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You’re barking up the wrong tree. I understand Hamas as a resistance organization to nearly a century of military occupation, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing. All for the purpose of some 16th century colonialist idea of racial superiority.
But America ain’t there yet. So flying the colors of Hamas, spray painting their name, and wearing the red triangle are all things that force politicians to respond in a specific way. And unless someone figures out they were infiltrators or the photos were photoshopped then the organizers screwed up. When I marched with pro Palestinian groups earlier this year the organizers were on top of preventing that.
The biggest thing we can do going forward isn’t to lament a boiler plate statement, it’s to educate people on why Hamas exists in the first place.
Okay, so when I searched before I didn’t find any Hamas flags in the protest. Google is fucking garbage these days.
Mea culpa.
That said, she didn’t have to condemn everyone. She’s running against Donald “very fine people on both sides” Trump. He knows he needs to speak to the extremes in his base to win, it’s why he got even more votes in 2020 than in 2016, and she needs to speak to her own base too. Instead, she threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Whatever. Maybe she’s just a coward and not willing to take a stand that would get attacked in the media. There’s a reason she won’t use the words “genocide” or “apartheid” or “settler-colonialism” or “war criminal”…
Let’s see who her VP is, because if it’s Josh “volunteered for the IDF” Shapiro then it’s clear as day she’s pro-genocide
(As an aside, flying Hamas’s colors does help to educate people about anticolonial resistance - it’s provocative, not wrong)
Read her statement. She condemns and condemns and condemns, and doesn’t say anything about support for any of the protesters. She merely came out in support of protest as a general concept, but you can hardly read that as her supporting the right to protest against Israel or Netanyahu.
This is a convoluted uncharitable interpretation. She specifically condemns support of pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric. It’s disingenuous to read that as blanket condemnation of all pro-Palestinian protesters.
Trump got that name trying to split that hair. And yeah I get the difference between the groups. But the entire point here is the American electorate at large doesn’t.
It’s never been the big politicians who lead movements in the US, unless they came into office because of a movement. Even JFK didn’t do civil rights until the movement was big enough.
The protest organizers let people march with Hamas flags and icons. That’s not acceptable in the current political climate.
Dude.
Those were Palestinian flags.
Hamas Flag
Palestinian Flag
Any questions?
You’re barking up the wrong tree. I understand Hamas as a resistance organization to nearly a century of military occupation, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing. All for the purpose of some 16th century colonialist idea of racial superiority.
But America ain’t there yet. So flying the colors of Hamas, spray painting their name, and wearing the red triangle are all things that force politicians to respond in a specific way. And unless someone figures out they were infiltrators or the photos were photoshopped then the organizers screwed up. When I marched with pro Palestinian groups earlier this year the organizers were on top of preventing that.
The biggest thing we can do going forward isn’t to lament a boiler plate statement, it’s to educate people on why Hamas exists in the first place.
Okay, so when I searched before I didn’t find any Hamas flags in the protest. Google is fucking garbage these days.
Mea culpa.
That said, she didn’t have to condemn everyone. She’s running against Donald “very fine people on both sides” Trump. He knows he needs to speak to the extremes in his base to win, it’s why he got even more votes in 2020 than in 2016, and she needs to speak to her own base too. Instead, she threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Whatever. Maybe she’s just a coward and not willing to take a stand that would get attacked in the media. There’s a reason she won’t use the words “genocide” or “apartheid” or “settler-colonialism” or “war criminal”…
Let’s see who her VP is, because if it’s Josh “volunteered for the IDF” Shapiro then it’s clear as day she’s pro-genocide
(As an aside, flying Hamas’s colors does help to educate people about anticolonial resistance - it’s provocative, not wrong)
Then it’s a good thing she didn’t, and specifically singled out pro-Hamas sentiment.
She did not come out in support for any of the protesters, she condemned them all equally.
But, like I said, let’s see if she chooses Josh Shapiro. That’ll tell us what we need to know.
This is just plain false.
Read her statement. She condemns and condemns and condemns, and doesn’t say anything about support for any of the protesters. She merely came out in support of protest as a general concept, but you can hardly read that as her supporting the right to protest against Israel or Netanyahu.
This is a convoluted uncharitable interpretation. She specifically condemns support of pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric. It’s disingenuous to read that as blanket condemnation of all pro-Palestinian protesters.
Trump got that name trying to split that hair. And yeah I get the difference between the groups. But the entire point here is the American electorate at large doesn’t.
And the American electorate never will get the difference if politicians are too cowardly to make a stand.
But Trump got more votes after trying to split that hair. It worked. It’s not even a bad strategic move.
It’s never been the big politicians who lead movements in the US, unless they came into office because of a movement. Even JFK didn’t do civil rights until the movement was big enough.
Yes, because US politicians are always opposed to change until it is forced upon them.
Yet in other countries political figures can, in fact, lead political movements. Why is the US different?
Because the system is different.