Alternative title: What the fuck is with Koreans and cults? I fully endorse and support the CPC and their regulation of religion in the PRC, this shit’s fuckin bonkers.
I just learned that Korea’s not just home to a protestant cult (moonies and all the familial schismic sects) but also an authentic 21st century catholic heresy.
The “miracle” heresy of Naju occurred when some lady chose to convert while suffering from cancer and started to tell people her mary statue started to cry blood. Her claims grew bigger to also include her receiving the true flesh of blood of Jesus Christ during a communion (as in the cracker and grape juice supposedly turned into literal meat and blood instead of the usual spiritual transubstantiation aka ritualistic symbolism thingy) as well as stigmata wounds spontaneously appearing on her body (places where Jesus got nailed to the cross plus poked with a spear). Obviously with something that big going on that deals with the whole spirit shit they’re supposed to be the authority on earth, the catholic church went to poke around and see whats up. Long story short, they said she was full of shit, there’s no spiritual shenanigans going on, and that she and her movement must recant their false belief or be branded heretics and formally excommunicated from the church. They gave her 20 years to think about it, and IN FUCKING 2008, just 17 YEARS AGO!, she was excommunicated and was branded along with her entire movement a formal catholic heresy with anyone that attempts to follow her teachings or goes to her shrine in Naju recieving an automatic “Latae Sententiae Excommunicatio” (means triggers automatically when you do the thing considered excommunicatable) meaning you’re getting a guaranteed formal censure and title of Heretic from the Catholic Church.
Its fucking awesome we’re in the 21st century, the era where we can send people to do tik-tok dances on the moon while bathing the earth in nuclear fire, still has ye olde fuckin catholic heresies.
What the fuck is with Koreans and cults?
On the topic of Korean cults, I discovered the “Joseon Cybernation”. It claims to be a continuation of the Korean Dynasty in the form of the blockchain. A guy named Yi Seok claims to be the grandson of an Emperor of Korea and he declared that Andrew Lee (original founder of the Private Internet Access vpn company) would be the successor of the Joseon empire.
Their youtube channel features videos with TheGoodPerry, an american rapper who was known to collaborate with Lil Yachty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lee_(entrepreneur)#Joseon_Cybernation
I knew a guy in university who claimed descent from the Korean royal family. Wonder if we could stir up some Spider-man thing where they each call the other pretender to the throne.
Absurd premise: maybe there’s a case for a symbolic constitutional monarch who doesn’t directly come from either side being useful in a unification scenario. They’d have a hard time with symbols and branding after 80 years of division, especially if they don’t want to present it as a winners-and-losers thing. OTOH, if they want to lean into a futuristic image, maybe they can just create a vtuber head-of-state to read out big addresses and take softball questions from schoolchildren.
The Chosŏn dynasty ruled from 1392 to 1895, basically 500 straight years, I don’t think it’s exactly rare to have some royal blood. Maybe not like “Genghis Khan” levels of common, but it shouldn’t be that rare, either.
ritualistic symbolism thingy
Transubstantiation is specifically not symbolic. It means that the host’s substance literally does change to be the real body and blood of Jesus. The tricky thing is that the ‘species’ or ‘accidents’ of the wafer and wine remain. There is no chemical change, but the essence of the bread and wine is replaced. This is contrary to consubstantiation which holds that the bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus.
There’s actually other Eucharistic miracles that the Church does recognize like the one in Lanciano. In these, the Church sustains that the host physically became flesh and the flesh is real human muscle tissue (IIRC from a human heart). There’s also other cases of stigmata that the Church recognizes like Padre Pio.
What if instead of consubstantiation it was cumsubstantiation and post
Welcome to the first day of the rest of your life.
Please select your title title:
[]Mr
[]Ms
[]Mrs
[]Dr.
[]Sir
[X] Other: HERETIC FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Can I just phone in an appearance? I’d love to frame an official letter from the Catholic church calling me a heretic but going to South Korea sounds like effort
Whenever I hear about mary crying blood I think,“Serves her right!”
I don’t really have a justification for that, I just find it so weird that people who admire her want her to be crying blood. It seems more like something you wish on your enemies. And I take a generally adversarial relationship to the catholic church. maybe she’s crying blood because her organization commits boundless and unknowable quantities of crime. Good!
Wait, I thought we were all meeting up in the usual polycule room?!
yeah but now we get to call it a “conclave”
or is it more of an enclave?
maybe a beanclave?
if white smoke rises, then that means we’ve elected a new social democrat to argue over for the next year.
Aww, AOC again? Come on guys throw in a wacky name for once
Way ahead of you there, my mom’s side of the family already got excommunicated for my grandparents getting a divorce back in the 50’s
Lmao, christian cults are the silliest thing
Obviously not the point but stigmata are interesting to me because they’re usually in the wrong place, when they crucified people they went through the wrist and not the hand because the hand doesnt have the bones to support one’s weight
Edit: might be wrong
The idea that crucifixions were done by hammering nails through the wrists is iirc based on an examination of a crucified man done in the 1970s, however that examination was botched and it turns out the guy was tied to the post rather than nailed to it, the damage to his metacarpals which was previously used as evidence being inconsistent with getting a nail hammered through them, and there being no damage to the ulnar or radius. In fact all we know for sure is that they nailed the heels to the post, since all the bodies we have found that were crucified had that injury.
But we also know that you CAN nail someone by their hands to posts and have them stay up there. Because missionaries introduced that shit to Asia.
They crucified… Who???
I don’t understand the question. If you are inquiring about the examined body to which i refer, then it’s a man crucified by Romans and buried under the name Jehohanan in the 1st century.
