• Andy@slrpnk.net
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    2 years ago

    I’m gonna be the guy to say why I don’t like this.

    1. Anytime I see someone apply dehumanizing language to a group of people – no matter how vile – I immediately wonder if this person is motivated by a desire to protect anything or if they are just excited to have found an outlet that allows them to indulge violent desires without jeopardizing their social standing.

    2. This is precisely the type of message and messenger the FBI uses to infiltrate and entrap antifacists. OP, I think it’s very unlikely that you’re an undercover FBI informant, but you should read up about Micky Windecker, because you’re wearing the uniform of an FBI informant and their targets.

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      2 years ago

      or if they are just excited to have found an outlet that allows them to indulge violent desires without jeopardizing their social standing.

      I get why people are dunking on this but for real, spend two seconds in a “pedophile hunter” community and tell me this isn’t true.

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        I used to roll with people like that and no, they are not bloodthirsty savages the way he’s trying to stereotype anyone who doesn’t agree with him. They’re actually very patient, methodical people because they have to be. The stereotype is absurd and falls flat on its face with even a second’s worth of thought applied to it.

        And that’s the point – his stereotyping is not a rational argument or a good point, it’s meant to remind people of propaganda on the issue they were exposed to all their lives, to trigger an emotional reaction in others, to shut down our critical thinking to lessen the likelihood we’ll reject his insane demands.

        It’s all just fascist propaganda. That’s all it’s ever been.

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          I don’t think it’s bunk to say that many people join these types of communities to enact violent tendencies in a socially acceptable way. This is something that’s been seen before. For example, many Italian anarchists quickly jumped over to the fascists’ side when Mussolini came to power, and a common hypothesis as to why is that they initially joined the anarchists for a chance to commit violent acts in the name of revolution.

          I also don’t think it’s far-fetched to say that it’s a good idea to keep these types of people at arm’s length, because it’s likely you won’t be able to rely on them when things start going south.

          Edit: sorry, I did just see this comment is a year and a half old. Apologies on giving you a ping that long after.

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          I used to roll with people like that and no, they are not bloodthirsty savages

          Fair enough, I have no doubt there are stable individuals that do it purely on the basis of protecting children, improving the community, maybe even rehabilitating the mentally ill.

          I was talking more like the YouTube channel People vs. Preds, who seem to be more interested in the money and fame. They escalate for the views and then all their evidence gets denied in court for not taking proper legal steps. The comments on their videos are vile. You can’t help but think some of these people are only here because this is the acceptable hate.

          And that’s the point – his stereotyping is not a rational argument or a good point, it’s meant to remind people of propaganda on the issue they were exposed to all their lives, to trigger an emotional reaction in others, to shut down our critical thinking to lessen the likelihood we’ll reject his insane demands.

          …what demands?

          • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
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            spend two seconds in a “pedophile hunter” community and tell me this isn’t true.

            I was talking more like the YouTube channel People vs. Preds,

            No you’re not. You’re backtracking when called out on a lie. Stop fucking lying.

            …what demands?

            Yeah, playing stupid won’t work with me, chump. We both know damn well what you’re doing: using every rhetorical trick in the book to stop the left adopting violence because you and I both know it’s the only chance they have of stopping the fascists from taking over the country completely, and you don’t want that.

            Well, it’s not going to work because no one here is dumb enough to fall for it, and for that I am glad.