• @mariusafa
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    1010 months ago

    That’s a bit COPIUM tbh

    • MultigrainCerealista [he/him, comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      Why?

      Why even is getting a man on the moon important?

      And if it was important why did we stop?

      The value of manned missions was propaganda which is why the Apolo mission was cancelled when it stopped getting TV ratings. Because getting humans on the moon didn’t actually deliver anything of much importance except those TV ratings.

      “First game of golf on the moon” good job USA you did it meanwhile the USSR landed on Venus.

        • MultigrainCerealista [he/him, comrade/them]
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          10 months ago

          And if it was important why did we stop?

          Like it’s cool in a “I’d like to take a submarine to visit the titanic” dare devil sense but why was it important?

          How did it improve the world?

          • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them]
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            710 months ago

            To be fair, we went back multiple times, and india just put a lunar lander on the south pole. Lots of valuable scientific data about our closest celestial neighbor has been discovered through these missions.

            While I see what you mean, systematic scientific research about the moon, carried out over decades by multiple countries, however imperfect, is far different than the hubris of a bourgeois dipshit getting himself crushed at the bottom of the ocean, because he wanted to see a glorified cemetery and thought safety regulations were for liberal pinko cucks.

            • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              Fun fact: every crewed mission to the Moon in human history was done during the first presidential term of the Nixon regime.

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        You can’t say it isn’t copium and then go into a bunch of sour grapes about how the moon is dumb and who cares. The whole world was pretty psyched about it at the time.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Space_Race

        And it’s not like someone who reads this meme is going to come away with an accurate impression of the space race. People in this thread are talking about how “the US did this one thing and that’s’ it”

        • MultigrainCerealista [he/him, comrade/them]
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          Yeah people were “psyched” about it but when they stopped being psyched and stopped watching - when they lost the tv ratings - the Apolo mission was canned.

          How is what you said even vaguely a rebuttal of the idea it was showy propaganda with minimal scientific value?

          Playing golf on the moon actually wasn’t an important thing to do. It’s cool, I’d like to do it… but it’s really pretty superficial. It’s a vanity propaganda piece and nothing else that’s why we didn’t go back because it doesn’t matter.

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            How is what you said even vaguely a rebuttal of the idea it was showy propaganda with minimal scientific value?

            Why is such a rebuttal needed? The fact that the space race was about propaganda first and scientific and engineering advancement second is baked into the conversation. Does it apply more to the moon landing versus other parts?

            And they did science on the moon.

          • radiofreeval [any]
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            110 months ago

            minimal scientific value

            The Apollo program lead to a ton of advancement in a bunch of different fields. So many spinoff technologies were created because of it. Also rovers go at a pretty slow pace, humans are more efficent for in-depth research.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]OP
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      3610 months ago

      let me use an analogy from software development. the soviets wrote all the foundational code libraries, and the american forked those libraries to build a shiny web application

      • @mariusafa
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        310 months ago

        Well with the only diference that they both used closed source code. So both of them were on their own.

          • @mariusafa
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            410 months ago

            Well then even better! Humanity achived all of that by mutual colaboration!! How great!!

            Science has no political views still in the cold war! Cool.

            • panopticon [comrade/them]
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              3110 months ago

              The point is that national chauvinism in the US touts the moon landing as the ultimate victory, and that glosses over the accomplishments of the USSR, keeping people here ignorant of the potential of alternative political-economic systems, allowing propaganda to get away with lies like “communism means no innovation”

              But you’re obviously not ignorant of that, you posted “COPIUM” just to be an ass