• Wilco@lemmy.zip
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    These Republicans were actually Liberals, this was the “Party of Lincoln”. The democrats at the time were conservatives.

    The political poles literally flipped around 1965.

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      For those wondering, it wasn’t some quick, clean swap. It lasted from the 30’s through the 60’s, so when conservatives say “oh yeah, but what about…”, their tiny rat brains can’t imagine that it took conservatives over 30 years to steal the Republican Party from the progressives. They called their theft The Southern Strategy and made little secret of it.

      Conservatives have always been evil and will always be evil. Always.

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        It’s actually still happening. There are democrats in backwards places in local government that never changed.

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          They still run conservatives in progressive clothing in modern elections because they can’t win by being honest about hating human rights.

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      The political poles literally flipped around 1965.

      How would you reconcile that statement with the Democratic Party under FDR (well before 1965?)

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        The conservative Democratic Party base in the south absolutely hated FDR. He won the conservative Dem vote in the north because he promised to bring them out of poverty. But, he was a progressive in conservative clothes when it came to human rights. Conservatives absolutely despised him for being a dedent human, but he did save them (and the rest of the nation) from poverty.

        FDR winning as a Dem was the beginning of a 40 year trend of conservative candidates leaving the Dem party in disgust and running as Republicans, especially in the south where a Republican could normally never win (because Republicans were historically the progressives).

        Conservatives were stealing the Republican party from the progressives and simultaneously punishing the (normally conservative) Democratic party for not being bigoted enough. These confusing election fights happened throughout the south (and eventually the north) for decades.

        By the 60’s, conservatives couldn’t hide all their deception in elections and just started doing it in the open, calling it their “Southern Strategy” as if they were clever strategists and not lying, racist traitors trying to confuse voters and steal an entire political party.

        The party swap was fully complete by the late 60’s. Conservatives immediately started taking credit for freeing the slaves, because all conservatives are pathological liars. Always have been and always will be.

      • Leviathan@lemmy.world
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        The center used to be way farther to the left. Both parties needed to cater to the working class. Modern conservatism is bullshit.

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    Last military leader with military experience and the only one since to earnestly speak out against the military industrial complex.

    He’s a legitimately interesting dude.

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        Jfk was al not a military leader in the military, he was a serviceman in a minor role. Eisenhower was a literal general and was in leadership roles from 1918 to 1945ish iirc. ≠ jfk had a military understanding whereas Eisenhower had military leadership experience which is why I phrased it the way I did.

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          Okay I see now what you meant. However, what you said was “last military leader with military experience”. JFK was commander in chief as the president (I.e., military leader) and was in the military (I.e., military experience).

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        Kennedy won a medalmof Honor for his service. George HW Bush was shot down in WWII.

        But neither were military leaders, which is what I think he was referring to. Ike was the commander of the largest military alliance in the history of the world prior to becoming President. When he spoke out against the MIC, he did it from a position of absolute understanding.

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      This prompted those groups to re-brand themselves into the tech sector based in a valley in California.

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      I don’t know a lot about him, and I’m fairly confident that I’d think he was an imperialist chud, but I rember his fairwell address being kinda based in a lot of ways:

      In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

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    Perfect example of why the political party system is pointless. I’d argue if anything it’s a tool used to undermine the whole democratic process

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      I agree; particularly the two party system we have. It effectively splits us into teams fighting each other instead of those in power.

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      The town of Cheran in Mexico got rid of their corrupt mayor who is in the pocket of cartels. They also got rid of political parties because they believe it only cause divisions. The town then adopted an anarchist system whereby they elect a leader once a year. They set up their own militia patrols. So far, they’ve been successful.

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      Haha yeah we should have a single party compose only of workers with representatives paid only as much as their average constituant and subject to instant recall 👀

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        That would be AuThOrItArIaN!

        Anyway, you have to Vote Blue NO MATTER WHO!!!

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          You believe in an authoritarian state. Yes it would be authoritarian if you install a dictator. It doesn’t matter how communist the state is. Like, that’s your whole mo.

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            You trust in the dictatorship of capital, and it has convinced you to worship at its feet.

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              Riddle me this. When the USSR collapsed and the state assets were sold off to private entities. Who were those entities?

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                  You did not answer my question.

                  The Russian government believed that the open sale of state-owned assets, as opposed to the voucher program, would have likely resulted in the further concentration of ownership among the Russian mafia and the nomenklatura, which they sought to avoid. Nevertheless, contrary to the government’s expectations, insiders managed to acquire control over most of the assets, which remained largely dependent on government support for years to come.

                  Because most people were not well-informed about the nature of the program or were very poor, they were quick to sell their vouchers for money, unprepared or unwilling to invest.[18] Most vouchers—and, hence, most shares—wound up being acquired by the management of the enterprises. Although Russia’s initial privatization legislation attracted widespread popular support given its promise to distribute the national wealth among the general public and ordinary employees of the privatized enterprises, eventually the public felt deceived, with most people selling their vouchers to survive the economic collapse following the soviet dissolution.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization_in_Russia

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    The same president who warned of the rise of the military-industrial complex.

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      “Lost the plot” would suggest there was an accident or mistake at some point. They tied the plot up and left it gagged in a disused gas station restroom off the freeway in the middle of nowhere, after assaulting it with a rusty tire iron.

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    Banana republic man. Love to see some great party switch content.

    At some point in time both parties were equally racist, blood-thirsty and anti-communist, then the Republican party went above and beyond for more votes.

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      As others have said, this just before parties kind of “traded” ideals. So democrats were closer in beliefs to modern republicans.