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plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net to Earth@hexbear.netEnglish · 10 months ago

Five Just Stop Oil activists receive record sentences for planning to block M25

www.theguardian.com

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Five Just Stop Oil activists receive record sentences for planning to block M25

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Campaigners receive longest ever sentences for non-violent protest after being convicted of conspiracy to cause public nuisance
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  • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The way I’ve seen seemingly normal people talk about wanting to run over protestors blocking traffic makes me sick. How do a lot of people think this way?

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      It’s disturbing, but a lot of regular people seem very ready and willing to engage in absolutely depraved acts of violence if it weren’t for social norms against it. The person who will, unprompted, start talking about how they would run over protestors, is probably the same person who would get their machete out of their shed and walk over to their neighbor’s house and redacted because a radio DJ said they were cockroaches who need to be exterminated.

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        They’re not going to machete people to death because that’s too much work. They’ll kill people in the laziest most convenient way possible though: cars, calling the cops, COVID, buying shit they don’t need at the store, etc.

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          “damn, you killed a guy? How’d you do it?”

          “Well, I was sitting in a big comfy seat and I flexed my ankle a little bit to push the accelerator. I am very badass”

      • peppersky [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        It’s just all the violence that capitalism inflicts on you every second of your life that first completely desensitizes people and then when they are given absolutely zero ways to talk about that violence or even perceive it they go crazy. There’s really just the slightest difference between the violence that is everyday “driving a car” compared to “driving over a protester”

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      I regularly feel this way towards the fucking pricks who drive 13 miles under the speed limit during the 10 miles I’m on a no passing 1 lane road two times every day every day every day every day

      Cars are so good and make people empathetic and communal!

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    “conspiracy to cause public nuisance” LMAO

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      love it when the government jails people with the same logic losers on lemmy use to defed from leftist instances preemptively

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      In the capitalist west you can be imprisoned for years for thought crimes

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    what the fuck, 4-5 year sentences and they didnt even do anything???

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      Precrime.

      Questioning the state? Sounds like you’re in the beginnings of forming a rebellion. Off to work camps you go!

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    British innovations in thoughtcrime.

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      thoughtcrime and precrime! so much innovation

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    if they’re going to crucify you regardless you may as well skip the foreplay

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      If you’re gonna do a time, do the real crime.

      P.s. Don’t do crimes kids, because it’s illegal

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    just for PLANNING?

    Planning to do something that doesn’t kill or even physically harm anyone and you get this? disgusting

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    and they didn’t even actually do it holy shit. end britain

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    You’d serve less time brandishing a machete in public. The message is clear: don’t even think about fucking with the money, peasant.

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    If you’re going to get 5 year sentences for stopping traffic then you might as well do something that’s actually worth 5 years.

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      Well, then you get 50 years

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        You say that and yet nobody that’s been smashing up weapons factories for the last 2 years has received a single conviction lol

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          Did they get caught planning in zoom? Because I have a feeling they’d get at least one or two convictions if they got caught

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            Palestine Action? They’re arrested regularly. They don’t take it to court because they don’t want a weapons company’s secrets being open to evidence requests that they have to comply with during the discovery phase of a trial.

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              They definitely convicted at least a handful of them just last year, but they ended up getting less time than the Just Stop Oil people so maybe you’re right that they should have just done something cooler

              https://www.palestineaction.org/teledyne-sentence/

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                Teledyne being an american one may have been the problem there. All the israeli factories such as Elbit have simply had arrested activist walk without charges.

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                  They definitely got charged and were mostly acquitted by a jury. Only one conviction.

                  https://palestineaction.org/elbit-eight-verdicts/

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    The tyrannical deteriorating monarchy of the “United” Kingdom issues draconian sentences to brave protestors who, through strict regime surveillance, were prevented from even planning disruptive actions.

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    But it’s literally called a “nuisance”

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    Does this radicalize just stop oil further?

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    This is exactly why adventurism is cool and good imo. We already lost and we’re all dead and going to hell anyway. If you have the conviction to do something then do something worthwhile.

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      Imma be real here, I understand frustration of generic commuters. Why not sink yachts, scratch lambos and burn mansions. Also malm has a book.

      Also don’t plan over zoom for myriad of reasons.

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    Removed by mod

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      This ain’t it chief

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      deleted by creator

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