“with wind the single-biggest contributor… Power production costs have declined “by almost half” … And the clean energy sector has created 50,000 new jobs… Ask me what was the impact on the electricity sector in Uruguay after this tragic war in Europe — zero.”

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    I actually never thought of it like that, if you’re not partaking in the trade of fossil fuels, you are removing yourself from a lot of potential conflicts and “who support who” ordeals.

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      One of the main reasons the big players want (or even need) as many people globally to remain dependent on it as possible - control.

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          Germany has the most renewables per capita of any European nation and have been heavy investors for a long time now.

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            They are a bit better now, but especially during Merkel were some heavy stones laid on the way for wind. Ok, i admit, they are good in private solar now.

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          Ironically it’s the US and German subsidies that kickstarted solar and brought costs down.

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        Yes, people like us might see this as a necessary mechanism with very bad side effects, and offer replacements which wouldn’t have those side effects.

        While some people in charge might see those side effects as the main reason to use that mechanism.

        If most of the planet goes for renewable energy, dynamics of power are going to become more fluid. Owning some geological massif, which is a rather stable and controllable thing, will matter much less. Attracting and managing expertise will matter even more.

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      Yes, I think that one of the side effect of the war in Ukraine will be a big increase of renewables energy in Europe.

      European countries started to realize how fragile their energy supply is and how dangerous it is.

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        Sadly, in the meantime it also mean a surge of imports of fossil fuels from other countries and reopening extraction sites in EU. Reducing fossil fuel dependency really is the top priority of EU, not only for ecology but also for peace and for the economy.

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          We call it Aladdin’s revenge. Turning the blanket into a flying carpet and all that.

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        We’ll control the wind and rain. It was a saying in soviet block during cold war and elites really thought they would. By spraying chemicals in clouds etc. Disgusting.

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          What’s disgusting about this?

          Also Soviet agriculture, say, used anti-hail rockets to prevent conditions for hail from forming.

          It was both useful for agriculture in mountainous regions and also allowed people in places like NK to arm themselves with something relatively long-range when they had to fight for their lives.

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        Except once you have the turbines and panels, you don’t have to keep importing resources to run them. Sure, you might need parts for maintenance, but if things go south it’s a lot easier to reverse engineer parts than to find new oil suppliers.

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        Only because they produce them the cheapest and in the largest quantities (which goes hand in hand).

        Basically any country can produce solar panels and wind turbines. Both technology and resource wise.

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      Maybe not entirely, you are still going to be affected indirectly, those are global crises.

      Also in a conflict involving you as one of the sides the other side may use their fuel trade connections to a great effect.

      But one thing hard to argue is that you don’t have to do the “say we are a respectable partner and not a bunch of cannibals or we’ll make your economy hurt” thing if the bunch of cannibals can’t make your economy hurt.