Morherfucker Biden has Trump beat on deportation numbers, record police funding, RICO prosecutions of leftist activists, oil and carbon expansion, number of wars started and oh yeah GENOCIDE
In what universe is that not the definition of accelerationism, the one saving grace of Trump is the ease and magnitude at which resistence to his policies and general admin style manifest both domestically and internationally, to the point he couldn’t even build a show wall on the border
The same is not true for dem presidencies, precisely because of fuckers like you who after blue inaugurations put on the blinders and start cheerleading for dems who keep and even expand republican policies
You blue nazis normalized genocide and are now demanding people who are actual human beings to tacitly endorse said genocide by voting for a rotting zionist lich who’s DEFINITELY gonna lose???
Seriously lemmy take your dipshit “assumptions” and fuck all the way off
It’s not the action, but the goal. The actions you describe are indefensible, but the goal of those actions is not societal destabilization.
Wtf is this gibberish? The ACTIONS are the causal factors leading to “societal destabilization”, are you saying the genocide and taking on board Trump’s immigration policy is fine in the long run because the intentions or “goals” are good? Wtf are you talking about you disgusting little shit?
I don’t like for anyone to know who I am, but my face and my name is on my city’s YouTube channel dressing down my entire city council for inaction over a ceasefire resolution - which they then fucking passed. A Palestine flag has been flying outside my house for months. Go read my comment history. Between the hilarious stories of personal tragedy, you’ll find an unwavering position.
You’re a piss poor liar and a fraud, a fake-ass reddit clown, all that nonsense chest-thumping is rendered meaningless the minute you accept the conditions of the DNC, if the beginning of any statement implies or begins with “Yes Joe Biden committed genocide…BUT” then that explicitly defines genocide as conditional and open to negotiation, the absolute definition of a wavering position
Not only have you DONE NOTHING, but you’ve explicitly endorsed genocide, YOU helped normalize it and no amount of post facto bargaining is gonna wash the blood off your hands fool
You have no credibility with your generalizations
lmao you dumb fuck that’s the best you got? “Boo hoo”??? you’re crying about how we need to normalize genocide while sitting there pretending like Joe Brandon has any chance of victory after June 27th and you want to talk about credibility? You’re so blinded and twisted up by political resentment you don’t even realize your political cohort is in the middle of a civil war to oust the rotten lich you elevated as a figure of praxis activism
Wake the fuck up, stop trying to “own the tankies” for five seconds and go watch some mainstream coverage, maybe then the gears in your capitulationist skull will finally figure out you’ve just been a rube for a political class who doesn’t give a fuck about your morally compromised ass
I believe it will be a piecemeal disassembly of everything that isn’t whatever their cultural ideal is. Slow, systemic, and not at a pace where any one group can incense the rest into fighting for them.
It’s genuinely incredible that you can’t recognize you’re talking about yourself here, YOU are part of a political cohort that is attempting to normalize and justify genocide in the name of fuckin harm reduction, willfully ignorant of the fact the Biden admin has played an accelerationist role in US and international politics; record deportations, record police funding, RICO prosecutions of leftist activists, oil and carbon expansion, wars, genocide. These aren’t abstract concepts, these are objective facts and there is no way to triangulate around them, because the perpetrators don’t even care enough to try, they instead rely on capitulationists like you to cheerlead and sanitize horrors we can all see plain as day
Today it’s Palestine, tomorrow who’s it gonna be, hmm? What’s groups are eligible in your vaunted view for sacrificial duty to preserve this “flawed (mostly pretend) democracy”, how many groups need to be put on the chopping block before your self-centered weepy ass realizes you’re already goose-stepping with the fascists, how many times are you gonna die coward?
You know what really disgusts me about you scumbags, it’s the utter lack of courage or even rudimentary conviction, you people make a virtue of moral cowardice, forsaking solidarity in the name of illusionary political advantage, proudly proclaiming your willingness to push others in front of danger while hilariously labeling yourselves “realists” despite the fact the elites you worship laugh in your faces (Biden: “As long as I know I did my best, I’m happy”)
You’re a worthless lotus eater with no beliefs or politics, piss off
In what universe is that not the definition of accelerationism.
This one.
So you don’t have an answer then? Neat. Go watch the west wing for 7th time.
Its not the action, but the goal. The actions you describe are indefensible, but the goal of those actions is not societal destabilization.
The purpose of a system is what it does. I don’t give a shit about the idealistic ends some demented war criminal thinks will come about, I care about the actual results of their actions which is destabilisation.
Not gonna engage with the rest of your text where you show your hand as a condescending smuglord. Its clear you have no capability to engage with others except to condescend from an imagined position of ideological superiority placed upon a corpse throne of all the people Biden are murdering (you’re safe tho, so it’s fine!)
Cum
A capitalist trying to grow capitalism is just greed unless they’re trying to grow capitalism to destabilize society.
lmao you honestly thought that was a profound statement didn’t you?
Embracing rapid technological growth for the sake of improving society is contrary to destabilizing society.
Is that what you think Biden is going? Is that what you believe the Democratic Party is all about? Are you gonna start preaching about blockchain next?
Infrastructure sabotage for literally any other reason than societal destabilization - and even if the goal is societal destabilization, if it’s done as part of state actions during wartime or for the sake of committing genocide - then it is not accelerationism.
Is English your second language, again wtf is this gibberish? “Infrastructure sabotage”? “Action without accelerationism”??? It’s hilarious the extent to which you’re twisting yourself into a incoherent pretzel just for the sake of triangulating a vague-ass defense of genocide
Propping up a demented, rotting, genocidal lich king with worse policies than Trump is by your own tortured metrics and the fake metrics of most libs an accelerationist position, but you’re still living in the pre-June 27th lib-world where Biden didn’t lose all hope of beating Trump, and now you’re coping because without the whole “Only Biden can beat Trump” narrative, you dipshits have nothing to fall back on except drawing attention to Biden’s genocide or his Trumpian record
It’s honestly been fascinating watching you contort yourself using increasingly bizarre definitions of accelerationism and completely butchering the concept of cause and effect, lmao stay coping shitlib
I’m so fucking sick of people pretending that the best way to deal with our damaged and failing democracy is to not oppose the ones accelerating the failure.
When both major candidates are accelerating the failure, a solution outside of the major candidates is necessary. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for an evil. You can absolutely believe that harm reduction is a good thing, but to act as though it is sufficient to vote for a less evil candidate and not organize on the ground outside the electoral system is naiive.
My assumptions about people who embrace this ideology is that they think being straight white men will spare them and their loved ones when Christian fascists look to enforce their religious ethnostate. Maybe that will work, but what about when they cut all the rest of the social programs, wipe out worker protections/decrease wages to sustainable level, and destroy the environment for the sake of their corporate overlords?
Are these assumptions grounded in statistical analysis, or did you imagine a situation that fits with your world view and believe it as though it were real? There are many trans and POC comrades who disagree with you here.
Secondly, Social Programs are being cut, worker protections are weakening, wages are stagnating, and the environment is being destroyed. Trump may be worse on these, but again, simply voting for a slower rate is not sufficient.
Or they believe the people, after decades of stagnating wages, faltering education, and concerted efforts to divide us socially will all unite with our kitchen cutlery to overthrow a nation backed by the largest fucking military on the planet - and that if those efforts are successful, that the resulting political reorganization won’t just be co-opted by the cooperations that control the media and have already written a new fucking constitution.
You should read The State and Revolution. This is not the strategy or analysis Marxists have, you are again concocting an imagined scenario to fit your world view.
Whether they play or not, they’re in the game. But the approach they’ve taken just helps the folks who want to make things worse for them. We are super, super fucked.
Pretending that not participating is the morally correct play is denial backed by propaganda.
Again, stating that Voting is perhaps the least effective way to oppose fascism does not mean you should not vote, nor does it mean you should not work outside the electoral system. Rather, it’s the opposite! Someone who votes alone is far less effective than someone who actively contributes to organizational efforts and unionizing, but skips voting. Doing both is even better!
I agree with you.
I don’t only vote in every single election and argue with strangers online. I go to city council meetings. I email and call elected officials to argue policy. I design, print, and uh… distribute stickers with political messages around town. I’m directly involved with government transparency efforts, and I’m about to start prying at my local RCV group to figure out why they haven’t attempted to field a ballot initiative
This is all still well within the bounds of electoralism. Certainly more than most people can say, but it doesn’t truly get at the heart of what historically drives major change, ie organizing and directly contesting.
And, yes, my assumptions are purely assumptions, but they’re rational, I think - the majority of opinions here (or perhaps loudest voices) argue for not voting, and I cannot connect that sentiment to one that trans folks and/or POC would embrace, since that strategy helps the people who want to harm them. But your arguments - which I understand to be that folks should take action, openly acknowledge the failure of the current system, and still vote - would benefit trans/POC folk, and that does invalidate my demographic assumptions.
People here are largely not suggesting simply that change happens by sitting on your thumbs and not voting. People here are arguing that voting, and electoralism in general, is a lost cause for enacting positive change. You should spend a bit of time on Hexbear and see the demographics, the trans space here is one of the largest on Lemmy and one of the most active. I believe the last informal survey found around 40-50% of Hexbear is trans.
I have to be honest. I don’t think I’ll read The State and Revolution. I am interested in your viewpoint, but 100+ pages on a sort of weirdly organized website aren’t really something I think I’m capable of sticking through.
Is it a correct assumption, though, that your intent was to express that the revolution/change would occur through gradual and peaceful social change rather than violent revolution?
No, it’s not a correct assumption. Gradualism has never worked in the favor of the Working Class, historically. State and Revolution does not mean individual acts of terrorism are the way to go, either. The point of the text is that reform cannot work in a bourgeois democracy because the class in power will not relinquish power willingly. See what happened to Allende in Chile. Instead, revolution is more of an inevitability, so it’s up to leftists to prepare and organize so that the revolution can be properly steered. Occupy Wall Street is an example of a movement with no solid base. Same with Chaz.
I really do suggest reading Leftist theory, you can download State and Revolution and read it on an EReader if you like.
Pretending like not voting means you’re not doing anything is a logical fallacy. People aren’t arguing for nothing, they’re arguing that voting, at best, does nothing.
“You have to participate” sure, but only in a very specific way. You can’t vote for anyone other than these two candidates or your vote is “wasted” never mind the fact that both are creating the fascist hellscape you’re fearmongering about. The idea that voting for Biden does anything than further entrench a broken system is beyond flawed, it’s downright ridiculous! The “lesser evil” argument has been made since 1972 and all it has brought us is the devolution of so many civil rights political activists have fought for. We’re now at a point where the lesser evil is a more competent genocide.
Furthermore it’s ironic to try to use identity politics to argue for Biden, when it is only straight white men who might be able to consider themselves safe under his regime.
Voting for either of those two goons does nothing but legitimise their rule and confirm them in the fact that their people don’t care about genocide or deteriorating conditions as long as it’s their team in power.
If democracy was truly at stake, if the republicans were truly as dangerous (and treasonous) as you suggest, then Joe Biden should use his newly created presidential superpowers to have them all killed or at the very least imprisoned. The fact that he doesn’t, the fact that he does absolutely nothing to stop the people you’re scaremongering about (besides beg for your vote) means that he either doesn’t give a shit or that he knows it’s not as dire as people in his camp make it out to be.
Voting for Biden encourages genocide. Voting for a third party encourages opposition, not voting means you haven’t wasted an afternoon. Striking or sabotaging stops arms shipments going to Israel, as has already happened many times. We are however not in a discussion of what constitutes effective direct action, we’re in a discussion of why voting for Biden isn’t good.
You say this and then you go on to repeat the same arguments and ignore the “several points” I’ve made. Your attempt at rhetorics is poorly done.
The logic behind not voting is the same as the idiots who vote third party every presidential election, and then skip all the local elections. This is not the one you throw your vote away on.
You are repeating yourself and not addressing the arguments put forth about lesser-evilism.
Also the vote isn’t wasted, you just need to vote for them too. Tell your friends to vote for PSL and we might be able to beat Trump! (Since you’re denser than a brick golem in a tungsten mine: I’m being facetious)
And I’m not invoking identity politics.
You’re trying to use queer people and POC as a cudgel to hide behind, despite the fact that the only people who can consider themselves safe in Bidens America are straight white conservative men. You are invoking identity politics.
I’ m literally saying what the right has said they want to do, and saying that even if you don’t think you’ll be impacted, you’re wrong.
I am already impacted by Bidens America.
Your statement about Biden needs support.
Which one? I make a lot of statements.
And Democracy is at stake. Biden is a doddering old fool and the Democratic Party are a bunch of shills captive to their corporate donors.
I don’t disagree that whatever semblance of democracy the US has left is at stake. I just believe both candidates will destroy it.
But I’m still not going to be a party to facilitating the greater evil! What kind of stupidity is that?
They’re equally evil, which is the point several people have been trying to hammer into your dense skull. Biden has expanded several of Trumps policies, done nothing to roll back the harmful ones, ignored all the bs that isn’t being actively perpetrated by himself, attempted to provoke a war with China, perpetrated a genocide in Palestine, crushed strikes, done fuck all about the climate, given more money to cops, done fuck all to stop or reverse the overturning of Roe v Wade - which was the main argument we should vote for him last time - and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Sure democracy is at stake or whatever, but Biden won’t save it and according to himself, its not that dire: “I’ll feel as long as I gave it my all and I did the good job as I know I can do; that’s what this is about.”
Again you fail to engage with the argument you’ve been presented. You are actively facilitating the greater evil by perpetuating this “lesser evilism”. You are now legitimising genocide. Of course we shouldn’t care because you’re not the one at risk right now 👍
How powerful do you think you will be when the power to make ‘the rules’ is handed over to folks without any scruples?
Considering the fact that I already think they’ve been handed over to folks like that? Indifferent. At least people like you gave a shit when Trump had cops beat the shit out of protesters, or took away women’s bodily autonomy, or did harmful stuff to the climate, or put migrants in cages, or did needless foreign aggression.
It sounds like Joe Biden should really do something about this Trump guy. Wild its only now trump is jumping in to the picture, wish we’d had several years to deal with him. Oh well.
Sigh.
Gasp. Wheeze. Kerplunk.
It doesn’t matter anyway. The ruling that granted that power has been kicked to a lower court for additional rulings. After that it bounces to the Supreme Court in October, and they will wait until after the election to issue their opinion.
Wow, did the parliamentarian do this? Or was it Manchin or Sinema this time? Oh bother this poor Biden just can’t catch a break, he’s just a smol bean, completely powerless! Of course he needs to be in power or big scary meanie trump will get in, and then he will use the presidential powers (that Biden can’t) to become dictator! Poor Biden can’t do anything! Especially not about the supreme court! What is he going to do? There’s literally no precedent for presidents dealing with a supreme court they disagree with!
and people here will mock people like me, and say “Well, they were just freaking out for no reason, democracy prevailed!” Which is great and funny for you all until it fucking doesn’t.
Democracy is dead already buddy, we’ve been trying to tell you for a while. And we won’t tell you that, we’ll just send you a picture of a pig with shit on its testicles.
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And also - vote absentee if you can. Don’t ‘waste’ your afternoon. And if you live in some bumfuck backwater that discourages voter participation, then you have extra reason to fucking vote.
Only if I vote for your guy though! Or it’s wasted! Just this once though! Just this once, don’t be stupid and waste your vote on someone who represents you, waste it on Joe Biden so libs like you can live without fear while the rest of us get beat to shit.
Also only do it if you live in a swing state! Otherwise it’s pointless!
You did a shit job at engaging with any argument I presented, you just repeated yourself. Cum and also blocked
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Morherfucker Biden has Trump beat on deportation numbers, record police funding, RICO prosecutions of leftist activists, oil and carbon expansion, number of wars started and oh yeah GENOCIDE
In what universe is that not the definition of accelerationism, the one saving grace of Trump is the ease and magnitude at which resistence to his policies and general admin style manifest both domestically and internationally, to the point he couldn’t even build a show wall on the border
The same is not true for dem presidencies, precisely because of fuckers like you who after blue inaugurations put on the blinders and start cheerleading for dems who keep and even expand republican policies
You blue nazis normalized genocide and are now demanding people who are actual human beings to tacitly endorse said genocide by voting for a rotting zionist lich who’s DEFINITELY gonna lose???
Seriously lemmy take your dipshit “assumptions” and fuck all the way off
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Wtf is this gibberish? The ACTIONS are the causal factors leading to “societal destabilization”, are you saying the genocide and taking on board Trump’s immigration policy is fine in the long run because the intentions or “goals” are good? Wtf are you talking about you disgusting little shit?
You’re a piss poor liar and a fraud, a fake-ass reddit clown, all that nonsense chest-thumping is rendered meaningless the minute you accept the conditions of the DNC, if the beginning of any statement implies or begins with “Yes Joe Biden committed genocide…BUT” then that explicitly defines genocide as conditional and open to negotiation, the absolute definition of a wavering position
Not only have you DONE NOTHING, but you’ve explicitly endorsed genocide, YOU helped normalize it and no amount of post facto bargaining is gonna wash the blood off your hands fool
lmao you dumb fuck that’s the best you got? “Boo hoo”??? you’re crying about how we need to normalize genocide while sitting there pretending like Joe Brandon has any chance of victory after June 27th and you want to talk about credibility? You’re so blinded and twisted up by political resentment you don’t even realize your political cohort is in the middle of a civil war to oust the rotten lich you elevated as a figure of praxis activism
Wake the fuck up, stop trying to “own the tankies” for five seconds and go watch some mainstream coverage, maybe then the gears in your capitulationist skull will finally figure out you’ve just been a rube for a political class who doesn’t give a fuck about your morally compromised ass
yeah but they have a flag!
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It’s genuinely incredible that you can’t recognize you’re talking about yourself here, YOU are part of a political cohort that is attempting to normalize and justify genocide in the name of fuckin harm reduction, willfully ignorant of the fact the Biden admin has played an accelerationist role in US and international politics; record deportations, record police funding, RICO prosecutions of leftist activists, oil and carbon expansion, wars, genocide. These aren’t abstract concepts, these are objective facts and there is no way to triangulate around them, because the perpetrators don’t even care enough to try, they instead rely on capitulationists like you to cheerlead and sanitize horrors we can all see plain as day
Today it’s Palestine, tomorrow who’s it gonna be, hmm? What’s groups are eligible in your vaunted view for sacrificial duty to preserve this “flawed (mostly pretend) democracy”, how many groups need to be put on the chopping block before your self-centered weepy ass realizes you’re already goose-stepping with the fascists, how many times are you gonna die coward?
You know what really disgusts me about you scumbags, it’s the utter lack of courage or even rudimentary conviction, you people make a virtue of moral cowardice, forsaking solidarity in the name of illusionary political advantage, proudly proclaiming your willingness to push others in front of danger while hilariously labeling yourselves “realists” despite the fact the elites you worship laugh in your faces (Biden: “As long as I know I did my best, I’m happy”)
You’re a worthless lotus eater with no beliefs or politics, piss off![emoji PIGPOOPBALLS PIGPOOPBALLS](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/57e302c5-6368-4884-abb1-40ed173fc0be.png)
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Christ what a yap sesh
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Yap yap yap
I think you should join a communist party and work towards building some dual power
So you don’t have an answer then? Neat. Go watch the west wing for 7th time.
The purpose of a system is what it does. I don’t give a shit about the idealistic ends some demented war criminal thinks will come about, I care about the actual results of their actions which is destabilisation.
Not gonna engage with the rest of your text where you show your hand as a condescending smuglord. Its clear you have no capability to engage with others except to condescend from an imagined position of ideological superiority placed upon a corpse throne of all the people Biden are murdering (you’re safe tho, so it’s fine!)
Cum
exemplary way to end a post
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lmao you honestly thought that was a profound statement didn’t you?
Is that what you think Biden is going? Is that what you believe the Democratic Party is all about? Are you gonna start preaching about blockchain next?
Propping up a demented, rotting, genocidal lich king with worse policies than Trump is by your own tortured metrics and the fake metrics of most libs an accelerationist position, but you’re still living in the pre-June 27th lib-world where Biden didn’t lose all hope of beating Trump, and now you’re coping because without the whole “Only Biden can beat Trump” narrative, you dipshits have nothing to fall back on except drawing attention to Biden’s genocide or his Trumpian record
It’s honestly been fascinating watching you contort yourself using increasingly bizarre definitions of accelerationism and completely butchering the concept of cause and effect, lmao stay coping shitlib![emoji biaoqing-copium biaoqing-copium](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/91e41ce5-dbed-4ff9-86fe-68d7c30559fb.png)
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Genocidal scum
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Lmao are you a parrot? You’re just repeating yourself
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America deserved 9/11
much more than that really
When both major candidates are accelerating the failure, a solution outside of the major candidates is necessary. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for an evil. You can absolutely believe that harm reduction is a good thing, but to act as though it is sufficient to vote for a less evil candidate and not organize on the ground outside the electoral system is naiive.
Are these assumptions grounded in statistical analysis, or did you imagine a situation that fits with your world view and believe it as though it were real? There are many trans and POC comrades who disagree with you here.
Secondly, Social Programs are being cut, worker protections are weakening, wages are stagnating, and the environment is being destroyed. Trump may be worse on these, but again, simply voting for a slower rate is not sufficient.
You should read The State and Revolution. This is not the strategy or analysis Marxists have, you are again concocting an imagined scenario to fit your world view.
Again, stating that Voting is perhaps the least effective way to oppose fascism does not mean you should not vote, nor does it mean you should not work outside the electoral system. Rather, it’s the opposite! Someone who votes alone is far less effective than someone who actively contributes to organizational efforts and unionizing, but skips voting. Doing both is even better!
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This is all still well within the bounds of electoralism. Certainly more than most people can say, but it doesn’t truly get at the heart of what historically drives major change, ie organizing and directly contesting.
People here are largely not suggesting simply that change happens by sitting on your thumbs and not voting. People here are arguing that voting, and electoralism in general, is a lost cause for enacting positive change. You should spend a bit of time on Hexbear and see the demographics, the trans space here is one of the largest on Lemmy and one of the most active. I believe the last informal survey found around 40-50% of Hexbear is trans.
No, it’s not a correct assumption. Gradualism has never worked in the favor of the Working Class, historically. State and Revolution does not mean individual acts of terrorism are the way to go, either. The point of the text is that reform cannot work in a bourgeois democracy because the class in power will not relinquish power willingly. See what happened to Allende in Chile. Instead, revolution is more of an inevitability, so it’s up to leftists to prepare and organize so that the revolution can be properly steered. Occupy Wall Street is an example of a movement with no solid base. Same with Chaz.
I really do suggest reading Leftist theory, you can download State and Revolution and read it on an EReader if you like.
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Pretending like not voting means you’re not doing anything is a logical fallacy. People aren’t arguing for nothing, they’re arguing that voting, at best, does nothing.
“You have to participate” sure, but only in a very specific way. You can’t vote for anyone other than these two candidates or your vote is “wasted” never mind the fact that both are creating the fascist hellscape you’re fearmongering about. The idea that voting for Biden does anything than further entrench a broken system is beyond flawed, it’s downright ridiculous! The “lesser evil” argument has been made since 1972 and all it has brought us is the devolution of so many civil rights political activists have fought for. We’re now at a point where the lesser evil is a more competent genocide.
Furthermore it’s ironic to try to use identity politics to argue for Biden, when it is only straight white men who might be able to consider themselves safe under his regime.
Voting for either of those two goons does nothing but legitimise their rule and confirm them in the fact that their people don’t care about genocide or deteriorating conditions as long as it’s their team in power.
If democracy was truly at stake, if the republicans were truly as dangerous (and treasonous) as you suggest, then Joe Biden should use his newly created presidential superpowers to have them all killed or at the very least imprisoned. The fact that he doesn’t, the fact that he does absolutely nothing to stop the people you’re scaremongering about (besides beg for your vote) means that he either doesn’t give a shit or that he knows it’s not as dire as people in his camp make it out to be.
Voting for Biden encourages genocide. Voting for a third party encourages opposition, not voting means you haven’t wasted an afternoon. Striking or sabotaging stops arms shipments going to Israel, as has already happened many times. We are however not in a discussion of what constitutes effective direct action, we’re in a discussion of why voting for Biden isn’t good.
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You say this and then you go on to repeat the same arguments and ignore the “several points” I’ve made. Your attempt at rhetorics is poorly done.
You are repeating yourself and not addressing the arguments put forth about lesser-evilism.
Also the vote isn’t wasted, you just need to vote for them too. Tell your friends to vote for PSL and we might be able to beat Trump! (Since you’re denser than a brick golem in a tungsten mine: I’m being facetious)
You’re trying to use queer people and POC as a cudgel to hide behind, despite the fact that the only people who can consider themselves safe in Bidens America are straight white conservative men. You are invoking identity politics.
I am already impacted by Bidens America.
Which one? I make a lot of statements.
I don’t disagree that whatever semblance of democracy the US has left is at stake. I just believe both candidates will destroy it.
They’re equally evil, which is the point several people have been trying to hammer into your dense skull. Biden has expanded several of Trumps policies, done nothing to roll back the harmful ones, ignored all the bs that isn’t being actively perpetrated by himself, attempted to provoke a war with China, perpetrated a genocide in Palestine, crushed strikes, done fuck all about the climate, given more money to cops, done fuck all to stop or reverse the overturning of Roe v Wade - which was the main argument we should vote for him last time - and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Sure democracy is at stake or whatever, but Biden won’t save it and according to himself, its not that dire: “I’ll feel as long as I gave it my all and I did the good job as I know I can do; that’s what this is about.”
Again you fail to engage with the argument you’ve been presented. You are actively facilitating the greater evil by perpetuating this “lesser evilism”. You are now legitimising genocide. Of course we shouldn’t care because you’re not the one at risk right now 👍
Considering the fact that I already think they’ve been handed over to folks like that? Indifferent. At least people like you gave a shit when Trump had cops beat the shit out of protesters, or took away women’s bodily autonomy, or did harmful stuff to the climate, or put migrants in cages, or did needless foreign aggression.
It sounds like Joe Biden should really do something about this Trump guy. Wild its only now trump is jumping in to the picture, wish we’d had several years to deal with him. Oh well.
Gasp. Wheeze. Kerplunk.
Wow, did the parliamentarian do this? Or was it Manchin or Sinema this time? Oh bother this poor Biden just can’t catch a break, he’s just a smol bean, completely powerless! Of course he needs to be in power or big scary meanie trump will get in, and then he will use the presidential powers (that Biden can’t) to become dictator! Poor Biden can’t do anything! Especially not about the supreme court! What is he going to do? There’s literally no precedent for presidents dealing with a supreme court they disagree with!
Democracy is dead already buddy, we’ve been trying to tell you for a while. And we won’t tell you that, we’ll just send you a picture of a pig with shit on its testicles.
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Only if I vote for your guy though! Or it’s wasted! Just this once though! Just this once, don’t be stupid and waste your vote on someone who represents you, waste it on Joe Biden so libs like you can live without fear while the rest of us get beat to shit.
Also only do it if you live in a swing state! Otherwise it’s pointless!
You did a shit job at engaging with any argument I presented, you just repeated yourself. Cum and also blocked