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China has imposed a range of sweeping new rules restricting travel in and out of the country in a move that observers say will give the government even more control over its citizens.

Citizens deemed to have “harmed” China’s national security or interests while overseas can also be barred from leaving China for up to three years.

But the law also says that it will apply to anyone considered a threat to the country’s industrial or technological security.

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Under the new rules, border officials are now also required to advise Chinese nationals against travelling to countries and regions deemed “high-risk”.

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But even prior to the rules being announced, some people were already restricted from going to certain countries. Civil servants were among the earliest groups subjected to these controls, which later expanded to include state-owned enterprise employees and ordinary citizens.

A retired grassroots civil servant in Anhui told BBC Chinese that around 2018, his workplace made employees surrender their passports. His passport remains in the custody of his former employer even though he retired last year.

According to the ex-civil servant, employees had to apply and explain their reasons for overseas travel, and not all requests were approved.

For example, trips to visit relatives were more likely to be approved than tourism trips, he said.

“It is mainly to prevent corrupt officials from fleeing or transferring assets abroad,” he said. “For more senior officials, it may also be intended to prevent the disclosure of state secrets.”

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A man identified by his pseudonym, Xiao Wang, who works at a state-owned financial institution in Beijing, told BBC Chinese that his fellow employees have long been required to surrender their passports and get approval for overseas travel.

The 32-year-old said managers have verbally reminded staff that “sensitive countries such as Japan are definitely off-limits”.

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The rules could also affect citizens who work in areas such as human rights, say analysts.

“This is another tool designed to control what Chinese citizens do and say overseas,” said Professor Tom Kellogg, Executive Director of the Center for Asian Law at Georgetown University.

“In some cases, in order to prevent individuals from criticising the Chinese government overseas or to punish their rights advocacy activities, state security authorities directly refuse to issue passports.”

One 26-year-old Chinese citizen, who wished to be identified only as Pipi, told BBC Chinese that his passport application in 2023 was rejected and he believes it was because he attended the massive pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong in 2019.

According to Pipi, he was interviewed by Hong Kong media outlets during the protests. When he returned to mainland China, he was questioned by state security police.

He said one immigration official told him that he could not get a passport “because of the Hong Kong issue” – but this was not confirmed in writing to him.

“I don’t know whether I’ll ever be able to leave [China],” he said.

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  • pinto@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    Chinese billionaires working for the state good! Marx said so!! The state will wither away after another billionaire!

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      22 hours ago

      Do you have an actual rebuttal to my points? Here’s Engels describing the eradication of private property as a gradual process in The Principles of Communism:

      Q. Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke?

      No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society.

      In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.

      China’s present path of development facilitates the rapid development of the productive forces. This is why marketization is deployed in secondary and developing industries, not in highly developed or critical industries, as private ownership has nothing to offer. At low levels of development, markets are tremendously effective. Here’s Marx and Engels in Manifesto of the Communist Party:

      The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

      The point Marx and Engels bring up here is that marketization is a rapidly developing force. The bourgeoisie in China cannot help but play a part in this role. However, this is a moribund role, one destined to eliminate its own basis:

      The bourgeoisie keeps more and more doing away with the scattered state of the population, of the means of production, and of property. It has agglomerated population, centralised the means of production, and has concentrated property in a few hands. The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments, and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier, and one customs-tariff.

      This right here is the connection between capitalism and socialism. It’s why capitalism produces the own means to extinguish itself. When capitalists in China participate in this marketized sector, they facilitate the end of their own basis. They stitch together production into a new socialized base, one that the socialist state relentlessly and mercilessly appropriates with respect to the degree that it develops:

      The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as rapidly as possible.

      Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.

      As this process continues, the basis of the state withers away. The basis of the state is class struggle, and when all property has been collectivized into one unified system, it ceases to have a base from which the state emerges. This is the economic case for the withering of the state, elaborated by Engels in Socialism: Utopian and Scientific:

      The state was the official representative of the whole of society, its concentration in a visible body, but it was so only in so far as it was the state of that class which in its time represented the whole of society: in antiquity, the state of the slave-owning citizens, in the Middle Ages of the feudal nobility, in our time, of the bourgeoisie. When ultimately it becomes the real representative of the whole of society, it renders itself superfluous. As soon as there is no social class to be held in subjection any longer, as soon as class domination and the struggle for individual existence based on the anarchy of production existing up to now are eliminated together with the collisions and excesses arising from them, there is nothing more to repress, nothing necessitating a special repressive force, a state. The first act in which the state really comes forward as the representative of the whole of society – the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society – is at the same time its last independent act as a state. The interference of the state power in social relations becomes superfluous in one sphere after another, and then dies away of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things and the direction of the processes of production. The state is not “abolished”, it withers away. It is by this that one must evaluate the phrase “a free people’s state” with respect both to its temporary agitational justification and to its ultimate scientific inadequacy, and it is by this that we must also evaluate the demand of the so-called anarchists that the state should be abolished overnight.

      This is why it is important to have a Marxist understanding, and not simply phrasemonger. China’s socialist path is fully in line with Marxist economics and theory.