Picking a fight with Hasan Piker while midterms are gearing up is the dumbest fucking idea. The consultant class really is a problem when it comes to meaningful change. (TikTok screencap)
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did someone draw the teeth in paint?
I don’t like Hasan Piker and I think he was actively damaging in 2024 (not that he swinged the election, but he sure didn’t help). However, shouldn’t we be trying to build bridges right now since the left has been bulkanized so hard? The right can unify against the left but apparently the left can’t do the same…
hes a grifter though, thats why i dont think he represents the left, hes very wealthy as his family, and he was literally handed a job by CENK.
I agree that he’s a grifter, but the establishment attacking Hasan directly like this does nothing but divide the left more than we already are. How about we drive the fascists out of our government first before we do blood sports within our side? All this does is ensure Hasan’s fans who would otherwise vote Democrat will probably consider not voting at all once again despite this being perhaps the most important midterms within our lifetimes
He is trying to build bridges. But the establishment Democrats are terrified of more Zohrans popping up in the Democratic Party.
Hasan Derangement Syndrome. It’s not just the consultant class that’s to blame, the DNC is just as infested by corporate interest and PACs as the Republicans. The average Democrat rep’s platform does not align with the average Democratic voter’s priorities. Hasn’t for a long time.
Liaison and Party Harmony: In the primary campaign your opposition is Jack Hopeful, a member of your own party. Never forget that you will need the support of all your party after the primary and never let your supporters forget it!
This is a very touchy, difficult matter, particularly in a volunteer organization. You are certain to have loyal supporters who are simple souls, unable to think in terms other than black and white. To them Jack Hopeful is the ENEMY - they will commit excesses through misguided zeal. So also will some of Mr. Hopeful’s supporters. Bad blood breeds more bad blood; in short order you can have a situation which is completely out of hand, which splits the party wide open, and which will render it impossible for your man to win in the finals.
Since the nomination is valueless in itself, being merely a necessary means to an end, you must prevent this at all costs.
–Robert A. Heinlein, Take Back Your Government
That’s only true if someone loses. Cancel culture is gone, so outrage is just extra engagement and free advertising.
I’m not saying it’s a good thing, but it’s a reasonable strategy in the cesspool of a cultural climate we have now.
Not that I think this is actually strategic, just lookin on the brightside.
Fucking purity testing bullshit, fully functional and operational at the highest levels. The left will purity test itself into extinction if it doesn’t realize it’s happening.
I don’t expect purity but I expect the ability to self-reflect and grow when personal behaviors are questioned by others who share a substantial amount of your world views. Instead of exploring his relationship with his dog (owner/accessory), he doubled down and his fanbase closed ranks to defend a behavior a lot of people find abhorrent. Treating animals like property and setting unrealistic expectations for their compliance while you use them as a backdrop is not a leftist virtue. A loyal audience is not there to normalize abusive behavior and run with the narrative “any questioning of what happened is a right wing attempt to undermine him”. A person can talk all the talk they want, if their walk doesn’t match the tone and they cannot accept that their views may occasionally need growth, fuck ‘em. We don’t need leftist demagogues, we need leaders and speakers with character who aren’t afraid to confront themselves and their beliefs.
Precisely. The right will vote for anyone no matter how terrible they are and we’re busy self defeating.
Hasan continues to be an effective litmus test.
Like, if in 2026 you’re responding to the call to actively take time and energy out to hate on Hasan, you’re squarely an anti-leftist.
The guy who still refuses to admit that Kamala would’ve been a better choice than Trump?
People talked about his dog for longer than we talked about the 100+ children the US slaughtered a few weeks ago
Yeah, I’ve thought Hasan was a tankie for a while, but joining the shithead neo feudalists in dogpiling him is a terrible idea. Those fuckers are controlled opposition for the fascist oligarchs, and when it comes to fighting fascists you cannot be picky in your allies.
I think it’s a bit much to say that someone who doesn’t like Hasan is an anti-leftist. I’ll stand by my brothers and sisters in the fight for equality for all but I’m also of the opinion that Hasan is a bit of a douche who probably does more harm than good for the left in the US. I would encourage you to not box out potential allies because of a silly disagreement over a Twitch streamer
You’re agreeing with them. They said nothing about people who don’t like Hasan. From what I’ve seen, I don’t like him.
They talked about people actively being against him. This is boxing out potential allies. This is what you’re against, so you’re agreeing with the comment above.
More harm than good is crazy, that guy is probably one of the biggest influences in the country in terms of getting leftists to the polls. I think most legitimate criticisms of Hasan just come down to not liking his personality.
Not liking is one thing. It’s another thing to take the next step and put energy into attacking Hasan. As in: the active practice of boxing out Hasan and any fans of Hasan.
Mobilize them to do what? Not vote?
The opposite, vote in primaries and try to get people on the ballot worth voting for
Thats the key, if you dont get exactly what you want in the primaries, what do you do?
If there’s no one worth voting for, don’t vote. My disagreements with the candidate I vote for should be about, like, whether billionaires should be taxed at 90% or 95%, not whether or not we should murder a bunch of school children for Israel. There’s a difference between not voting for someone because they’re not exactly what you wanted, and not voting for someone because they’re a war criminal.
Biden had four fucking years to put Trump in jail. Four years to release the Epstein files before Trump got sharpie all over them. Four years to give us healthcare and raise the minimum wage. Instead we got first amendment violations, some infrastructure funding, and an assurance that evangelical christians could spend the next four years trying to bring about the end of the world. I’m not ashamed that I voted for Harris or Biden, but I would not vote for them again. I’ll vote for a party that would fight Republicans, not BLAST them with mean words. If that party is the democrats, great. If not, then I’m not voting democrat. I’ll write in Abraham Lincoln’s Reanimated Corpse before I vote Newsom.
If there’s no one worth voting for, don’t vote.
It’s always worth voting for the non-fascist option.
So we can have a different, even worse fascist in four years? Aren’t you tired of settling for “not as evil?” You can say something like “but if Republicans win they’ll make sure that no leftist ever wins again,” but voting blue no matter who got us here, with a republican who’s doing his best to make sure no leftist ever wins again.
voting blue no matter who got us here,
Well, no. Because Trump was elected. Twice. If people had “voted blue not matter who”, we would have had Clinton, a shitty Dem and not a progressive, but NOT. TRUMP. And again with Harris, who would have been much better than TRUMP.
The time to fight and the place to fight is NOT the general US election, but everywhere else - primaries, and beyond.
But when it comes to the general election, the choice is FASCISM or NOT FASCISM for now, sot he choice is clear.
I used to agree, but now I don’t. In the general election, the choice is between FASCISM NOW or FASCISM LATER. We’ve been signalling to the democratic party that fascism later is fine for years now, and we need to start signalling to them that it’s not.
Let’s say Harris wins 2024. What would she do to prevent the next republican from being just as bad as, if not worse than, current Trump? Voting blue no matter who means never getting a progressive candidate. Why on earth would the democrats run a progressive when they can run a conservative, knowing you’ll vote for anyone with a D next to their name?
Also… What primaries should we be fighting in when they don’t have one?
This was the most efficiently I have ever proven my point in my whole career of arguing with people on the internet.
It was not very long ago that I would have left comments exactly like this. I hope the disillusionment hits you soon. We can’t have a better future as long as we’re willing to put up with the present.
Any article, or does OP just imagine everyone here knows what the fuck this is about and who this person is?
Walter? Yes.
Considering how much American politics seeps through online spaces you’d have to be living under a political rock to not know who Hasan Piker is. He’s one of the biggest leftist, like actually leftist not “neoliberal leftist”, political commentator online. As for what the meme is referencing, it’s this.
I think I’ve heard the name a few times, but never bothered to watch or look up much about him. Only political “influencers” or whatever I watch are Big Joel and (I guess technically) Stephanie Sterling.
Who is the guy in the picture and why did his tiktok get screen capped though?
That’s Walter Masterson, a comedian and satirist that produces a lot of progressive content. He does stunts like going to republican rallies to mock their political rhetoric.
Oh, that I have no fucking clue. I just assumed that’s a random nobody in the image and the person we’re talking about is the referenced “Twitch Streamer”, Hasan Piker.
I rarely even hear his name
I’m going to guess, and I may be wrong, that a lot of people who would vote for the US Dems have no idea who he is. I didn’t until the last year, though I’ve lived outside of the US for a decade now
He’s hugely popular with people under 30 as far as politics goes. He is turning on an entire generation towards politics while also acting as an alternative to Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate.
So you can imagine the kind of threat he poses.
Same, haven’t heard of him and moved away for nearly a decade. Just the dog shocking memes.
Good if he’s mobilizing young people to vote I guess? But I don’t really trust any of the political YouTube people in general - seems there’s too much money involved to not be biased.
What is going on in here? Most of the comments are blue maga.
No kidding!
Some of these comments are unhinged. We’re drowning in a sea of fascism and folks are still doing purity tests and believing BS from right wing sources.
Picking a fight with Hasan Piker
Dude is insanely problematic…
Saying the party should toss values aside and just shut up and accept him because he’s twitch famous is fucking wild.
He’s a fucking nepo baby that got famous working for his genocide denying uncle. If he held half the values he claims to, he wouldnt have a multimillion dollar mansion and spend all his time raising his “brand awareness”.
Like, for people who actually listen to this douche, take a second and think about what you hear more about:
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The candidate he’s supposed to be helping here
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How Hasan is smarter and knows more than any politician
You little fuckers are falling for the same grift boomers did with trump
Care to elaborate on those supposed values us supporters are throwing aside?
Normally when someone asks a question, you’re more likely to get your question answered if you answer theirs first.
This is a part of basic social interaction often taught in preschool:
Like, for people who actually listen to this douche, take a second and think about what you hear more about:
The candidate he’s supposed to be helping here
How Hasan is smarter and knows more than any politician
You asked a question? Looks to me like you just made assumptions and spouted off about how smart you are, ironic really. Classic pot and kettle, which is always funny. Hasan isn’t perfect, but the dude has way more good takes than bad ones. I’m guessing he flamed you once and you’ve had a vendetta since?
I do want to congratulate you on not using any slurs this time.
Still comes off like how trump supporters talk tho, you’re not fooling anyone.
And I’m definitely not going to be able to explain the intricacies of the English language here, even if I was willing.
Good shit my guy. Username checks out.
Timing is problematic. Somehow everyone comes out against him right away? Right after he takes medical aid to Cuba? This has Bernie 2016 vibes to it. Gotta kill the progressive momentum before it gets too big.
lol
oh yeah hasan is just like bernie
lol
Two people can suck at once. Maybe even three or more.
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Point proven!
well, they get payed by the same people, so they serve the same interest
*paid
The only thing I know about that Hassan guy is that he uses a shock collar on his dog. Thought that was what he was best known for after all the memes
Wasn’t that fake
Yep. Hasan’s hate machine still runs with it anyway, since he draws kids away from the groypers and manosphere shit. They’re reliant on the lack of scrutiny.
Nope, people proved it was a shock collar by finding the exact model when he tried briefly showing it on camera to supposedly prove that it wasn’t.
But, that’s all I ever heard about him. And partially from all the memes generated. I just assumed he was another American neoliberal talking head. But from reading comments here I guess he’s supposed to be a famous leftist?..
