He does something illegal on a practically daily basis and everyone just kisses his ass. Now I guess he can just continue on and conquer the whole world and kidnap world leaders. Why doesn’t anyone stand up to this asshole?
Republicans became so partisan the whole system fell apart.
They built a propaganda machine to protect themselves from a Nixon scandal ever happening again, and let it run for three generations.
The results are what we see today.
Because the members of our governing bodies are feckless cowards who are terrified of losing their seats by doing anything that slightly stinks of basic ethics.
Republicans took over the court by refusing to appoint Obama’s pick and then putting in cronies.
What about all the world leaders, tech leaders, democrats, liberals, other countries? It feels like no one is doing anything except maybe Schumer sending a strongly worded letter.
World Leaders/Other Countries : Mostly cowed by the US military and money. Those that aren’t are mostly happy to watch the US self immolate.
Tech Leaders: Combination of either agreeing with him or willing to go along so he doesn’t turn on their companies.
Democrats: Don’t have control of any part of any branch of the federal government, tend to play by the rules and don’t know how to handle someone who doesn’t.
Liberals ( assuming colloquial US definition) : Have been protesting, voting, and otherwise opposing him, but haven’t reached critical mass to convince Republican politicians to stop supporting trump.
Democrats: Don’t have control of any part of any branch of the federal government, tend to play by the rules and don’t know how to handle someone who doesn’t.
They have an unwavering devotion to a terminally flawed system.
The system has been rewarding them handsomely so far, but getting votes AND corporate money is a thin rope to walk on, and Trump has grabbed it mostly for himself and now has both.
The Democratic party, as it has existed until now, is dead.
The “popular” Dems (Bernie, AOC, Mandani, etc) need to jump ship and create a true “fuck the rich” party. They’ll win.
Where I live most liberals are too busy thought-policing each other and trying to ‘out’ eat other as closeting trump supporters to do anything effectively. They are scared of their own shadows.
I used to be part of a few community orgs, I left last year because I was so done with people telling me how if I’m not foaming at the mouth angry at working-class white people and virtue signalling constantly about how pure I am, then I’m a nazi. It was so petty to the point I got screamed at for wearing a trucker hat that I was secretly a Trump supporter, because ONLY TRUMP SUPPORTERS WEAR HATS. Shit was utterly insane.
It’s hard to organize and get together with people when they won’t accept your support/efforts if its anything less than their ideal.
They are. World leaders are just as horrified/pissed off as Democrats. China is pushing back, and you see what the cost is to our economy. Republicans don’t care. They have the mindset that their only responsibility is to benefit themselves, ie. greed is good.
Speaking as “other countries”. Not our circus not our monkeys.
We are avoiding the USA as much as we can. We’re trying to route around the problem. But what can we really do?
At the moment we’re feeling betrayed, but we have to manoeuvre to protect ourselves and try to avoid a world war. But we’re making plans which increasingly don’t include the USA and just hoping for the best and that you guys don’t pull us under with you. You can only let a former friend hurt you so many times.
It’s very sad to see what you guys are going through but sad things have happened to good people throughout history unfortunately. And we’re philosophical about it that it’s your turn now and we’re secretly relieved it isn’t us.
We do hope you guys can turn things around but we’ve kinda made peace with that fact that the world has changed and we’re trying to move on with things we actually can control.
Sorry. And good luck! 🤷♂️
Lol. Australians still haven’t decided whether Aboriginies or Torres Islanders count as human beings. You live in a nanny state that has some of the most restrictive Internet censorship laws in the world. Your Parliment has enacted 76 pieces of “counter-terrorism” legislation since 2001 that have tacitly ended any protections for the free press. You’re income inequality is at a 20 year high.
You don’t need our help to go under, ratbag.
Brexit showed that it is the same circus
Stopped being not your circus not your monkeys when he invaded Venezuela. Greenland, Panama, or Colombia is next. Appeasement only ends one way.
consider how the other world wars started.
rich guys wanting war to increase trade and decrease national class-struggle within the nation’s borders (including foreign support)
Serious reverse question: what about them? Like what do you genuinely think they’re supposed to do against America?
Boycott, storm the capital, revolt, sanction, impeach, stop taking the high ground and start fighting dirty. There’s probably a lot of things that could be done.
Boycott what exactly? Sanction America? Do you think countries will jeopardize their economies or safety over Maduro? Do you understand how dangerous and serious American threats are?
Storm the capital and revolt? You first buddy, also do you mean the capitol in DC or mar a lago? Half the country support him and almost everyone are hundreds or even thousands of miles away from either capitol.
Impeachment requires 2/3 of the senate so why even suggest that if you know how it works
Stop taking the high ground and fight dirty? What does this mean? Republicans control the supreme court, the house of representatives, the senate, the executive branch, and 31 of the 50 states. This is not some fluke this is the America a LOT of people want.
I hope you’re going to vote in the next election
Impeachment requires 2/3 of the senate so why even suggest that if you know how it works
Impeachment requires a simple majority in the House, conviction and removal requires 2/3 of the Senate.
If he’s not removed it doesn’t matter
It’s still impeachment if he isn’t removed is my point.
Crap, I’m probably on a watchlist now. Nice knowing you all.
everyone’s on a watchlist when it’s this level of paranoia in state mate
the only bad thing for you to do is shutting up and sitting down.
that’s the only end goal, along with misdirection into paranoia of your own
Boycott: Good news! There are a lot of those happening, but it hasn’t shifted things enough yet.
Storm the capital: To what end? Seriously, assuming a large enough group of people took over the capital building or White House, what next? Trump would be evacuated elsewhere and still have full control of the military which could easily put down the crowd.
Revolt: What would this entail? Yes, if a critical mass of Americans organized to get Trump and rewrite the constitution then maybe we could get somewhere but that large of a critical mass doesn’t exist yet. Remember, that would be a fight against about 1/3 of the US population plus the military.
Sanction: The US is the largest economy in the world and is in control of the most important currency. It’s impossible to sanction the US until both of those change.
Impeach and Remove: Requires a majority of representatives and 2/3 majority of senators. You need to convince a lot of republicans to make that happen.
Fight dirty: What does that mean, exactly?
I don’t know, but something has to be done or we could just watch western civilization crumble along with the end of democracy .
Start disregarding their side of the treaties they have with the USA that Trump has effectively torn up. Sell off their US bonds. Strengthen political and trade alliances that don’t include the USA. Stop sharing intelligence with the USA. Boycott US goods and services and switch infrastructure away from US companies.
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The Democrats won’t save you; they didn’t then and they won’t now.
They’re not paid to save you.
Check out the incomes of the leadership (and their families), you can’t get any more blatantly dirty.
They’re the same people, taking turns every few years.
Oh, almost forgot “BoTh PaRtIeS”. I know you kids like that.
Bud, it’s not better for you when a judge refuses to acknowledge a basic fact about reality because a politician told them to. Only one side did that. There’s not turn taking here.
Pal, one empowers the other. It’s only possible because they work together.
You’ve been duped. There aren’t “two sides”, they’re a team, good cop and bad cop.
Why do you think Harris pursued Republican votes during her campaign? It was to lose. Obviously. Blatantly. She “fell on her sword”.
Wake up!
Because, amd I will say this yet again,
Trump is not the problem.
He is the symptom. If it wasn’t him, it would be anybody. He isn’t in charge, he isn’t calling the shots. The system that enabled his rise will exist after he has a stroke. It won’t matter.
He’s the distraction. The carnival clown to keep people from watching The Steves too closely (and the rest of the good ol’ boys club).
I saw this coming 20 years ago. He definitely is not the problem. The billionaires are. Heritage Foundation.
The heritage foundation is a terrorist organization.
He’s not the disease. He’s a symptom. I agree, but to take the analogy further the symptoms are what kill you.
Trump is the result of decades of effort by right wing, authoritarian, racists, and fascist groups all working together to advance their goals. They play the long game and do not give up. They want minority rule, they do not want democracy.
Alot of this started back in the 50’s with de-segregation. Check out a documentary called Bad Faith. It lays out how an organization named Council For National Policy (parent org of the Heritage Foundation, by the way) realized they could control alot of voters by controlling pastors and churches. Before Trump was elected, he agreed to play ball, and they put their support behind him. This is why so many religious people follow trump, its because their pastor supports trump.
This is just one example, but there are alot of organizations like this dedicated to evil causes.
Now imagine all these groups working together, across international boarders. If they win, they get to impose their crazy ideals and robbing the American tax payer at the same time.
It’s the Dominionism Cult I grew up in in the 90s, I thought it started in the 70s, but nope, started with desegregation like you say. Chris Hedge’s 2006 Totalitarianism in America talks about it and he’s rightfully scared, but he didn’t get taken to secret meetings where they taught their members how to brainwash ppl like I was, or he might have been even more alarmed
but he didn’t get taken to secret meetings where they taught their members how to brainwash ppl like I was,
Care to elaborate? Sounds as fascinating as it is terrifying
Yeah I was 13-14, and they were telling the cult members how to make “friends” with ppl they didn’t give a shit about, how to start talking to them about the cult’s beliefs, how to tell how good of a reception they were getting, how to tell if it had gone on long enough and the person wasn’t receptive so move on, how to “dump them as friends in a friendly way” if they did join so the higher cult members could take over and the lower members could then have time to go recruit more ppl. It was fucking nuts.
My mom was vulnerable to them bc she was so lonely and also liked thinking she had secrets other ppl didn’t know.
I remember being taught how to “witness” as a kid/young teen. Thankfully I was shy and self aware enough to never attempt it.
I don’t think they were as hardcore as that though.
A friend of a friend, while in my early 20s, got roped into Mormonism in a similar way. She started dating a guy who was Mormon and pressured her to convert. She later found out that it was all a fishing strategy, and she was far from the only one he had done it to. Unfortunately, at least at that point, that information was not enough to steer her away from her newfound cult
Side note: Desegregation started the anti abortion movement. The GOP wasn’t getting sufficient votes from opposing desegregation so they trumped up the abortion issue and got churches onboard.
Always stuns me to think that when I was born, abortion was a non-issue for everyone but Catholics, can’t imagine such a world.
If anyone wants to know, highlight and search that first sentence. It’s almost weird how clearly documented it was.
The older I get, the more i realize that religion is just another tool to control people. Religion, politics, taxes, laws are all really the same thing. A means of control for crazy people who want to control others.
Unfortunately, populations need controlled. We didn’t evolve to operate in groups of more than 250 or so.
You’re right, all those things are means of control, hence why we fight about who and how that control is wielded.
Because everyone in power across the globe realizes with 100% certainty that WW3 will start in less than 5 years. When that happens there will be a global redrawing of maps and an unprecedented volume of wealth will flow upwards to the .01%.
The closer you are to power, the closer you are to the spoils of the biggest internationally coordinated heist in human history. So while everyone realizes exactly who and what he is, they are all willing to play ball and let him be Caesar because they know that their careers will last longer than his and when the bombs start falling THEY will be among the chosen to form the next generation of leaders. All of maga are in increasingly distant orbits from the nucleus but as long as your group can push yourselfs above the next group at minimum you’re not at the bottom.
It’s not a race to the top if everyone locks arms and declares themselves part of the top. Fiefdoms will be carved out for oligarchs. City States will be awarded to top donars. Above the law will become an official status for those wealthy enough to purchase a literal get out of jail free card.
Ultimately this will end as all empires, more war. More revolutions. The America I die in will not contain 50 states. In a hundred years the former USA will have been balkenized and exist as a fractured mess of poverty and resource wars with one or two walled in Dubais scattered amongst the rubble.
History will be unable to distinguish the trajectory of the USSR from the USA and we will exist in the social memory as examples of hubris and failure for a hundred generations.
Sweet dreams all.
Because all the leaders of this country are in corporate pockets or too gutless to do anything and regular people don’t have enough time to do anything because they’re too busy scrambling to make ends meet.
He makes billionaires money.
This will get buried but he isn’t. What he is doing is everything he can to appear that way. Think about it. He carefully picked a country whose leader no one would cry over if he kidnapped him. It was a quick strike with a few helicopters. The rest is just posturing. This is a shell of a man desperate for people to stop laughing at him. In a wider sense Republicans can’t seem to get people to love them so they can only get their rocks off by trying to scare the most amount of people possible. Let’s get back to getting those Epstein files released and not being distracted.
You’re acting like the kidnapping of a foreign leader is the first illegal thing that he’s done
I am sorry but I can’t understand this. What he has done is a blatant act of war. This is not against you, @Novamdomum it’s a reaction to the fact that I am seeing a LOT of governments worldwide taking this position that Maduro is a dictator, so Trump did a good (or at least not too bad) thing. But that’s not a great argument.
First of all, Trump is not even close to being one of those superheroes acting selflessly for the good of humankind. If I read that there are a couple of gangs on my street fighting and killing each other, my first thought is not, ‘Ha, good, they are shooting other bad guys.’ It’s, ‘Shit, I’m in the middle of a fucking gang war in my neighborhood!’.
If it turns out that one of the gangs is led by my unsuspectable neighbor and friend, I’m not going to be reassured at all. In fact I’m going to think that I trusted this guy with a spare key to my house for emergency and panic even more. Let alone if said neighbor and (former) friend starts openly saying he will actually need to annex my porch for his own security reasons.
And I’m not afraid of Trump because he’s projecting power, but because he’s exerting it through the most powerful weapons in the world at his own whim and everyone seems to be like meh, he’s just acting up to distract us from the fact that he’s a pedophile by… becoming a war criminal? This is like a street thug trying to distract the judge by slitting his own lawyer’s throat during his trial.
It’s not a war if the other country can’t fight back.
It is very likely, but no confirmed, that Maduro’s capture was facilitated by people in his own government. Hence why it was so pathetically easy, and and used like 1/100 of the assets that the USA has built up in the area.
He ordered a strike, just like very other president before him has. They’ve all done stuff like this. You’re lack of perspective and understanding about what he has done here is really telling. There was nothing extraordinary about this. Anyone watching the news has seen it coming for months, what is mostly shocking is the fact it wasn’t a broader strike.
Are you saying that I should change my perspective from “Trump has committed war crimes” to “every other US President in modern history has committed war crimes”?
Because yes, of course the US have done shitty things to many other countries for sheer economical interest several times in history. But so far, as a European, I and many others were looking at these things with a LOT of goodwill (the allied WW2 saviors who freed us from Nazis… the land of the Free… Iraq was somehow responsible for 9/11…). We were assuming all these unilateral intervention were for some type of greater good, and that those US soldiers were the good guys. Maybe we were naive. I was, for sure (or I wasn’t born yet) when many of those past events happened.
It also “helped” that we were mostly being lied to at the time of the events and most of us only got the reality check many years later, under a new and generally apologetic US administration. It’s not like when Cheney died I heard a lot of people crying on either side of the Atlantic, but in the moment we were (or at least I was) completely sold on Truth, Justice and the American Way.
Funnily enough, what’s new with Trump is that his might actually be the most transparent administration in US history. It’s hard now to be naive, complacent or even hypocritical when you have a President who’s saying all the silent parts out loud (“yeah, our US companies want that oil, so we’re going to run that country for a while”), while thumping his chest in the ring, pointing aggressively to the audience and shouting “you’re next! Come fight me!” to friends and foes alike.
Nobody is ever the ‘good guys’. Everyone is struggling for power and control over everyone else. The Nazis thought they were the good guys too (and still do).
Trump is saying the quiet part out loud, yes. And it is very very upsetting to people.
Personally I don’t find any of what Trump does outrageous… but I have paid attention for 20+ years. Most people are only outraged at Trump because he makes the ugliness of our society visible, instead of kept in the closet out of sight.
But I don’t believe any of us will ever stop being ugly. It’s what we are as human beings. We just very much like to pretend we aren’t, especially when we are engaging in acts of violence and hostility. There is nothing ‘crazy’ about Trump, it’s just that he isn’t as PC as every president before him, and his fans LOVE it, and his haters HATE it.
Meanwhile when Obama was ‘politely’ murdering people via drone strikes he was hated by the right for not ‘putting boots on the ground’ (pussies use drones!) and congratulated by the left for being so ‘civilized’.
Might be, but the fact that they tried to look like the good guys (or at least to delay the revelation that they weren’t until they were out of office) meant they had to at least give a shit what their people and voters thought.
The fact that Trump doesn’t look like he even cares any longer what the shrinking number of his voters think does not look like a great sign either. And I’m not knowledgeable enough about US history to tell if that has a precedent or not, but I know we had quite a few in Europe.
Because we are a failed society.
Everyone that can do anything about it makes far too much money by doing nothing at all. Plus social media can manipulate the masses to agree with them doing nothing as the best course of action. So in that environment, Trump is free to do whatever the fuck he wants, and is.
Because anyone in a position to stop him is complicit or a coward
It’s on us to gather our communities and force him into an execution
Because our owners want it this way.
Come on, he doesn’t do everything he wants, like bang his daughter.
You sure? Well i suppose he’s probs too old now
You sure? Well i suppose
he’sshe’s probs too old nowEww good point.
I’m pretty sure he did
Because the only people that have the authority to stop him either suck his balls for pleasure or have no balls of their own.
Dems should be on every show on every channel screaming: this can all end tomorrow. Why do conservatives let this madness continue one more day? 25th and be done with the madman.
They showed with epstein that the right is vulnerable when pressed.
the vast majority of the dems are in on it.
sure thing buddy. the one side that wanted to give you healthcare is the same rounding up brown people.
pfft you really that slow?
