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I mean, it was probably the support for genocide, the absence of a primary, and not taking people’s complaints and anxieties about the economy/affordability seriously that lost her the election more than dissatisfaction with her laugh.
bro people didn’t even know she was running. Definitely the lesser of two evils but just dumb as fuck campaign, makes the controlled opposition thing sound real
If only America weren’t so racist and sexist. We could have had a woman President declare war on Iran. Nine years ago, even. Harris and Clinton. Two missed opportunities to empower women everywhere.
Timeless
I do not subscribe to any of the petty reasons why conservatives dislike Harris.
I worked for the DOJ under her. My reasons for disliking her are grounded in reason. I have never worked in a bigger shitshow department than when I worked for the DOJ under Harris.
Still working in the DOJ under Trump?
No, but this is California we’re talking about so I’m not sure much has changed since Trump became president.
Interesting that Vice President Harris must hold the blame for both eras of regional bureaucracy in such a historically well run and not at all clownish organization.
I’m talking about when she was the AG — I should have said, and I acknowledge this was my mistake, I hold both her and Newsom accountable for the absolute lack of accountability in the California DOJ. I didn’t think I had to point out that I was talking about her time as AG, but here we are.
I think assuming that everyone knows you meant the 2011-2017 Californian DOJ by saying DOJ while talking about the 2024 national elections is the most Californian thing I’ve ever heard.
Who gives a fuck about her laugh? Talk about complete inability to self reflect, learn, and grow. Dems are truly a lost cause.
Maybe go hug on some Cheneys if you’re gonna get upset and cry about it.
Liberals won’t learn that nobody gives a shit about her laugh. This is not why she lost.
Reasons people didn’t vote for her, in descending order of significance, as measures by number of votes lost.
Being a woman Being black Working with Biden Punishing Biden / Dems Actual personality Actual policy
To paraphrase Richard Nixon “Computers may be ten times smarter than they were in the 60s, but the average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever”
Jesus, Nixon was an idiot. Computers don’t get “smarter.”
You failed to list her support for fascist Israel, her money from billionaires, and her attachment to Joe Biden’s policies and their relation to the economy. Face it, she was a status quo liberal and we’re past that IMO. The people were never going to vote for Joe 2.0. Joe fucked up big time too. He didn’t help his case by dropping out at the last minute. I know a lot of folks that were pissed the DNC skipped primaries even given the time constraint.
I say all this and I still voted for her. I won’t make the same mistake voting for these liberals again though. The meta has changed. Trump has changed everything.
How do people not realize that Kamala Harris was wildly unpopular back in the 2020 election. She never won a single primary despite running for president twice.
Ronald Reagan came third in the 1968 Republican primary, didn’t run in 1972, and came second in 1976. If you were writing this in the late 1970s you’d be arguing that Ronald Reagan was wildly unpopular because he’d never won a single primary despite running for president twice. Whatever you think of his legacy (and I think he’s responsible for a lot of the worst parts of the last half century) he was wildly popular as president.
Was Harris popular? Not especially. But, the issue wasn’t her laugh. Aside from being non-white and non-male, she was also running as a pro-establishment candidate at a very anti-establishment time. Trump’s absolute destruction of the establishment will go down as history as the point at which the US really started to self-destruct. It shows how good the status quo actually was for a lot of things Americans take for granted. But, the message that “everything is fine, I’m just going to continue with existing policies” was the absolute wrong one to use.
I agree. Harris was a Glass cliff candidate who’s entire purpose was to sacrifice herself to further the party line. Fascism didn’t win the 2024 election, neoliberalism lost, just like it is losing across Europe where it is dressed up as cis-het white males like Starmer and Macron. But because an afro-indian woman was the face of neoliberalism here instead of her cis-het running mate, liberals can blame racism and misogyny instead of looking at their fundamentally evil and unpopular beliefs.
I don’t think she was meant as a glass cliff candidate. This wasn’t an election that they knew they were going to lose. I think they thought she was their best hope at that late stage in the election cycle. Maybe they were right, and there weren’t any better candidates who had a chance given how little time there was. Maybe not. But, this isn’t like the typical case like say the 1984 election where Walter Mondale was sent out to compete with an extremely popular Ronald Reagan.
Merc like the merc?
I guess so.
There is a streamer, former army vet, who streams protest coverage under the handle "merc’
Ah, merc is a very common nickname / handle.
Guys, no matter whether your a shitlib or an Marxist or an anarchist or whathaveyou we’re all left-“half” at least. You/the online left need to realize it really is that simple for everyone who isn’t somewhere on the left half of the spectrum, and there are tons of closet/unconscious racists.
The other half of the entire spectrum votes and they get the results that they want even if there’s an occasional fly in the ointment. They bully to get the most out of their engagement.
If you voted for Trump or nonvoted because of Kamala’s laugh you’re certifiably an insane person.
If you didn’t vote on the candidate that was less right-wing than the further right-wing candidate, I sympathize, but that was a mistake. Enjoy your war.
So how do you explain Kamala Harris getting 6 million less votes than Biden and Clinton while Trump had the same number of votes in all e elections? The Democrats forced an unpopular candidate who ran on how great the economy was doing at a time when most of the voter base couldn’t afford rent and groceries. Her missing voters weren’t leftists, they were disenfranchised, apolitical, workers that thought no one was representing their interests and sat it out. You don’t know how I voted, and even if you did, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that I live in a state that she lost by over 10 points. The Democrats decided they would rather cater to non-existent “moderates” instead of helping people. You want to blame people for not voting how you wanted instead of blaming the Democrats for running a terrible campaign.
Really interesting stuff here. Let’s see.
All 6 million of those people made an ego-driven mistake without real consideration of the lives that would be affected, and ended, by choosing wrongly. 800k deaths from USAID being cut alone for instance. Or how dragging minorities off the street is normalized now. I keep reading about concentration camps. Where I live. Did you or your 5,999,999 partisans and nonvoters even stop to consider their lives before you hit that Witcher-style no-such-thing-as-lesser-evil bullshit? Or were/are they just pawns to you? How about the picture I saw of Gaza that looks like the litter in a litter box because there’s nothing solid left? You think Netanyahu didn’t allow October 7th to happen when his intelligence knew it was imminent? Benjamin Netanyahu picked your vote for you, because the Israelis know swathes of American “leftists” are irony-poisoned stuck up assholes who don’t consider human life valuable over engagement farming. You were played because you were gullible to put it mildly.
I don’t care how you voted and neither do you. Our calculus for decision making is fundamentally different because you care about ideological purity and I care about human life and dignity. I also live in a state Kamala lost for what it’s rhetorically worth. We were gerrymandered, so our vote never made a difference. The rest of you willingly relinquished yours.
You’ve again attacked leftists while failing to address the fact thar Harris lost 6 million votes while running on the exact same platform as Biden…You again fail to understand that Kamala didn’t lose because 6 million leftists felt she wasn’t ideologically pure, she lost because 6 million people that voted for Clinton and Biden felt that she wasn’t going to do anything to make their lives better, because the Democrats spent 4 years show they only cared about their wealthy donors. The average voter doesn’t know shit other than how easy their life feels. And things have been hard for the past 5 years. The Democrats were saying everything was great and Trump was saying everything is awful and he would make it right. I think only the true believers actually took Trump at face value, but they could see that the Democrats had no intention of making their lives better so they sat it out. Voters only care about their own needs, and they know that the Democrats only care about their rich donors so they saw no reason to get out and vote. There are not 6 million electorial leftists in the US that sat out the election, it was 6 million apolitical workers who saw no reason to vote for either candidate that was going to make their lives worse.
And even if you are right and the Democrats abandoning all progressive policies the favor of gaining Cheney sympathetic Republicans lead to leftists not supporting Harris, doesn’t that mean they made the wrong play regardless? Clearly the Democrats needed the left to win elections if that was the case, in which case telling their main voting block to go fuck themselves was a massive mistake. Almost as bad as telling 110,000 Muslims in swing state that they have to accept genocide against their fellow believers. And spoiler alert, Netanyahu started the action against Gaza because he knew Biden and the Democrats would support him. All Biden had to do was say he would cut all military aid and the genocide would have stopped the next day. But he wouldn’t. And neither would his VP who ultimately lost the election. She was a Glass cliff candidate.
No matter how you slice it, the Democrats made the wrong play and demanding people fall in line and support atrocities and allowingbthe rich to get richer is the wrong move.
Edit: on top of that, the Democrats voted to give ICE billions more in funding last month. The Democrats support everything Trump is doing, they just wish he would do it quitly. If you still support the Democrats, then you support ICE, you support the US military actions in Venezuela and Iran, and you support the rich getting richer.
Also, Gerrymandering has nothing to do with presidental elections and the fact that Harris lost your state by a million votes. Please learn a single thing about how elections and political science works before responding to me again.
Who tf thinks Kamala’s problem was her laugh and not everything else?
Kamala’s problem was her gender. Americans are so misogynist that they elected Trump twice out of three times he ran.
The twitter-exiled, well-to-do turbolibs who comprise the mainstay of BlueSky’s (non furry porn generating) user base.
They don’t believe in anything other than identity politics, and being morally righteous, while accomplishing less than nothing.
I actually thought this was a general reference to the inherent stupidity of racism.
I get your point, but still think this is more of a jab at super racist MAGA people.
Nah Kamala is a fucking shady asshole, thats why people didnt vote for her.
Well, I for one am glad that we avoided having shady people in the Oval Office…
Holy whataboutism. Nothing absolves here of the shitty things she has done. The lesser evil ideology is why Trump is the current US president.
If the goal was to keep Kamala out of the office, the goal was achieved. If the goal was to keep the shadiest asshole out, it failed in a manner that would be laughable if it wasn’t so horrible. If the goal was to not vote for shady people, well, how did that solve the problem of shady people in power? That isn’t whataboutism, it is merely pointing out facts.
There was one way to get Harris into office: she had to change her stance on genocide.
There was one way to keep Trump out of office, and it wasn’t sitting on your hands.
being a shady asshole is the route to the Presidency, do you not see who was elected ?
There’s another aspect to it. The message changes considerably depending on the audience.
For bigger context Kamala just endorsed Jasmine Crockett over James Talarico for a Texas senate race, so we’re seeing a big racial push this week about how this whole choosing a white guy over a black woman is a you problem and nothing to do with policy or anything.
That’ll be fucking interesting. Just hearing about the endorsement from you. My thinking is that anytime a candidate who failed as spectacularly as Harris did, when they endorse, that’s like, the mierdas touch, and anything the get near turns to shit.
Surprisingly unsurprising that Harris would endorse the emptier of the two suits.
I’m also glad this elect is happening quickly so we won’t have to wait long or speculate about the outcome.
I love “mierdas touch”.
No it’s a jab at perceived anti genocide voters
People who thought it was important that Harris continuing support for Israel while they were conducting a genocide.
Trump’s problem isn’t that he’s a white man. His problem is he’s a narcissitic conservative pedo monster.
Previously unseen levels of burying the lede here. Truly a generational run by those unwilling to hold those in power accountable for their lack of action.
Previously unseen
I mean, is it?
Actually, under Kamala the neoliberal policies were strangling American and working class finances. Trump is a smash and grab that will bring the system down on top of it and have a solid 5 years of rebuilding. He’s guaranteed progressive policies stick out as unique and different from the normal capital forward ideals of the 20th century.
Both would have caused suffering but Trump is the change to the system that people need. I hate him but can’t deny he has galvanized the country against him and highlighted how corrupt and complicit the news media is in helping these events gain momentum.
The right may have hated their vegetables but they are choking on their meal and we could all die together but if we don’t then we will have a lot better experience on how to move forward. Like post Nazi Germany. The country is still around. The people are still around. The society is still around. The embarrassment of the 1930s is not. America will follow suit and eventually be ok.
