The Minnesota governor unexpectedly announced this month that he wouldn’t run for re-election.
Walz had said this month that he would not seek re-election as governor — sending shock waves through state and national politics — but he did not go so far as to say he would not consider another elected position down the line.
In explaining his decision Wednesday, Walz talked about the scenes unfolding in Minneapolis between residents and federal officers. He said he found that there are “heroes on the streets that we don’t know their names.”
“They’re never going to run for office, and those grass-tops leaders brought this administration to their knees this week to do something about it. So there’s other ways to serve, and I’ll find them,” he said.
I mean, even if he didn’t, will I cry about it? Not really. Especially considering his debate with JD Vance exposed him as moderate right wing at best
These two lines literally contradict each other… Who the fuck wrote this? Which one is correct, because they can’t both be?
Its a little confusing. At the start of the month he said he’s not running for gov again but would consider other elected offices. Now he is saying hes not running for any elected offices. Reading the full article clears it up.
The paragraph right before says, on Wednesday, he told MSNOW that he wouldn’t run for office again.
The me that you highlighted is something he said earlier this month.
So, he wasn’t running for gov earlier this month, but didn’t say if we would run for something else. Now, he says he won’t run for an elected office ever again.
— I didn’t notice this when I first read it. You pointed out the wording so I had to go back and read it very carefully to catch all that. It’s definitely written in an odd way and is confusing.
ITT: people failing reading comprehension.
Good. He is peacetime material, not fit to protect a state from fascism.
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i’m trying to upvote harder… i’m so glad to read this.
I feel like a ton of comment in this room are missing the point. Him choosing to not run changes the calculus for how he handles the rest of his term and where he puts his efforts.
Endorsing someone else takes significantly less effort than running for reelection yourself and it makes the opposition have to do actual work rather than just pointing at his recent failings.
Politically/tactically this is a pretty good move, especially as like others have pointed out, he has given someone else a lot of runway to put a campaign together.
He is probably also personally a factor in the admin targeting Minnesota. Trump/MAGA was really, really outraged by his “weird” shtick during the campaign. Removing himself could be seen as Trump “winning”, and now MAGA is wondering why ICE is still fucking up a state purged of its corruption.
It’s a good move but also makes his current weak actions towards the fraud smear campaign AND ice killings
Too bad. He’s been a pretty good governor. Especially there for Minnesotans when they need him.
Get Jesse Ventura back, he’s been threatening to return to governor. Get him before he becomes too old.
Yes. Long live the gerontocracy.
Has he? Seriously. Last election people kept saying he was returning to run for president as the Green Candidate but as it turned out it was other people that simply wanted him to return as the Green Presidential candidate and were acting as if it were true. He went so far as to publicly declare that he was not going to run for president. Still, every couple of days I saw someone new that said they thought he was gonna be the Green candidate again.
Are we witnessing two different timelines? Walz has done nothing but finger wag.
He has had more of an impact on my life than any other governor I can think of
Junk fee ban is the first one that comes to mind. It’s seemingly small, but impacts so much. I buy things basically every day. Now it’s so much more honest
He’s also reformed the gig work platforms for both workers and users. Not to mention little things like right to cancel for those platforms
Also recreational weed
Not to mention he has maintained a budget surplus. Basic fiscal responsibility that is unfortunately rare in modern America
But he didn’t even implement a Transcendental Post-Capitalist, Non-Hierarchical, Collectivist Socio-Productive, Technologically-Enhanced Communitarian Commonwealth of Inclusive Polycentric Societal praxis… so obviously he did nothing of any really worth.
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He did nothing when fascists murdered his constituents. That overshadows everything else to me.
Yeah, that’s great. Bare minimum stuff if you ask me. I mean, his constituents are being murdered and he hasn’t stopped the people doing it. That’s a major faux pas in my book, but if you’re willing to overlook that, I guess he was a good governor.
Y’know, the Minnesota FOP issued a statement that they back ICE. Seems like Walz recognizes that from an official standpoint he has limited power, if he tried to (say) tell the state police to arrest ICE agents they may just “not find any” or they might openly defy the order. The MN National Guard may or may not respond but they’re also not really equipped for law enforcement operations.
Fact is, governmental power only works if people are following the law, and a lot of our “law enforcement” at every level in this country sees themselves as above the law. So if a civilian official tells them to do something they want to do, all good. If they’re told to do something that could lead to limitations in their power, they’ll at best refuse, at worst they might just remove the civilian leader in question.
if he tried to (say) tell the state police to arrest ICE agents they may just “not find any” or they might openly defy the order.
Okay. Say it anyway. Make them defend themselves in public. I would love to hear them explain why they are defying a direct order from the Minnesota state government.
But also, no, the national guard would side with Minnesota civilians.
This. Minneapolis police are a nightmare and I’m not sure what methods have historically worked for fixing that, but I do know that I have friends who live in neighborhoods that MPD won’t go to, not because they’re dangerous, but because they’re near George Floyd square
I see police in Uptown all the time. WTF are you talking about that police won’t go there?
Uptown? I’m talking Powderhorn. I think we have different definitions for close right now
Say, friend, I realize that there’s this streak of magical thinking a mile wide through American culture. It’s rampant in our stories. The kicker can make a 60-yard field goal, if he Wants It Badly Enough. Some dude can levitate his spacecraft out of the swamp, if he Wants It Badly Enough. A couple of local boys can jump their car over the river, if they Want It Badly Enough. The bumbling sheriff cannot, because he doesn’t Want It Badly Enough.
So is the idea here is that Tim Walz could do something about it, if he only Wanted It Badly Enough? Unfortunately, this is not a movie. He can’t drive them off by sheer force of will. What should he do about it? Grab Paul Bunyon’s axe from the state warehouse where it’s stored, and charge through the streets of Minneapolis brandishing it? Anything he could do boils down to one of two things: Talk (executive orders, legislation, telephone calls to [REDACTED]), or direct, physical action. The former, you dismiss as finger wagging, and the latter would be met with overwhelming retaliation, getting a lot of people hurt or killed.
In his place, what “something” would you do, that would actually work and not make things worse?
What should he do about it?
Call them pedophiles. Charge the ICE shooters with murder immediately. Deploy the national guard with the directive to protect citizens from ICE. And harass the administration with lawsuits.
All of these actions would be effective. All of these actions would be supported by the people he represents. This would, unironically, catapult him into international stardom.
Minnesota prosecutors would like to press charges, but the regime is protecting Ross; it hasn’t identified the agents who shot Pretti, and is obstructing MN investigators. Over here in Wisconsin, we have John Doe proceedings for starting a case without knowing the identity of the defendant, but the reason that’s useful is to use the court’s powers to investigate. In this instance if Minnesota has a similar law, it’d just get a case on the books which couldn’t go anywhere because investigation already is stymied.
Walz has mobilized the National Guard to protect Minnestotans from ICE. However, it’s a fine line, because the NG can be federalized, and anything too aggressive he might do would just see them taken out of his control. Nevermind possibly kicking off the second civil war.
And, Minnesota has filed lawsuits. So that’s three out of four of those things that Walz has already done, to the extent possible. Calling them pedophiles sounds like finger wagging. But maybe it’d all work if he Wanted It Badly Enough?
Jonathan Ross should have been captured as soon as he was identified. Yeah, no shit it’s difficult to get him now.
[the regime] hasn’t identified the agents who shot Pretti
Wow. The regime hasn’t done that? That’s crazy.
it’d just get a case on the books which couldn’t go anywhere
You know, just taking this at face value, I would rather the case be on the books. Getting Democrats to put anything on the books is the first goddamn hurdle, so I’d like to get that out of the way right now.
Walz has mobilized the National Guard to protect Minnestotans from ICE.
He has mobilized them to be nearby. Granted, better than nothing, but this is no aura-farming moment. He is not mounting a resistance.
With how often Walz insists the protests must remain peaceful, and with no indication that he understands the implicit threat of a protest nor where things are going if ICE keeps agitating, my bet, honestly, is that the NG will be utilized to suppress civilian rowdiness, not to protect them. And no, no federalization will be necessary, he will do this himself.
And, Minnesota has filed lawsuits.
Such as?
Bear in mind, if I were in Walz’ position, I would be screaming in press conferences about every lawsuit I was filing every second of every day, but please, inform me.
Calling them pedophiles sounds like finger wagging.
Yeah, so it’s weird that he’s not doing it, huh? Actually, it’s weird the DNC as a whole doesn’t say anything about it. It’s not a lie, after all. The American people has a burning, ferocious, violent, seething hatred for Trump—I for one call him a fat fucking pedophile every time I wake up; it’s the first thing I say to my wife—and yet that’s somehow not reflected in their representatives. Representatives who would rather say things like “let’s abolish this version of ICE.”
I don’t think you have to worry about a civil war, man. The DNC will roll over and ‘stay’ for their little dog treats no matter how many of us are abducted into Alligator Alcatraz.
Ross was spirited away from the scene and hidden away immediately, like before his gun cooled down. There was no opportunity for any MN officials to act.
As for lawsuits, a news search for “Minnesota lawsuit” turns up lots of stories, like this one which talks about the one Ellison filed on the 12th to end the invasion. Courts are slow; they can’t keep up with events on the ground.
Lastly, the DNC is pretty much irrelevant these days. It’s not a surprise; folks here on the Threadiverse have told me that the Democrats aren’t there to fight for us, and we have to make them do what we want. It’s a fascinating and weird mindset, but does appear to be accurate these days. Anyway, this isn’t two teams facing off anymore, and the regime is attacking people directly. It doesn’t matter if the DNC rolls over, the people of Minneapolis aren’t.
Cool post, dork.
Cool enough to make the troll delete their account immediately after this comment…
Amazing work! Another notch in the… computer… desk? Phone case?
Curious, but are you from Minnesota?
I’m not, but I am aware he was able to pass legislation giving all kids in his state free lunch. I’d hardly call that nothing.
Also legislation to provide women’s sanitary products in schools
That’s a good thing. It should not be a major accomplishment. It should be a positive in a myriad of things that the people are asking for.
So, since he hasn’t done literally everything that YOU think he should do, or should be doing- he’s not a good Governor. I feel terrible for anyone that has to put up with your expectations, because geez. One slip-up and you might kill them.
My expectations: When your constituents are being murdered, you stop the people doing the murdering and charge them with murder.
One slip-up and you might kill them.
wtf are you talking about?
Okay, so since he hasn’t been the one to literally start the second Civil War, he sucks. Got it.
Do you need to be from Texas or Florida to think Cruz or Desantis are awful people?
Free lunch is great. They are doing it in other states. If the bare minimum is your high bar, I guess he’s a great governor.
If we didn’t start somewhere, we’d have nothing. You keep fighting for what you care about, others will do the same.
I can agree with that, however when people are being murdered a good leader takes action. I don’t see that here.
Your exact quote was “Walz has done nothing but finger wag”, then someone gives an example of positive legislation he did, and you immediately move the goalposts. Gtfo here with your purity tests.
Enjoy the taste of a nice fascist cock.
He seems like a nice guy and says some good things. Sounds like he was an okay governor. That is, until he refused to protect the citizens of his state from a gang of marauding masked murders. Fuck that guy. We need much better.
I’m not going to say I was Waltz’s biggest fan when he was on the national stage but seemed solid to me and his handling of the Republican attempts at civil war and making the statement he made to get the hell out of the way for new leadership and not cling onto power unlike a lot of his other collogues garners a lot more of my respect.
I hope he follows on his word to help those new leaders and fosters actual change in the party that needs change and a spine.
Walz*
A strong or vocal leader can embolden a populace.
strong or vocal leader
Is that how you perceive him?
Yes, as a Minnesotan that is how I percieve him. It takes a lot to run for VP knowing it’s a longshot, and knowing you’ll likely lose your political career for it
As long as we’re asking leading, loaded questions…
Are you from Minnesota?
What a strange question. Filled with intent
Head line is a lie.
but he did not go so far as to say he would not consider another elected position down the line.
“I will never run for an elected office again. Never again,” Walz, the 2024 Democratic vice presidential nominee, said in an interview with MS NOW.
The context of the line you quoted was from earlier
Walz had said this month that he would not seek re-election as governor — sending shock waves through state and national politics — but he did not go so far as to say he would not consider another elected position down the line.
God damn. I hate all of these upvotes to wrong information. 30 upvotes to the guy who called it a lie, despite it being the first line in the article. Another dozen to posts speculating that he said it earlier.
The quote is from an interview from last night where he also talked about the attack on Omar.
The interviewer even replied “never again?” And he reiterated “never again.”
He called himself a lightning rod for political attack from the right due to running with Kamala, and he didn’t want his people to be punished for it.
Wait - Am I the one you think speculated he said it before?
I just quoted the article saying he had said he wouldn’t run before but hadn’t said at the time he would never run for office and that OP took their quote out of context
No, sorry, not intended at you. I meant to reply to the lie comment. Sorry!
No problem - I didn’t take it that way at first but then I sat down to eat and looked at the thread at large and just wasn’t sure.
I do think my original comment could have been worded more clearly so maybe I was just feeling guilty 😅
I think they are talking about a previous statement of his earlier this month.
“I will never run for an elected office again. Never again,” Walz, the 2024 Democratic vice presidential nominee, said in an interview with MS NOW.
Is supposedly a statement he made yesterday.
I wonder if this has anything to do with his “productive” meeting with Trump
The article headline is confusing…
I had wondered whether he was going to consider a presidential run, which this part leaves somewhat open:
About 18 months earlier, Walz was thrust into the national spotlight when Vice President Kamala Harris picked him as her running mate in the 2024 election. Walz had repeatedly said — even before 2024 — that he was considering a future presidential bid, but he had said he would rule out a 2028 run if he sought re-election as governor.
So he might be seriously considering a 2028 presidential run… Walz and Ocasio-Cortez anyone?
Are you fucking serious?
Unless this fucking guy starts arresting ICE officers now, fuck no.
Nobody cares
To be honest good. The way he folded on every single one of the things he claimed to believe in during his run for VP turned me off to every wanting to see him hold significant power.
This man is a fake progressive bootlicker of the state. Sent in the National Guard to protect people brutalizing and executing his citizens. A feckless waste of space.
I anticipate down votes because the liberals are going to talk about some modest reforms he got in place. But did any of the systems actually change? Do you trust someone who is letting you get murdered in the streets to run your state? I expect pearl clutching by liberals at my statement but the deference to this man should be killed now. He is not your ally. He does not care about you.
Tim got women tampons, that excuses the fascist murderers he refuses to do anything about. He’s a good man.
I don’t even know how to engage with this comment what an insane thing to say.
He is literally using his power as governor to defend these ICE thugs because he is a feckless democrat who has no theory of how to change this country for the better unless it is incremental and within the bounds of what our corporate overlords have authorized.
I don’t even know how to engage with this comment what an insane thing to say.
I don’t even know how to engage with this comment what an insane thing to say.
Wow, one year of fascism and you are backing down?
Edit: doesnt matter if he is gonna run “down the line”. The matter is this was too scary for him.
