A conversation with Graham Granger, whose combination of protest and performance art spread beyond campus. “AI chews up and spits out art made by other people.”
Interviewer Colin Warren: Do you have any regrets now that you have a criminal record?
Graham Granger: No. This is something I feel very strongly about, and I think that it was something that had to be done. I’m not going to say I’m glad I was the one to do it, because I don’t like to make myself the center of attention in this way, but I don’t regret having a criminal record.
Good kid
i think this is the first time i’ve seen performance art that wasn’t pretentious bullshit funded by the cia or imitating cia bullshit
Artist getting back at AI for consuming all of human art by eating the slop is pretty dope.
Especially since he apparently just decided to do it. Like he was just chilling, saw it, and got so pissed that he ate half of it.
lol and the “artist” is so mad. talentless shithead.
Him eating the AI generated slop should have been the exhibition
Proud of my large adult son making national news consuming slop
If I went to an art gallery and there was AI art on display, I’d probably get pissed off enough to just start eating it too.
Suspiciously AI art shaped student
What, now it’s a crime for a fella to have a snack?
What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent AI meal?
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS, SCREE
CANT HAVE SNACKS ANYMORE CAUSE OF WOKE
“He was tearing them up and just shoving them in as fast as he could,” said Ali Martinez, a witness to the event. “Like when you see people in a hot dog eating contest.”
In the exhibit, artist Nick Dwyer expressed his struggle with “AI psychosis,” during which he says he fell in love with a chatbot that was acting as his therapist. A series of Polaroid pictures depicts the chatbot, himself, and other versions of them combined. He said the bot represented his “Jungian shadow,” which is the repressed, often negative, yet creative part of one’s personality.
What a depressing paragraph. There’s something bigger here than Granger’s desire to physically repeat what AI ‘art’ comes from.
But wait it gets worse
When pressed about the fact that Dwyer was still using AI to create art, even after it led him to psychosis, he smiled. “I’m trying to wean myself off.”
ugh.
The man needs a human therapist not a fucking chatbot.
And a human friend. 50 minutes a week is not enough to make sense of yourself unless you’re already just a brief coaching away from figuring it out on your own.
True.
human therapists aren’t very reliable either. i wouldn’t use an LLM for that but oof.
I have a personal rule that I don’t talk to computers, I’ve been this way since Siri first dropped in 2011. That said I think I would trust talking to a self hosted LLM on an air gapped machine more than spilling my heart out to a therapist.
yeah fuck voice control
The way this panopticon AI shit is going “don’t talk to computers” might as well be the new “don’t talk to cops”.
I still hate youtune for making the internet a video thing. It used to be text and images and that rocked. I like reading
A fucking coloring book would maybe do.
That’s the main reason why I posted it.
Reminds me of this blog post from a few days ago too https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/18/agent-psychosis/
The Jungian shadow explanation feels similar to the golden compass daemon explanation Ronacher gave too, despite Ronacher using AI coding assistants.
Jung was such a hack, and anyone who thinks that he is profound is usually equally hack.
He is also responsible for Jorsan Peterson which alone is reason enough to hate him.
Can you elaborate on this? (Or link something on the topic)
My only experience with Jung is through pop culture so I always got the inkling his philosophy was a little Reddit-tier, but I’m curious as to how
To summarize, Jung believed in the idea of a collective psyche (collective unconscious), and that human culture isn’t a primarily external phenomena taught between individuals, but something that is unconsciously received from the this collective psyche.
This has lead to all kinds of cool fictional ideas, such as the ‘hero’s journey’ archetypes, or Warhammer 40k’s idea of The Warp, or any number of sci-fi focused around the idea of human psychic development, around the idea that we will evolve to be able to access this collective unconsciousness.
However, it also leads to all kinds of strange things, such as the idea that these story archetypes are real human psychological profiles (a la Jordan Peterson) or ideas like ‘love languages’. As has previously been stated, it essentially operates as psychological Tarot.
Basically, Jung is extremely fun when not taken seriously or scientifically, but can lead to very serious categorization errors. He has been thoroughly discredited within both anthropology, sociology, and psychology, and the only reason he is ever read is purely from a historical academic perspective.
Jung is profound in the same way TV Tropes is profound. He recognized patterns in human story telling.
Oh and as the other people said he was extremely fascist-adjacent, in not flirting with it himself. All around a piece of shit.
Is Lacan cool I want to be able to psychoanalyze people
Lacan is cool if you want to justify your love of young women and men, I suppose. I know it is technically more complex than that, but I haven’t met a single person who really advocated for Lacan that wasn’t also trying to sleep with their students.
https://old.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/esl7la/carl_jungs_antisemitic_speech_from_1934/
Also his work Wotan where he gets fully racist towards Africans, Indians, arabs etc. Kinda’ like Nietzsche a lot of his work flirts with fascist and proto-fascist ideas and annoying-ass academic types love to defend it.
He also straight-up benefitted from the Nazis for a time. Didn’t leave Nazi Germany for Switzerland until like 1939 or 1940 or some shit. Also worked with the CIA.
Also probably his most obviously evil, stupid idea ‘it’s actually cool as fuck for Germany to invade eastward to the USSR’:
So I say, in this situation, the only way to save Democracy in the West—and by the West I mean America too—is not to try to stop Hitler. You may try to divert him, but to stop him will be impossible without the Great Catastrophe for all. His Voice tells him to unite the German people and to lead them toward a better future, a bigger place on the earth, a position of glory and richness. You cannot stop him from trying to do that. You can only hope to influence the direction of his expansion.I say let him go East.
Turn his attention away from the West, or rather, encourage him to keep it turned away. Let him go to Russia. That is the logical cure for Hitler. I don’t think Germany will be satisfied with a bit of Africa, big or small. Germany looks at Britain and at France with their magnificent colonial empires, and even at Italy with her Libya and Ethiopia, and thinks of her own size, seventy-eight million Germans as against forty-five million British in the British Isles and forty-two million French and forty-two million Italians and she is bound to think that she ought to have a place in the world not merely as large as that occupied by any one of the other three Western Great Powers, but much larger. How is she going to get that in the West without destroying one or more of the nations which now occupy the West? There is only one field for her to operate in, and that is Russia.
And what will happen to Germany when she tries [to settle] accounts with Russia?
Ah, that’s her own business. Our interest in it is simply that it will save the West. Nobody has ever bitten into Russia without regretting it. It’s not very palatable food. It might-take the Germans a hundred years to finish that meal. Meanwhile we should be safe, and by we, I mean all of Western civilization. Instinct should tell the Western statesmen not to touch Germany in her present mood. She is much too dangerous.
https://christopherdickey.blogspot.com/2016/11/carl-jung-on-hitler-stalin-and_5.html
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Isn’t it sort of like Tarot?
the programmers are not okay
…I should get back into programming. It’s been… fuck, a decade. But I think the fact that I’ve missed this trend completely may be to my benefit.
A friend who joined a programming school told me they scrapped the entire curriculum some months into the course and started teaching vibe coding instead.
What’s sad is that vibe coding is basically only valuable to people who have experience and know what they’re doing. If you’re teaching it in school, you’re teaching nothing.
It’s the equivalent of teaching the power rule of derivatives in a calculus class, then saying “that’s what a derivative is” and not explaining the underlying proofs.
Yeah the idea that vibe coding is much of a skill is mostly a scam to obscure the capabilities and limitations of LLMs. You really do just need solid foundation, the usual programming skills. Maybe if you focus on it you can be a few months ahead of the crowd, but that’s not something a beginner’s course will give you anyway.
I’m still under the impression that it’s totally useless. I’ve written much better and actually more code since I stopped using LLMs (I had co-pilot for a bit).
I really do think that people have been fooling themselves with AI slop. It’s really easy to feel like you’re doing a lot when it’s just constantly spitting stuff out on the screen.
I’m recently going back and re-writing a package that I used AI to help write like a year and a half ago. This is the one that made me abandon AI, since it just continued to fuck up patterns in ways that were incredibly difficult to fix. Then the package suddenly got a decent amount of users and I was locked in.
I came up with the high level concept and used AI to help scaffold and boilerplate out models and stuff from a spec, which should have been a sign that I was doing something wrong.
Now I’m rewriting the whole thing from scratch, and one of the big things I’ve noticed is that the types of things I’d use AI for before, I’m now writing build scripts for. Which makes maintaining the library like 10x easier. It also forces me to distil the library backend down into the simplest possible form to keep the buildscripts simple.
I’m also forced to be way stricter with my typing solution (Python) since I can’t just offload “make this right” to the AI and actually need to use strict static checks to keep the layers properly synced. AI Python tends to be awful when it comes to type hinting if it even does it.
Oh it’s great at generating verbose near infeasible for humans to maintain code bases. I think the asbestos analogy is pretty on point.
