I am pretty sure a handful of people are constantly making alts to cause discord on Lemmy/Piefed.
It does feel like something odd is up recently. The amount of comfort I’ve been noticing with people directly calling for specific individuals to be harmed, the anti-Isreal stuff leaning harder into more anti-Jewish talk, and the pot stirring between Db0 and World all feel a bit manufactured.
I was at a community that was supposed to be mostly for anarchists, and it wasn’t one of the major tankie instances, and yet I still met someone who insisted “zio” culture is just murder and rape. And their post history wasn’t any better.
Yeah, I was seeing it pop up in otherwise civil conversations and go straight to what I’d consider far right conspiracy stuff or outright hate for anyone Jewish anywhere. I don’t recall if they were new accounts, but they were people I was not previously familiar with.
There is much to criticize about the events going on, but this type of talk is not criticism.
Also how conveniently day old accounts from instances with open registration pop up to go on racist or transphobic tirades so that db0 or .ml members can pin it on opponents.
They also think comments like this constitute “pro-Zionism” somehow.
They are deeply unserious virtue-signalers at heart, and it’s wild watching them adopt more and more obvious anti-semitism just to show how “anti-Zionist” they are.
Also how they tend to be ableist themselves, but then call others out when they are ableist.
And I literally only ever said that neither Israeli nor Palestinian should have to suffer conflicts between Hamas and IDF and that was still interpreted as zionist.
It feels like in their eyes, you are a zionist if you arent outright for the destruction of Israel including it’s citizens.
The funniest part is watching them research every word to see if there’s some several-hundred year old connotation that could maybe, potentially be considered ableist-adjacent so they can go “Ooo, Ooo! Ableist!!”
Like, clearly they aren’t actually trying to protect anyone from ableism at that point, they’re just fishing for a way to discredit.
I mean they use “stupid” and “idiot” all the time, when I even use them as rarely as possible (and when I do, it is for things and not people).
Edit: I just searched me using “stupid” in posts and comments and this is literally the first comment out of nearly two thousand comments where I mention the word. lol
On a side note they insist that I am a zionist and constantly misgender me (he instead or she or they). Meanwhile antizionists who arent anglos and terminally online try to insist that I am an “antizionist who doesnt like the term” and Zionists straight up claim I am an antizionist and in the case of anti-Germans sometimes an antisemite because I dont support Israels actions (war and colonialism) and condemn the IDF.
It is always the same people who Rimu conveniently banned from piefed.social who insist I am a zionist.
The thread in question, since it’s on the piefed.social instance.
There’s been a whole thing going on for a few weeks straight ever since db0 banned someone for Nakba denial.
Given how LLMs always try to please, asking them to find something specific is very likely to result in just that. A more neutral query would be to ask to simply summarize the history, though it’s weird that a purportedly anarchist group would be relying on a completely centralized corporate LLM in its moderation. Even then, you need to be careful not to be swayed by the LLMs suggestions and analyze each highlighted comment in an unbiased manner.
What is weird is that its clear they didn’t decide to ban because of an LLM output and they used local and FOSS models to summarize the explanation. The explanation provided, instead of just ‘Zionism’ or ‘Rule#X’ or ‘genocide denial’, is what used the LLM.
Their own caption says it was ChatGPT and I don’t believe it can be run locally. Either way, one of the many issues with LLMs is that they come across like a person and are convincing even when hallucinating. Couple that with the human psychology of generally taking people for their word, and you have created a perfect environment for being manipulated. Going by the linked thread, in one instance, the AI included a quote that wasn’t the exact quote. You could argue the actual comment wasn’t that different from it, but that’s more like confirmation bias. Even asking an AI to not comment on anything and just distill the provided content to the most important quotes would be affected by selection bias, but that’s not even how they used the model. They literally asked it to find what they were looking for.
That’s not a shadow lock. Lemmy doesn’t support this feature yet. The feature allow mod to lock part of the thread. I hope lemmy v1 will get it.
It’s very useful, because we don’t have to lock the whole thread but only part of the discussion. So other users can continue talking.
This tool can end heated debate rather continuing pointless discussion. I believe it should be expanded to users too and we desactivate the unlock feature with a warning message “it will lock the thread forever. You cannot come back, are you sure ?”
Lastly, there was no point in continuing discussion. The user found the discussion interesting but didn’t want to continue. And for him, reading book is important.
I don’t like that as a “feature”. shadow-anything is a terrible excuse for poor moderation. feel free to block users at a personal or instance level, or simple defederate unwelcome/spam instances. Cant lock the conversation on other instances… Kinda feels pointless.
Typically mods don’t get alerted until after theres a 40+ reply chain of ‘no u’.
Realistically it is mostly a tool for when a moderator is engaged in a heated debate, and needs a stop button. The thread in question being a perfect example.
Tangential, but what’s the go-to mobile app for Piefed? I’ve long made an account, but I just log into Lemmy still because when I am at my PC, I have better things to do than laugh at tankies, and on mobile, there’s a button on my device that brings me to Lemmy. I’m not sure what shiny new button to replace it with, and realistically the sooner I can stop using tools created by fascists in socialist clothing, the better.
I’m currently using Jerboa for Lemmy, though I am not married to any of its features.
Pretty sure Voyager supports most or all piefed features.
I’ve been using Summit, it’s pretty nice. I recommend you just try a bunch of them and see what you like.
I’ve tried blorp a few times, it was OK but honestly the browser experience is pretty good.
Blorp dev here. Is there any specific feature/improvement I could add that would bring Blorp from ok to great?
Can I please see parent comment while replying?
