• edge [he/him]
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    6727 days ago

    I imagine if the LTV got debunked we’d all have a good time never needing to work, since valuable goods apparently just appear out of nowhere.

    • duderium [he/him]
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      2727 days ago

      Yeah well what if you made something and no one wanted to buy it? Checkmate, tankie.

      • Egon [they/them]
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        27 days ago

        Labour is what gives something value, but not all labour is of value (see: Keir Starmer)

        • NPa [he/him]
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          926 days ago

          Keir Starmer couldn’t even make a proper mud-pie if he was living in a bog

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      2427 days ago

      since valuable goods apparently just appear out of nowhere.

      This is literally a foundational theory of mainstream liberal economic models, down in the bedrock where even econ grad students don’t get taught about it lmao.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        1727 days ago

        It’s odd that Marx was inspired by liberal economists, yet the ones we see today are the caricatures of capitalists we see in old timey propaganda

        • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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          1027 days ago

          LTV was the greatest achievement of classical liberal economy, but after developing it some more, they realised that by itself it is incredibly damning to the capitalist class and its further development points on socialism (like it led Marx to) and thus the pet economists since JS Mill took a step back into the current hamster wheel in which they still run almost 200 years later. It’s not coincidence that even liberal proponents and pioneers of LTV are forgotten (or never mentioned in the context of LTV) and bulk of even educated libs think it was sole invention of Marx - it allows them to claim entire scientific socialism is a cult and one single madman hypnosis over 1/3rd of humanity.