• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    10 hours ago

    It’s worth noting that the ideology of the DPRK is Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism, or juche socialism. This is an ideology that is connected with Marxism-Leninism, and accepts it as basically correct but overall incomplete, and as such Kim Jong-Il broke the historical connection with Marxism-Leninism and maintained that juche is an original revolutionary idea. So still socialist, still based on dialectical materialism, but unique historically and distinct enough for the Korean people themselves to designate it as their own idea.

    I see it as similar to how the Zapatistas were influenced by a large number of ideologies, but ultimately claim that their ideology is Zapatismo, not Marxism, not anarchism. Juche is far closer to Marxism-Leninism than Zapatismo is, of course, but as both are primarily indigenous movements it is a bit chauvanist to project Marxism/anarchism onto these movements.

    Juche is also far more comprehensible than most people think, I recommend reading through the entire prolewiki page I linked, not just the section on the relation to Marxism-Leninism.

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      but as both are primarily indigenous movements it is a bit chauvanist to project Marxism/anarchism onto these movements.

      i had the same thought about how we describe bolivarianism as marxism when it’s a contemporary to marxism.

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        I don’t really describe them as Marxist, nor do I think Marxists generally do. I think Marxists support the Bolivarian revolution, but recognize it as its own thing.

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          but they do – or atleast the high placed ones like chavez and maduro said it was.

          so it begs the question is it still chauvinist to project marxism onto a non-marxist movement when it’s people (or atleast a significant number of them) believe themselves to be part of a marxist movement?

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      the dynastic ruler of a state

      Source: the same people who told me Hamas beheaded babies and Iraq had nukes