Day by day, the advancements in human knowledge has caused us to know so many things. Many religious arguments have been debunked in an awesome manner. Many religions have to soften themselves now, in order to be accommodating to the modern mind. Do you think that in our future, say 2060 or 2100, will we humans have religions as we have now or will we all reject God and other supernatural and pseudoscientific hypothesis and become atheists?
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Sadly, no. And it’s probably gonna have a resurgence soon with all the calamity
the Abrahamic ones or new age type ones? I personally think Christianity and Islam will be the future leading religions (maybe some percentage of Judaism) but rest of religions I think will die out.
Just good ole Jesus times bullshit. In America specifically, I see a rise of the shopping mall and mega churches.
And orthobros
No. Religion is too useful as a means of control.
No. Humans by and large are idiots.
You said what was in my heart
Short answer probably not, but I don’t think the trend of less religion in public life has maximised yet. Some amount of people are just really geared for religious faith and enjoy that certainty too much to accept things as they are.
Certainty is probably the real enemy in a lot of cases.
Not totally, no. People will always seek comfort and there will always be no shortage of people eager to exploit them.
Not unless stupidity also ceases to exist. And by the looks of things, stupidity ain’t going anywhere.
The number of religious people will never be zero. Religion is a method to control population by surrendering their free will. Over the very long term, religions do go extinct, or nearly-so. Look at Zoroastrianism, Norse paganism, Egyptian panopoly, the ancient Sumerian and Mesopotamian city-god cults.
They fall apart and lose adherents when their political backing collapses. In some cases, they get replaced by more wide-ranging systems, like how Chrisitanity’s relatable themes of suffering, the promise of love and deferred salvation displaced the older, more esoteric power-based Norse religion. Norse mythology sort of makes sense in cold, forested, sparesly populated Scandinavia, but as those cultures learned more about the rest of the planet, the stories of trolls, giants, gods and monsters as an excuse for banditry and raiding starts to look silly.
Convesion and Displacement, but generally because The Leader of these societies decided at some point through genuine faith, political convenience, their wife’s faith or just pragmatic cynicism that it was a good idea to move in a different direction. Hence, religion is a matter of political, economic and moral control. That’s never going to go completely out of style, as there’s always going to be bastards who want to use superstition to control people.
Isn’t it strange though that they are the huge proponents of free will and then make people surrender their free will? I do not believe in free will yet I live more freely than those who believe in free will.
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I think that too.
You don’t think money is?
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We should. It’s killing us all. If critical thinking and intellectual honesty catch on (and people recognize that defending the truth is akin to defending life itself), the average person will not accept claims without sufficient evidence.
I think humanity needs to mature or it will go extinct, and not enough people are acknowledging this.
Yeah, I feel sad for humanity and try not to damage the environment as much as I can, but I am not hopeful enough that we will save the environment. Although life is said to end in 5 billion years (when Christopher Hitchens wrote God Is Not Great, he gave that number), I fear that we humans will make it happen earlier.
No. We’re only months away from watering crops with Brawndo.
what is brawndo?
It’s a gatorade-like drink featured in the movie “Idiocracy”. The commercial claims it has electrolytes. The stupid people who run the country use brawndo to water their crops, which all start to die. The stupid people can’t understand that brawndo is the problem. When the one kinda smart guy from the past suggests they use water, the stupid people just parrot the commercial. “But Brawndo has what plants crave… It’s got electrolytes.”
idiocracy is a movie name? damn I thought it is a recent term. Interesting
Yeah. I rewatched a couple of Mike Judge movies recently, they’re still quite relevant and hold up pretty well. I’ll summarize without many spoilers.
Office Space came out in 1999. It’s about an ordinary guy who works in an office doing boring computer work with his weird coworkers. He gets hypnotherapy and is told to relax. He continues going to work, but stops actually working, and fails upward while his coworkers face being let go despite doing their jobs.
If you’ve ever seen the meme where a guy in business attire holding a coffee mug says “yeahhhh… I’m gonna need you to come in Saturday” or similar, that’s from Office Space. It’s the main character’s boss.
Idiocracy came out in 2006. A US army librarian is deemed the most average candidate for a hibernation experiment. He and a prostitute (because the military lacked a viable female candidate) are put in suspended animation for hundreds of years. When they awaken in the future, everyone is significantly stupider than in their own time, making the pair of protagonists the smartest people in the world. But the stupid people rarely listen to reason, even when clearly presented. If you’ve ever heard of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, that’s from Idiocracy.
I think they’re fun movies that are clever and sometimes intentionally stupid, I recommend them.
It’s what plants crave.
It has electrolytes.
I forget that I’m on the old side and many people probably don’t know the movie. For me, at my age, living in the US, it’s like having previously seen alternate reality these days. SnoopSqueak is right, it’s a silly comedy movie that flopped but “called it” as far as the great dumbing-down of America.
Turns out reality is worse than that.Well I am not even from US.
- Humans will never know everything
- Religion isn’t necessarily having answers to those things.
Religion has all the answers.
Whether they are the right answers is irrelevant.
That really depends on the religion.
And when it has no answers, shut up and believe anyway or you don’t have “faith”.
Not until we have secular rituals around death, birth, and union, at least.
union? you mean marriage?
Yes, but I think that name might carry too much baggage, etymologically and culturally. (But, also, it might be necessary to use that name because of the legal baggage it carries.)
yeah
No I think we’d go extinct before that would ever happen. A few countries religion is trending down slightly (China is the atheist outlier along with a few other nations in the link provided) yes, but globally it’s still ~75% theist humans. edit: 10% less than I remembered it being.
https://ourworldindata.org/religion
I hope they do…but it will take eons… we have people still believing nonsense from centuries ago despite evidence.
Every new brian is a blank slate and gets contaminated but the stupidity of it’s peers.
I mean, technically yes when we go extinct, as it’s hard to have religious belief when you’re dead; but until then… no, certainly not. Human brains simply rely on heuristics too much for people to shake pseudoscientific thinking that leads to spirituality (even without organized religion).
I’m hopefully at least the number of people not believing in organized religion goes down, though. That’s the current trend, even if it’s just people answering “none”.
