• vga@sopuli.xyzOP
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    The person who is ultimately responsible for almost all of it denounces it. My irony meter collapsed into a black hole.

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      In order to not get the “meter collapsed”, some do suggest to actually not trust news as the raw source, where every single word in line is designed for its specific reader. Regardless the amount of true intel inside, everyone will see its own, and behind the lines, too.

      In this case, I would suggest to actually personally investigate more about the situation from Russian’s, Ukraine’s, US’s, and yours country government’s side, without relying on “news” you seem to doing much, sorry. Please do consider the presence of Overton windows and opportunities to manipulate the flow of reader/nation decisions.

      Politics rarely create friendships, if compared to business benefits in long term, unfortunately.

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        If news is so unreliable, the next thing is put your foot on the ground and visit the site and talk to people. Nobody have time for that, and i highly doubt you did any of that.

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          I did not ever initiate any such discussions, but expressed my opinions in comments only suggesting people to do their actual research. If they would, they would not say a word knowing how it’s all unobvious and intervened, where every single action is done with utter seriousness of calculation of required political, social, economical outcomes.

          Yes, I did step on fields, with numerous colleagues I share my gratitude, support, and love to. Please do stay safe, dear every single Hero…
          This is me:

          Still alive

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        Putin is responsible of Trump having any kind of power. And many other kinds of destabilizations around the globe.

        Also, he has continuously shown over the last decades that not following international law is a-ok.

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          Putin may even have allowed Trump to invade Iran, to increase oil prices to save the Russian economy.

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          he has continuously shown over the last decades that not following international law is a-ok.

          Without Putin, the US wouldn’t have invaded Iraq and wouldn’t have created Guantanamo and wouldn’t keep sanctioning Cuba. /s

          Blaming Russia for American transgressions is a very sad display of dillusion. Take your time but try to face the possibility that those Facebook ads were a drop in the bucket of the CNN daily Trump bad news attention and the Fox News entertainment.

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            Thank you… heartfelt… for an actually mature and adequate attempt for rationalization of the state of events…
            Unfortunately, it seems the propaganda and children raising through local movies and socials with history retelling is too deep… some just do not care and consume, sorry, what they got used to and were raised with - lies, to the point they deny anything unmatching.

            His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.
            ~ Walter C. Langer

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            The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.
            ~ Joseph Goebbels

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            History is always changing behind us, and the past changes a little every time we retell it.
            ~ Hilary Mantel

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            yes, and the destabilization that has led to this opportunity can be traced back to Russia’s invasion of UA in 2014.

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              Reasons I see that this happened now:

              • Trump cares less about international law than any US president in modern history
              • He needed a distraction from other issues that were tanking his numbers
              • Most of the proxy powers that Iran would normally use to respond to attacks on their soil have been destroyed or neutered
              • Mossad probably has some blackmail material on Trump and pressured him into attacking (this last point is speculation)

              These are certainly not all direct results of Russia’s meddling in Ukraine.

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        Putin is responsible for the Iran war?

        He invested $100,000 in Facebook ads which got Trump elected. /s And it’s Trump who ordered the strike on Iran.

        It’s increadible how many people believe that Russia could outwit the US propaganda machine.

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    Finally (/s), something I agree with Putin on. I feel like we are getting so close to full on WWIII, between this, Russian’s War on Ukraine, Pakastan and Afghanistan and the Palestinian genicide going on. And that is the stuff I can mention off the top of my head.

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    Well, I’m sure there are no other people planning on taking out world leaders and using the US’s actions as a defense.