I thought you didn’t like new Accounts? You blasted me pretty good for having a new account just yesterday actually. Called me a bot and a troll. Was part of your whole strawman argument, remember? You didn’t address a single point, just chirped the age of my account. AND THEN YOU DELETED YOUR REPLY when I torched it with my rebuttal. Super accountable of you! My comment is still there, visible for all to see.

Nice job being another spineless American. Couldn’t even cut it on the internet. One more nasty, spineless American to add to the list. No wonder your country is getting rolled daily.

Yes, everyone is a bot. You’re right. And this is an alt account. Nice work Sherlock. I guess that makes everything I said incorrect? Because my account is 15 days old? Nice strawman.

I’ll entertain this so it’s in writing:

1. I had never heard of Lemmy until a few months ago. Why is that? Because I am actively divesting from US assets and companies. Why is that? Clearly Trump and the last 12 months.
2. I enjoyed Reddit. Quite a bit. I was reluctant to leave because of all subreddits I’d curated and they have great niche places. Their sports communities are second to none, for example.
3. I fully admit the first time I tried to setup Lemmy it was a fail. I went back to Reddit for another few months as a result.
4. Trump continues and continues to insult his allies and the 101 other things he’s done to make humanity worse off than the day before. So again I made a push to divest.
5. SO I TRIED LEMMY AGAIN. Imagine the horror, I had to make an account at some point. Apologies I wasn’t a super duper early adopter like you were. Frankly, if Trump isn’t President I never show up here at all.

Do yoy wanna run that through ChatGPT to make sure it’s authentic?

So back to the ACTUAL DISCUSSION POINT: This isn’t about my spine you idiot. I didn’t vote for him and I’m not an American citizen. YOU HAD THE CHANCE. He was voted out and then allowed to return. I had zero ability to influence any of that.

And because of your countries moral bankruptcy, now we are preparing to defend ourselves against an ‘ally’. Many nations are doing so.

Just going to ignore all that?

And finally, I AM PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY. AND I WILL ANSWER THE CALL WHEN THE TIME COMES. Even though I nor my nation had anything to do with the shit storm that is landing on our front step. Also while Americans themselves, who got us to this point, are being trampled on and not standing up for what is right. So yeah, if you guys did anything whatsoever, we wouldn’t be here. He was voted out ffs.

Back over to your strawman. But before you start again, let’s not forget letting that little J6 thing completely slide by without any consequence… what a joke.

EDIT: Calls me a bot and an alt, strawmans and then DELETES the comment outright. Guess that rebuttal was 10/10. Nice work @ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world

You are clearly not wrong. However, the question I would return with: if not violence, what mechanism for change will actually move a lever?

I’m certainly at my most pessimistic moment, but sincerely I don’t see how this changes for your countrymen at this point without violence…? What realistic compromise could we even draw up? The two sides are diametrically opposed. There isn’t common ground because there isn’t even a common reality. The legal system seems righed and there is no leadership. You have touched on some of these points yourself.

I’ll take a try at what a compromise might look like:

– Trump agrees to go door to door with Minnesota Police. This gurantees:

1. The process is done slowly and unchaotically. This is what MN wants.
2. Every single address is searched and the potential for immigrant removal is near 100%. This is what Trump wants.

This solution would save lives, but also give up significant civil liberties. It’s the best I can think up. Hopefully you are more creative than I am.

My last comment: I too have a family. And many extended family. And friends across Canada. It is on behalf of these people that I’m so passionate. And I can also appreciate your concerns also because of these same people. These are two sides of the same coin.

Talking about all you 2a fucks doing dick all. 40 years all I’ve heard is 2a this and 2a that. Turns out it was just an excuse for daily school shootings.

And we’re told in Canada how we don’t have freedom, we don’t have guns to defend ourselves, so on and so on. But when push comes to shove, it’s America that is 350 million bootlickers who eat Donald Trunps shit up and couldn’t be bothered to raise a finger.

But hey do another “No Kings” protest or some other useless shit. You have one every few months, right? Really moving the needle?

WAKE UP

All I’ve heard for 40 years of life is 2a this and 2a that. Turns out it was just an excuse for school shootings and gun nuts to keep their toys. Your answer is staring you in the face, whether you want to acknowledge or not is another thing.

Do you really believe the traditional channels will be of any use? Or have those already - long, long - been compromised?

Even if the channels had just been neutered yesterday, do yoy really think Trump would give back an inch? He’ll TACO all day on tariffs, but on human rights violations he is consistent - take and never return.

You’re platitudes are lovely, and in fairness, not even entirely incorrect. But what you, and eveidently millions and millions of Americans don’t seem to understand, is the milk has already been spilled. The how and the why are for scholars a hundred years from now to sort out. For today, tomorrow and the day after, y’all need to find a way to stop the continous slide. It’s not getting easier next week or the week after.

Label me WHATEVER you like that gets people’s ASSES IN GEAR. As angry as I am, amazingly enough I am still on your side. I should be flushing every bloody word an American speaks to me straight down the toilet after your Dear Leader and half the country shit on an ally in ways never seen before. Yet here I am, trying to propel you people to acknowlegde the real situation for what it is. Why is that? Truthfully, I’m selfish. I’d love to not have to take up arms to defend my border, but let’s be honest, that’s inevitable if Americans don’t clean up their own shit.

So before you come and tell me how smug and supercilious I’m being, take a moment to realize this - becuase of your people’s patently obvius shitty decisions, I have to enlist and potentially PUT MY LIFE ON THE LINE to defend my country against an ‘ally’. Pardon me for not giving a fuck about your spineless response and pages of assinine commentary.

GO DO SOMETHING.

Nailed it.

And absolutely nothing will happen. Nice job America!

Could yell amsome insane shit about hin eating dogs and cats. I mean it worked once?

It’s staggeringly impressive that alone didn’t tank his entire presidential hopes. Among the 1,000 other offenses to any sensible human.

And if that was staggeringly impressive, even moreso is that was for his SECOND TERM

The world is waiting for America to become a serious nation again. But we’re actually not waiting because we know that ship has sailed. You guys let J6 slide by ffs…

Good luck convincing a single spineless American to do the right thing.

C’mon guys, they totally couldn’t see it coming. He only had his first term of insanity, then campaigned on being a dictator. So they brought him back. Can’t blame the poor spineless American rubes after all.

/s

When do you people WAKE UP? What accountability? What responsibility? When in the last decade plus has any if that happened?

I’m sure it’s just around the corner…

Open your damn eyes. The entire planet can see it, why are Americans so blind?l is it intentional? You guys let J6 slide ffs, why would there be an ounce of accountability now or ever? UNREAL

So this is when the revolt happens right? Surely this is the last straw, right America?

Or is he just joking again? Because words don’t matter and he tweets his policy notes.

I’ll sit and wait for the spineless Americans to rise up against tyranny, 2a and all the other self-aggrandizing bullshit you bootlickers spew.

While I am a newer account, it’s only because I am new to Lemmy. I’m sick and tired of watching spineless Americans do shit all day after day, year after year when this has been going on since 2016. In fact, you losers voted the clownshow BACK IN after 1,000 aggressions to every walk of life on the planet. And to top it off, the rest of the planet is significantly affected by this. You can’t even keep your own lunatic to your own circus.

BUT THIS is the moment it all changes right?

Want to know what will actually happen? There will be a nice protest, maybe a whole 1%-2% of the population, and then ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE. AT ANY POINT. There are Brown Shirts in the streets right now and this is the best you’ve got.

You guys let J6 slide by. Completely repercussion free. That was broadcast on a million cameras across the world and was clear as day. But yes, this is the time it changes. Go get’em Tiger!

I’ll be here to defend Canadian sovereignty when the time comes to confront your American goons. With Greenland “wrapping up” today, I’m sure the Canadian conversation begins next week? Maybe this weekend even? But know while you all sit on your thumbs there is a Nation of us ready to actually make a change.

And the crowd goes wild! Spineless Americans just love this shit. What a nasty country it’s become. Maybe always has been.

Awwww yeah, more Americans pretending to do something! Been hearing about 2a for my entire life, the Brown Shirts are on the street disappearing people, and here’s a toothless protest for everyone to feel good about. I’m sure it will change everything!

Turns out 2a is just an excuse to enable school shootings and gun nuts to keep their toys. Any other rationale is a lie. Brown Shirts terorrizing the streets proves that.

A truly great American, the most spineless of the spineless! Truly something they can all look up and aspire to. Keep showing them how it’s done Fled!

They wanted a meme president (again) and they got a meme president (again). Those uneducated mouth breathers love it and want more of it. Forget governing, just own the libs bruh