i did read it and it’s stupid

then from an outside perspective, you must realise that yanks only have two options for their government.

if you’re not a yank why are you whining about their democrats and republicians? leave the yanks to their shithole

mate drop the larp. you have the perfect time for revolution now, but none of you are doing shit and you will never do this revolution™

So hurry up and throw your larpy revolution now, or suck it up and admit that the democrats are your best option. you have either trump or democrats, those are your main options. Or you can leave the shithole US for a better country.

yanks are weak-willed and will never revolt. stop pretending you’re a revolutionary in waiting.

Ensign Crab?

It’s incredible how much language they co-opt from the alt-right, specifically calling anyone who opposes them as a fed or a shill. Horseshoe theory and all

piefed is sounding better and better.

just wish there was a way to transfer communities and such

It’s important to note that when arguing with tankies they use their own definition of words through the reference of communist theory. So, for example, imperialism to you and me, or anyone with a dictionary, means subjugation and expansion through force. For tankies, it just means capitalism, as per Lenin’s theory. (meaning anything non-capitalist cannot be imperial)

You can’t talk facts or theory with tankies since they make up their own. You’ll never be able to ‘out-logic’ them, since that’s not how they’re arguing. Another example is that China is imperialist towards Tibet, yet under tankie semantics, China by definition cannot be imperialist because they say they are socialist.

You can never argue with tankies since they can’t argue in good faith; they can’t concede on anything because they’re authoritarians, not communists.

Honestly downvotes should be removed. They were originally to combat spam, but that’s not really a thing in Lemmy

Here’s the context

Fun seeing tankies rage at each other

The factory suicide net is uplifting, comrade

China can’t even have independent worker unions.

So socialist

Love it when they suddenly start celebrating imperialism. You just know they’re going to argue that the cultures China and the USSR subjugated were barbaric and deserved to be wiped out, you know, classic power to the workers stuff.

How’d you die?

Actually Existing Socialism

It’s copetalk for Tankies to decide what is actual socialism and what is not. They believe China, Cuba, and Vietnam are all actually socialist. You can give them Cuba and Vietnam, but China? Hardly

Technically capitalism also requires death to operate, it’s just far more subtle in how it’s done, like not gassing people in chambers but rather trying to strip resources from people until they starve. That’s why fascism and capitalism are related and fascism is what pops up at the end of capitalism, because the goals are similar, to have certain people more powerful than others, it’s just capitalism abstracts it with money and the theoretical freedom of the system vs fascism which just points a gun at your head and blows your brains all over the wall. In communism it’s not the theoretical goal of the system, but rather a symptom of corruption as the leaders long for a system similar to fascism or capitalism in terms of power for the top.

You do realise that you’re also describing communism, yeah? Imperialism is the core component here, it doesn’t care if it’s communist or capitalist.

I don’t think the US has ever actually had democracy.

Also why would you die if you were in the UK? And while we’re at it, what’s your main hexbear account? I’m curious.

omg he’s still following you? what’d you do to trigger him so much?

I don’t think communism or capitalism are inherently violent or have killed more. You can have communism and capitalism without killing people. Fascism, though, requires death to operate.

Communism has worked.

I don’t think Europe or Commonwealth nations are ignoring the Epstein rapists. Only the US seems to be doing it.

The rest I don’t know enough about to really have an opinion if it’s a Western narrative or not, especially since you’re using US-defaultism.

And yet dbzer0 insists on federating and unifying with tankies. Oblivious.

Can you find me one conservative community on lemmy?

I’m of the belief that if you want to grow a forum, you need to cater most groups. Otherwise you’ll stagnate and die.