious rift here.
In the end it’s up to you, and if you want me gone, then I’ll be gone, I’m not here to argue with you. I’d just like to spare everyone (you included) the headache of whatever happens next if you start power tripping. It would lead to the usual lemmy community split, fragmenting the userbase even more, etc. which is not desirable for any of us.
You should really think this through, starting with learning what a comic is, and looking at what the community wants or doesn’t want to see here.
Damn I am tired of sexist people like you. Stop badmouthing men if your brain is too smooth to understand that “dick” can be a female too. Write no dick behavior instead, you sexist idiot. Might as well start doing memes with “no black people allowed” sign
Calling your hypothetical “dick” “a female” is not helping your case… (it also sounds rather funny the way I said it hehe)
Okay then let it be asshole. Everyone has one innit?
due to the hundreds of pissed off dudes crying in the comments
Huh, almost like the comic is sexist. Who’d had thunk?
Here’s my take on it:
I think we do deserve a private community of only women where women can have a safe place to talk about whatever they want without men. The problem is that this is not a private community, lemmy and piefed are fundamentally public spaces, not private, it is impossible and unreasonable to have a private community.
Perhaps in the future we’ll gain the ability to make real private communities where users must be approved to view posts, but that’s not today.
The mods of the community have the idea that it’s everyone else’s problem, that tens of thousands of people should go out of their way to remedy the issue by blocking the community just so a couple hundred (thousand?) people can have no responsibility for it.
I participated in the community at the beginning of its existence (despite my username, I am not a guy), and have long since left and blocked it because I really hated how the mods treated others. Maybe it’s changed over the last 6 months or whatever, but they’ve left a permanent impression on me.
Yeah nah mate
Anyone can join. Anyone can read. You’re just asked not to comment because it’s not a space for cismale voices.
I - and you - see HUNDREDS of comms and posts in any random feed that don’t apply to you. You skate over them, don’t even blink. It’s absolutely nbd.
But you need a fucking cone to not post on a single women’s community and it’s some how the community’s fault for expecting you to act like a reasonable human?
Bullshit.
How much you bet that the creator of this comic is now a huge TERF?
I don’t know, you tell me how much.
As the comic’s author, and certainly not a TERF, I’m here to take the earnings of that bet.
Sorry, just nature of habit. I can send $20 to the charity of your choice however.
Mermaids and Not A Phase seem to be the most hated charities on TERF Island, must mean they’re doing good things.
Don’t do it unless you really want to though. It was just an ephemeral comment exchange on a silly social network, no peer pressure and have a beautiful day :)
Replace the restriction with “whites only” and you have your answer of whether or not something is descriminatory.
Descrimination is descrimination, it does not matter who the target is.
Replace your delicious sandwich ingredients with ANTHRAX and it doesnt sound so delicious anymore, does it?
Ever think about that, liberals?
There’s a lemmy community called womenstuff or something like that and as the name implies is for women and only women should comment and post. Sometimes a man will comment and post and they have to be told that the comrunithy is for women only.
Lemmy needs private and accesible by invite only communities.
The mods there have said they want women passing by to see it and also anyone else really, just that they ask men please don’t post because it’s a women’s space. It’s pretty hard to be mad about it when everyone there seems so nice, especially the mods.
Nothing about that name indicates that men shouldn’t comment. If it was “womensOnlySpace” then maybe.
