• Coelacanth
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      181 month ago

      I can’t believe the old cold war fears of a Russian invasion of Sweden are actually coming true. Thanks, America. Fucking hell.

      • capital
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        -111 month ago

        I’m getting a bit of whiplash here.

        The sentiment on Lemmy is usually that we should stop being the world police.

        Personally, I think that would make for a worse outcome and I guess we’re gonna find out.

        • @Revan343@lemmy.ca
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          141 month ago

          When people want America to stop playing world police, they mean stop invading other countries, not stop supporting allied countries that are being invaded

          • capital
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            -21 month ago

            I get the impression that people don’t like the fact our military is as big as it is. And “Why are you over here in $country?”

            If Trump actually executes what I believe most conservatives want and we pull back from being the world police, people will quickly realize the value. It just might be too late by that point.

            • @angrystego@lemmy.world
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              31 month ago

              That depends on the country and local experience with the US, which differes a lot. When it comes to Europe, US presence in NATO is crucial for the region’s security since WW2.

              • capital
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                21 month ago

                Besides what is required of us due to NATO (really REALLY hope we don’t pull out of that) we dot a lot of other ancillary force projection.

                This could be unfounded fears but I worry the US won’t be the ones who directly feel the affects if it does happen.

            • @barryamelton@lemmy.world
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              11 month ago

              If the US is not going to protect its allies, then it should stop blocking its allies from getting nuclear bombs via the non proliferation treaty, or stop getting annoyed that the increases of GDP for the military aren’t spent in US defends contractors but in local ones.

        • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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          21 month ago

          Yeah they don’t want America to be the World Police, cuz police don’t protect people. Protecting our allies isn’t policing.

    • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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      -171 month ago

      Where has he said he wants to stop helping Ukraine? Haven’t he been quite vocal about wanting to end the war?

        • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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          1 month ago

          No, stopping US military aid will definitely not stop the war and I’m not aware of Trump even claiming he is going to end military aid. Disinformation until proven otherwise.

          • @ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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            111 month ago

            Don’t mistake your lack of knowledge with reality. You could have spent less time on a search engine educating yourself than it took you to spout off about disinformation.

          • @ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol
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            81 month ago

            Trump has said many things about Ukraine. Gotta look at his actions :| he did get impeached for something involving Ukraine…

            • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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              -51 month ago

              If he had said that you’d link me an article. He haven’t so you lie about it and justify it with orange man bad. Just shows how disinfo is spread by both sides.