Former Fox News host Megyn Kelly ripped into some of the most vocal supporters of Donald Trump’s war in Iran, listing the names of people she said pushed him into the conflict.
“Stop with that ‘it’s President Trump’s decision.’ I’m aware, but someone talked him into it, and those people should be held to account,” Kelly said on Friday’s episode of her show. “As this thing goes south, we need to know exactly who talked him into it, and what representations were made to convince the president that this was a good idea. Who? Who, specifically?”
The podcaster is one of a few conservative personalities, including Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, who have publicly opposed Trump’s war. An NBC News poll from earlier this month revealed that 90% of self-identified MAGA-aligned Republican voters support the war, while a majority of voters overall oppose it.
I seriously doubt Trump was pushed, he just wasn’t talked out of it.
BTW, allegations that Mark Levin has a micropenis are completely unfounded.
The mohel went full hog
Megan Kelly should be shipped off on an ice float, like 8 years ago
So the people that convinced him are 100% at fault? He’s 0% at fault? That how we’re mathing that? So you’re saying that he’s a brainless baby that just agrees to whatever shit the last ass kisser said to him? Well at least we agree on that.
This war has been bipartisan policy for 40 years. Trump is the symptom, not the disease.
Not sure about it being bipartisan but Republicans have been pushing for this war since Regan. Be it the time Regan’s admiration sunk the entire Iranian navy, to whether Bush administration wanted to put them on the same level as North Korea, to John McCain singing the bomb Iran song during his presidential bid you can see it everywhere. Democrats probably wouldn’t oppose it, as we can kind of see, but they haven’t shown much spine for any decision popular or unpopular for decades now.
Yeah, I clarify when I mention trump, I’m talking about his whole admin, it’s just easier to say trump.
Is Benjamin Netanyahu on the list?
spoiler
Rhetorical question ofc
Putin should be there too.
lol yes, the diabolical genius plan of getting the stable genius to … attack his largest ally!
JFC
Here, print this out and just keep it in your wallet.
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Here’s a fascinating insight into the MAGA mind:
It’s never “How do we fix this or make it better?”, it’s always “Who do we blame and how much can we hurt them?”
At least the hate cannon is priming for blue-on-blue this time.
This could be seen pretty early on in The Apprentice.
The show quickly established that the board meetings would be a pile-on the project leader session everytime with the project leader flailing to fling shit at anyone else in the room hoping something would stick to someone.
It was fascinating and messy. But damn, it was entertaining at the time.
I’m just holding everyone who voted for trump in 24 responsible. By that stage nobody could legitimately claim ignorance, they knew what they were doing.
The majority of them don’t care about politics, they just always vote red because they always do and their families have convinced them Democrats are evil.
The majority of Americans are very dumb and have no self worth, so it helps them to attach their identity to someone else with power. That’s why so many horrible celebrities and athletes are famous and also the reason they like trump so much.
No point in trying to talk to them, they are honestly too stupid to understand.
Agreed. Heard a quote a while back, don’t remember it verbatim but it was something along the lines of “there’s no point in trying to make someone understand when they’ve already made up their mind to not understand.” Makes a lot of sense, and having that mindset saves a lot of frustration. Doesn’t matter how many facts you shove in their faces, they’re not going to change their minds.
I suspect that a majority of those who voted for Bush (both of them), also voted for Trump; and a majority of those who voted for Trump will vote for a Republican president who will be about as stupid, pro-billionaire, anti-Freedom, and pro-war as Bush and Trump were/was/is.
I agree with you, but that’s 77 million people. How are you gonna hold them responsible? And I ask sincerely, because something’s gotta be done with those assholes. I’d accept them just learning from their mistakes and changing their behavior, but, man, I do not see that happening. I hope it does. I hope to god it does, but I’d be lying if I said I was optimistic about it. And if they won’t listen to reason, like, what can we do?
That’s the big question for greater minds than my own. There was a time not too long ago when it was almost universally agreed that fascist authoritarianism and genocide were horrible, and people who subscribed to those ideals did so secretly because it was shameful. Now there are proud supporters of Nazism, and people being openly racist, bigoted, and hateful. Getting our society back to the point where those people at least hid in shame would be a good start. Of course it doesn’t make it go away, as we’re seeing right now, but there is no way to truly eradicate this type of thinking. As you said, you can’t forcibly educate those who are resistant to it, and anything beyond that gets into “thought police” territory.
I don’t know what sort of societal engineering that would take, or who would be in charge of it. I think we were all kind of relying on the fact that most people are overall inherently decent enough to instinctively oppose that kind of shit, but it turns out we were wrong.
…indoctrinated masses are the intended and natural result of their propaganda machine; you don’t redress readily-manipulated people by punishing or culling them, you do so by snuffing their propaganda and educating the population…
…the elephant in the room is freedom of communication…
you don’t redress readily-manipulated people by punishing or culling them
I certainly didn’t mean to imply that we should do that. I definitely don’t think we should.
you do so by snuffing their propaganda and educating the population…
Yeah, but education can’t be imposed on people. Not without violence and repression, anyway. They have to be willing to learn, and the Trump supporters I know are some of the most defiantly, proudly ignorant and misinformed people I’ve ever known.
But maybe the right leader could change that. I don’t know.
Concentration camps. They conveniently already built them.
Denaturalize them. They were cool doing it to others so let them experience the same.
Serious answers only, please.
Oh I’m serious as a heart attack. If we get through this those fuckers need to pay dearly.
Yeah how the fuck are you seriously proposing deporting tens of millions of people. How could that ever possibly happen
Don’t be a clown
I’m just holding everyone who voted for trump in 24 responsible
What’s the sentence, your honor?
My eternal contempt and loathing.
Follow this same logic and apply it to the 2020 election and the Palestinian genocide and I’m on board with you.
At the end of the day. All Americans are responsible for the crimes of this country regardless of who you voted for. We all allow the war machine to keep bombing brown kids thousands of miles away and have the nerve to call ourselves a “Democracy” and start to care about the crimes of the president only when we can use it to distance ourselves from them. “I didn’t vote for them” becomes “Israel has a right to defend itself” or “Iran actually was gonna nuke us” when the guy you voted for is in office.
But, go ahead, explain to me how much worse Iran is than Gaza. How the war machine doesn’t keep on pumping no matter who you vote for. Is it because gas prices didn’t go up during THAT slaughter of children?
Edit: Lots of downvotes with no responses. Sorry reality made you feel bad.
I do. In fact, I have very little forgiveness for anyone who was stupid or shitty enough to even vote for him in 16. Pretty much anyone who has voted republican since the tea party got loud gets no respect from me. What happened, and is still happening, in Gaza, as well as the international response to it, is disgusting and shameful to our entire species. But one could make the case that standing impotently by while a country you support commits atrocities is still different from jumping in at the start to commit those atricites yourself on behalf of that country.
“The buck stops with whomever told me to do it!”
“He’ll believe anything you tell him, so it’s not his fault.” That famous conservative accountability I’ve heard so much about.
“It’s not Trump’s fault, he’s a gullible idiot” argument
Ah yes, the reverse Nuremberg defense, admitting it wasn’t the chief but in fact you.
So… He’s either incompetent or intentionally malicious. Those are all of the options. Either way, he should be standing trial for high crimes against the Unites States and its allies.
His voters do find him relatable…
Every single Republican is a fucking traitor
A traitor to whom? The billionaire class quite literally owns all the property.
By not supporting the reigning despots, it’s liberals and leftists who are definitionally the traitors.
The people ruling the county aren’t on your side. They are your enemies.
I don’t think anyone here is conflating traitor with “doesn’t support the government”. A traitor is someone who betrays the nation; one who actively undermines the security of the country. Not National Security™, but rather actively working against the thing liberals call freedom and democracy.
The government belongs to and serves the people, not the other way around. The traitors are currently hijacking the government for their own ends and no one seems willing to do anything to stop them.
The government belongs to and serves the people
It clearly doesn’t. Any amount of time interacting with a police officer should tell you as much.
Which why it needs to be fixed.
An NBC News poll from earlier this month revealed that 90% of self-identified MAGA-aligned Republican voters support the war
The “no new wars” group are almost fully supportive of this because Dear Leader told them so. So pathetic it’s sad.
So what she’s saying he’s dumb as fuck and got tricked? That isn’t better! Fucking morons
They never admit his wrongdoings. Ask your conservative relative if any human is infallible. Then ask if Trump is infallible. Then ask why they can never say it out loud when Trump does anything wrong. (Apart from social media use, that’s their go-to.)
Ok, they can be held to account too, but this news absolutely doesn’t exonerate Trump from blame since he’s listened to them and he’s president. It’s his decision to make and him being stupid enough to listen doesn’t mean he’s not culpable.
