Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
Rimu
What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Kicking from all Matrix PieFed rooms
Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rimu has been manufacturing non-stop drama for weeks. He ignores multiple offers from multiple parties to de-escalate, and now he bans someone for trying to promote non-discriminatory language. He has also now cut off a PieFed admin from any and all support and ability to contribute to the software.
Oh and the real kicker ? Rimu did all this after his big grand post about how he is stepping back from drama and hiding away from users.
PTB
“look at me im an ally!” like no bro, you dont get to decide that yourself. because you didnt get a pat on the back for this, or an apology for your perceived wrongdoings you ban them, immediately after they try to peacefully deescalate the situation. crazy behavior.
Apparently, so long as someone isn’t openly anti-AI, it’s ok to use bigoted language towards them. This is, sadly, pretty standard fare for the typical liberal, who is perfectly happy to descend into homophobia or transphobia if it means they can use it to mock their their political opponents.
I can’t believe Rimu is antagonising friendly Quokka. What happened to him in the last few weeks?
When a lot of people criticised him and left the Piefed general group chat he responds so poorly.
I feel like Reddit Gold is a more respectable purchase than donating to CreampieFBI
the more I see of Rimu’s behavior, the less inclined I am to believe he’s an adult.
There is a fork going, right? Could you link it?
Why is every maintainer of the threadiverse unhinged, like I switched to piefed partially because I disagreed with the politics of the Lemmy devs, and recently the piefed dev does weird stuff. Does making foss software really have that big of an effect on someone’s mental health?
Because us developers, we are just a couple of nerds on the Internet. We didn’t study public relations or politics at university, and don’t know which spontaneous comment might generate a shitstorm. Unlike /u/spez we don’t have a PR team writing posts for us. And because there is no profit motive, Lemmy and Piefed don’t need to appeal to everyone like Reddit does. Consider it the price to pay for using a non-commercial platform.
It becomes tantalizing when you have your software running on others systems to see what you can get away with.
FOSS is notorious for egomaniacs. That’s why there’s so many forks and endless implementations of basically the same shit! Just with some new unpronounceable name that’ll often be abandoned in short order.
It’s because FOSS attracts libertarians and anarcho-NATOists (not exclusively). FOSS social media attracts liberals. Multiply all that by Reddit, well, you create my favorite bloodbowl ever. No offense you all probably mean well, on some level, but it’s just people following different forms of idealism suddenly losing their shackles to one part of Silicon Valley. Interested to see where it all… ends up? Maybe it won’t end up, it’s not impossible.
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about
the PTB continues
mia:
asks to remove insult to peoples intelligence from the function name for the hardcoded ‘low effort’ post filter
rimu:
‘i’ll have you know i am not transphobic, see i made a pronoun tag’
mia:
attempts to de-escalate and explain that this was not a personal criticism
kicked
Oh and the real kicker ? Rimu did all this after his big grand post about how he is stepping back from drama and hiding away from users.
when i read that post the subtext was always ‘i’m isolating myself from anyone critical, only interacting through alts and toadies going forward’
like say what you will about the lemmy devs they’ve received way more criticism, targeted harassment and smears over the years without needing to turn it into a big vendetta like this has been. for example i’ve said that i think nutomic should step back in the past because of his actions! while i wish he handled that situation better and
while i wish his apology for it was better,
at least since then he has left us alone and has largely stepped back from moderating things, rather than attempting to actively silence all dissent
Being a developer is difficult, because a lot of people pay attention to what you say. And any mistake can get a lot of visibility. Sometimes I wish that Lemmy was a company, with a community manager who takes care of these things. But anyway, it is how it is.
in your case as well it doesn’t help that there’s a subset of ideologically motivated people just waiting to jump on any comment to run a smear campaign on it.
for me actions speak louder than words and despite my initial disappointment following the dm leak, years have passed and i haven’t seen that turn into a pattern of behavior.
i will say i kind of prefer that lemmy isn’t a company, in part because frankly i trust a handful of communists to not just hand over user info and ip addresses to the alphabet boys more than i would any sort of company
“stupid” is ableist?
Only if you’re stupid.
before too long there will be very few words left that aren’t labeled as scary and harmful.
And we’ll have no word to properly describe the beliefs of the fascists who are murdering us
yeah I looked up the definition of stupid just to be certain. its just an insult and not an ableist slur.
It’s still dehumanizing.
Like calling non-humans stupid beasts or dumb animals. That’s what it seems like they’re doing here. Stupid is just shorthand for “(lessor) humans with (worthless) opinions that I don’t like.”
i disagree with your interpretation. stupid is an insult. a mild one. and nobody is going to take the request to stop using it seriously. as its quite a silly notion.
Now you’re attacking silly people. Why the hostility?
We could never call them fascist beliefs, no they would be confusing.
You only feel that way because bigots constructed language for way too long.
Yes John H. English was actually a bigot. and his friends who created the english language from scratch in a big room also were bigots!
an outrage!
Oh look the enlightened centrist who runs cover for dog whistling chuds thinks language is becoming “too PC.”
Have you tried not being as obnoxious as possible?
Aside from the silly drama i dont care about, stupid is a bad word now? What the fuck.
it’s been a bad word for a long time, mostly for children. many parents try to prohibit it because it really does come out as hateful more often than not
While that’s true, I doubt most Lemmy users are of the age that saying the word “stupid” gets you put on time-out.
it makes little sense to me as well. it seems like every few months or so, random innocent words get added to “no-no” lists.
This is particularly hilarious God Complex behavior coming from the person that just recently tried to argue for essentially a Fediverse UN… 100% missing the entire point of federation, that there is no one single central authority.
Like this is lolcow behavior, just very plainly.
Yeah, that is a weird jump in accusations. Like… completely non-sequitur. If some important context isn’t missing, this is weird behavior. possibly a sign of pathological issues.
so, yeah, unless something important is missing, PTB
Stamets wrote up an amazing summary of events so far if you can find it.
There’s a lot of previous drama Rimu has made that you can see across the few posts below this one and on the Fediverse comms. The latest thing was he shadowbanned quokk.au so their posts don’t show up in all or new users can find the instance to join.
He’s declared war on anarchists and all other leftists basically.
Edit: He has now provided his “justification” for the act
Mind you he hasn’t kicked anyone else on the same “side” as her.
For the curious, here’s that antiableist list
As for insults, be creative with your words and do so without being ableist.
So we should not say someone is stupid, rather, that they could not find their ass with both hands, could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag, could fall into a bucket of titties and come out sucking their thumb?
I’m not sure that that’s better.
Thanks for sharing, do you know why disabled is preferred over handicapped? As a non native speaker they carry the same meaning/connotation for me.
Nice, thanks !
The list is recommending stubborn as an alternative to delusional, but I thought that meant someone born without limbs ? isn’t that super-duper-ableist ?
Wiktionary says “uncertain origin” but in doubt I would just abstain
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stubborn
edit I think I confused stub with stump.
Stump means “what remains of a limb that was cut off”. My bad…Isn’t the idiom “hard-headed” more precise?
The etymology of stubborn still eludes us.
“Unwilling to budge” is also accurate.
This drama is even more stupid than the last one.
Congratulations to everyone on being truly obnoxious stereotypes of leftists in the “complete disintegration of the community” type infighting.
The only person I see making drama here is Rimu and he ain’t a leftist
