finally the welfare state is cut-off.
“go woke go broke”Hate don’t make bank
Starve the facists
Orbans Hungary is what the UK will become if we vote for Farage or similar shitheads.
Please dear Hungarian people just stop voting for this fascist
You too can have nice things
Gay people aren’t the enemy, stop being scared of them
cant really do much. the pensioners and gypsies love him like a fuckin god. the ruling party has sold everything to the orban family, and changed up many ceos to his friends. even if fidesz doesnt win the next elections, they already control the country, and stolen everything like the communists back in the say. almost every media outlet, newsportal, tv channel is in their hands. there is nowhere to run. anti fidesz newspapers get blocked, newswriters get swatted by police or taxangency.
easy to say that “haha gay people good, just dont vote on him”, where there is a full country obeying his every wish.
I understand what you’re saying, almost the same thing with the neonazis in Germany. The propaganda is so dumb and so effective it would be comical if it weren’t so sad.
Just one thing I’d like to say though: Gays aren’t good nor are they bad - they are just people, like everyone else.
The problem is an aging countryside population that consumes terrestrial broadcast only. All terrestrial broadcast is controlled by the current government. Young people overwhelmingly support lgbtq rights and the party votes keep shifting year over year towards the opposition the past few years as old people die due to neglected healthcare.
Here’s the illegal “gay parade” in Budapest from this last summer:
This is very good to hear
Problem: They gerrymandered, control the media and made a law that requires a 66% majority to replace ministers of Orban, even if the opposition wins.
Hitler playbook.
Hope this will tilt the Hungarian vote even more against autocrat lover Victor Orban.
hes going to rely on putin more and more.
Spoiler alert: it won’t. If you drive through Hungary (which we sometimes do) you notice anti-EU ads literally everywhere and he also controls the traditional media outlets so the news bias should be off the charts. My guess is that they’ll frame it like Ursula being a bully and withholding what is rightfully theirs because they don’t like the way Orban protects his citizens. Unfortunately…
I’m always surprised that this kind of rhetoric works. If the EU were such a big bully, nothing would stop Hungary from just leaving. Like, at some point you’d have to ask yourself why a supposedly competent and well-meaning leader keeps you in a relarionship with an entity that allegedly only wants the worst for you.
rural people are pretty simple minded, less educated, and easly manipulated, sound familiar. besides the ones that drank the kool-aid.
“The enemy is strong while also weak” is standard fascist propaganda.
It has been a “the enemy is strong” while at the same time “the enemy is weak” for hundreds of years. Most people are simply not critical thinkers.
Welp, I’m surprised trump managed to become the president of the USA. Twice. Unfortunately it seems this is how the world works unfortunately.
orban has been in power since 2010s, im not surprised trump became twice president. if russian propaganda works, it will get some right wingers into office.
Why not. From its inception this place was populated by religious fruits, tax dodgers, the desperate and uneducated. Hell, half of the country fought a grizzly war against the other half that the losing half still isn’t over. The losing half started it so that men much like Trump could own other men. The slave owners weren’t the ones doing the fighting, of course, rich men don’t fight wars. They stirred up the poor, unlearned yokels, told them that they were being oppressed and sent them to die and kill, which they did. There’s still folks who claim “the South will rise again”.
Trump is as American as baseball.
People don’t have the energy or will to pour time into politics so they’re easily swayed by whomever speaks with most authority, even if they’re just blowing smoke up their arse. It’s how all these nazi parties are rising to the top in most countries; they paint a very easy to understand picture of complex problems and promise easy solutions that they can’t deliver.
“How do we solve crime? Most criminals are immigrants so we just boot them out. Not all criminals are immigrants of course, so we’ll need to also increase the police force. Give them more surveillance tools.”
Bam! Authoritarianism.
If the EU were such a big bully, nothing would stop Hungary from just leaving.
Hungary is landlocked. Serbia is on its way into the EU.
The EU could be a bully that is so big that they cannot be left.
That seems like a huge stretch even to someone who gobbles up all the anti-EU propaganda to me. But you never know, I guess.
Serbia is not even close to being allowed to join the EU.
It’s enough if they would join in 10 or 20 years.
Anti-EU, but not anti EU money, eh?
He found out, you can be an asshole about the EU, but get the money anyway.
The polls look promising. Your fatalistic belief everybody just blindly follows propaganda may well be disproven this year (disproven again, but in a new country).
Also, according to Eurobarometer, more Hungarians now distrust their government than the EU.
Let’s hope Trump made such an excessive example that more distrustful people vote to prevent Orban.
I would be happy if it manifested this way in the election. Would be my hope.
Good
Slovakia next?
I Hope.
As much as I hate Orban, I believe we need a bigger opposition against Flinten Uschi, and he is the only one doing this right now.
I Hope all those retard “eastern Europe”-countries would just leave the EU, and go back to the stoneage. If they hate it so much, just fucking leave. Instead, we have these Russian assets voteblocking inside the parlament.
You seem very uneducated about politics and how “countries” are neither equivalent to their leaders nor half their citizens. You should read up on the matter before spreading useless hate.
all those retard “eastern Europe”-countries
Ah yes because the people of those countries are the ones responsible for the things their power grabbing dictators do? What an idiotic thing to say. The majority of the population of “those countries”, especially the younger people are strongly in favor of the EU.
Don’t feed the trolls.
I didn’t read their statement as addressing the people of the countries but the countries themselves, meaning their acting governments.
Im not gonna assume someone using the word “retard” like that is acting in good faith.
So the People of a democratic society doesn’t bear any responsibility of what they choose to vote for? May I remind you, that being a democratic government is one of the first requirements to ever get into the EU, which is why turkey forinstance, struggles. I know a lot of young People from poland, hungary, Slovenia and Bulgaria, that we have a lot in common with, and hate their current government. Doesn’t mean Jack shit, when it’s the 60% boomer voters who decides the path of your country. That is how democracy works. It’s the majority that gets to choose if your country is pro russian, or pro EU.
Authoritarians taking control of the government is a baked in feature of capitalism. Maybe you think your country is so exceptional that it will never happen to you. That’s what they all think before The Fall.
To say it would never happen to your country would be very ignorant. But Saying a democratic process having some responsability, I think is fair. Usually, it starts with a Guy like trump, making politics “great again” a guy speaking the language of the People, being funded by billionaires to make them richer and more powerful. It’s up to the People to see through this madness. Like we had a Guy in denmark called Rasmus Paludan, he was exactly this. Called out Foreigners, wanted to drop all criminal refugees from the sky with paracutes down on the snow desert of greenland.
This guy seemed to gain a lot of votes, when your saw how much attention he got from social media and such, by doing controversial things like livestreaming he burned the Koran and such.
He failed messirably in the ballet. He then gained a lot of popularity in sweden, and tried there. Again, failed.
Ofc you can’t compare the democratic process of sweden and denmark to the usa. Since it isn’t a federal government with multiple states, and isn’t a 100% capitalistic system, where backing from private companies benefits your cause, rather than in scandinavia, People would absolutely see it as corruption and would impact your political run negatively. We also have maybe the nearest to a valid media cocerage you could get, which is actively giving all candidates the same/or near same speaking time on television, rather than us private media, which Usually is in favor of one party (fox for trump, CNN for pamala Harris, etc.).
I am Saying it is harder for the hitlers to gain power in a scandinavian model (also because of the multiple party parlament system) rather than the usa model.
There are zero democratic countries on this planet. Governments almost never enact policy that their voters want if that policy conflicts with the interests of rich people. That is a general fact, scientifically proven in multiple EU countries. The influence voters have over what their government does is very minimal and only impacts surface level things. Real change only comes through direct imdividual action and the threat of guillotines.
Wrong. Lobbying is a thing in all countries, I get that, but most of the time, it is lobbying in the parties that already supports your cause as a company. Therefore, it’s up to the citizens, to see through the noise, and still agree or dissagree with those parties. (If its a multiple party parlament, not that 2 party shitshow like usa)
