I think I just had a major mental health episode and I discovered some new things about myself I didn’t expect. I unlocked some painful memories and I feel the need to write some of it down. I think there are going to be at least a few people on here who understand. Sorry, I’m ESL so I have a bit of trouble writing long pieces of text. I hope this is not complete gibberish.
It all started a few days ago with me researching OCD. I knew for a long time that I had some OCD tendencies. I’m obsessed with symmetry, powers of two, geometric shapes. I have hand washing compulsions. I tend to doubt my memory a lot. I get physical “itches” if I don’t obey the compulsions. It’s a kind of “stretchy”, “crawling” feeling right beneath my skin. I had these feelings my whole life. I remember being 7 and finding comfort in symmetries of a cube (8 vertices, 8, my favorite number). I remember 5-year-old me turning 360 degrees and then having to “unwind” the spin of his body by spinning back 360 degrees. There are so many memories like that.
I didn’t think about it too deeply before because, honestly, the symptoms aren’t that bad. I learned to cope and silently comply with these urges (scratching both sides of my face simultaneously is an all-time classic). I’m not in a mental health crisis and I don’t need a DSM-5 worthy diagnosis. Sometimes I develop new compulsions, sometimes I would drop the old ones, but it’s all “fine”. My rituals are small, private and manageable. Yeah, I have to wind my watch exactly 8 times, what of it?
My OCD (or whatever you call it, a subclinical OCD-like condition) just feels like a low-level background noise that makes me feel just a tiny bit uncomfortable in my own body. I’m just always a bit neurotic, a bit on edge, a bit too aware of my senses. I was wondering if my OCD was actually affecting more of my life than I previously realized. Maybe with proper treatment, the discomfort would go away? Is it worth the trouble? Maybe it’s like that useless “background app” that does nothing but drains my battery?
That thought about the “battery drain” led me to another thread – masking. This one was truly devastating.
I was always an “odd” kid. I remember I would spend a lot of time day-dreaming, absorbed in my own thoughts. I would create elaborate fantasies in my head or just focus on random small things that I saw. I would draw cubes in my notebooks instead of listening to my teacher – entire voxel worlds, fractals. My “oddness” might not have been too out the ordinary – a lot of kids have rich imaginations and have trouble focusing. But I still felt a bit out of place. It didn’t prevent me from having friends though. I was shy but I was able to socialize okay. I’m not sure if I exhibited any “masking” behavior but I do remember some moments where I was scolded by my teacher for being too extra and having to dial it down. I think I was okay.
The real problems began when I had to change schools. New social environments are very stressful to me to this very day. But to a small child, it was like my whole world has just collapsed. I was forced into this new unfamiliar environment. All these new names to memorize, faces to remember, social cliques to figure out, in-jokes to learn. But I was trying my best – I was slowly building connections, making friends, adapting the best I could. However, at some point kids started noticing that I was “weird”.
I need to switch to the third person now. It’s too painful if I don’t.
That kid was definitely a bit “weird”, no question. His smile was “too wide”, his laughter was “too loud”, his interests were “too obsessive”. The kid didn’t really consider this bullying – there were kids in this school who were REALLY bullied, and he wasn’t one of them. He knew they were just “roasting” a new kid – a little tribal ritual. But that kid still took this to heart. “How can my smile be weird? How can my laugh be too loud?” he thought. It felt like an attack on the very core of his being – his basic, honest, human expressions of pure joy. He felt deeply hurt by this. He was, however, a resilient and clever kid – he came up with an engineering solution to this “problem”. “Okay, if my smile is weird, let me try to force a different smile. If my laugh is too loud, no big deal – let’s dial the volume down. My interests are strange? Whatever, I’ll just stop sharing”
Obviously, this was a futile effort – you can’t please everyone. But the kid tried his best. He kept adapting, he kept “fixing” every new “weird” thing they would notice. Eventually, this process led to him eroding every bit of public-facing “him” that was left. He adopted this emotionless dead-pan façade – it was still “weird” but at least people would leave him alone. He made himself impenetrable, totally unapproachable. He was trying to hide in plain sight. He held to this façade for dear life – it made him feel at least somewhat safe. Letting it slip would often lead to ridicule. He made himself the platonic ideal of “normal”.
But the façade felt very heavy on him. He would come home feeling exhausted. He would constantly pretend to be sick just to get another day to relax in safety of home. He skipped meals because he was afraid to eat in front of other kids. He would hide in remote corners just to get some rest from all the chaos. He would face abuse from his teachers because they though he was dumb due to not wanting to go in front of the class. And yet, day after day, he persisted. He was a brave fighter. He built himself a thick suit of armor to protect his soft, vulnerable interior. I am so proud of him.
The reason why I had to write this in third person is because it felt extra profound to me yesterday, when all the memories were flooding in. I managed to reframe my experience from “me, a weird neurotic kid” to “him, a scared and lonely child”. It allowed me to finally accept him and forgive him for all those years of self-inflicted torture. He really was doing his best. I wish I could give him a hug.
I only now realize it was probably “masking”. It was a torturous, terrifying experience. My mind was in a constant state of flux. I would come to school, sit in class, and just dissociate, not doing anything, just waiting for time to pass. Sometimes I would stand in the corridor frozen in absolute terror, unable to move a single muscle, constantly anticipation what would be the newest “weird” quirk they’d notice – the mask was already too heavy and I didn’t want amend it one more time. I even internalized the mask. I thought I was just a boring person unworthy of social contact.
I somewhat connected my masking to the city of Omelas. My body was trying to maintaining this perfect ideal of a “normal” person at the expense of that poor abused kid in that dark basement. This one might be a bit of a stretch but fuck it!
A few years after this, I had to live with another group of kids for some time. Again, stress from new environment, struggle to fit in, yada yada. These kids were significantly kinder. I managed to have some fun times, make friends, make good memories. I remember one day we were all sitting on and around a big couch. It was a quiet rainy day; the atmosphere was warm and friendly. We were watching a movie and just shooting the shit. Being teenagers. We were basically a big friend group; we would share everything about each other. This would of course involve some light banter. We started talking about things we noticed about each other – endearing things, quirks. At some point it was my turn. They noticed how “odd” I was. My smile was unusual, I spoke too quietly, my interests were… obsessive. They didn’t mean to offend, they were just telling me I was really cute. But to me it still felt like a personal attack. My smile, my perfectly engineered, completely “normal” smile was unusual??? It made me realize masking was a losing battle. I could perfectly mold myself to the exact expectations of the exact social circle I needed to fit in, but someone out there would still think I’m “weird”. It was devastating to hear this from my friends. At that point, it felt like it was easier to completely withdraw from society. But I think it taught a valuable lesson – give less of shit about what everyone thinks, just a little bit.
Things gradually got better however. I was growing up. I was getting an education in a field I liked. I’ve gotten a job I actually enjoyed. I really liked becoming an adult. My best experiences during childhood were always talking to adults. Adults were different – they weren’t tribal, they wouldn’t immediately jump to judgement, they wouldn’t mock you if they found something about you “weird”. Becoming an adult felt like a very euphoric experience. Unlike kids, adults aren’t as cruel. I was finally free.
The mask is still there but it has now shifted into a “quiet but friendly nerd” persona. Yes, it’s a persona now. I think it suits me well. It sets expectations – people don’t expect a computer guy to be a social savant. They understand that we tend to be quiet. They don’t find it weird when I seem to have a massive amount of knowledge on a specific topic – it is expected from an expert. I think the normalization of “the nerd” in society is such a great thing. I like when people immediately assume I can fix their computer (I can and I will!). I like when some lady asks me how to save word to pdf. I like when someone asks me my opinion on “AI”. It all feels almost “normal”. Almost.
The scars are still there. My smile is still different, I still talk too quietly, I’m still somewhat afraid of sharing my passions. It’s all involuntary, it’s now deeper than psychology.
The one thing I still definitely struggle with the most is social contact. Small talk seems to be a particular enemy of mine. I have some colleagues who just like to come to me and talk about their day. I like these people, I respect them. But that “small talk” thing just feels deeply perplexing to me. Whenever I’m interrupted from work by a colleague, my mind enters into this almost “fight-or-flight” mode. I’m sitting there, smiling, keeping an eye contact, saying “damn that’s crazy”, and yet my mind is almost in a state of panic. This should be a nice relaxing moment for me, but my brain is demanding to end this immediately and get back to work. I can almost feel the radiation from my monitors burning a hole in the back of my head. I feel really bad about it too. This person is being nice and friendly, they are sharing their little slice of life with me. I should be listening to this person and yet my mind is always somewhere else.
This “somewhere else” feeling keeps haunting me. I still often have to pretend to smile, to laugh, to be interested in a conversation. I feel numb. My mind is just “out there”. I’ve been trying to teach myself to enjoy these little moments of socialization. I’m trying to give myself permission to have fun. After all, it was the exact thing “that kid” desperately craved, and now I want to make him proud.
I think I need to address the elephant in the room: am I just autistic? I considered this for a long time. I even briefly self-identified as autistic, but it never sat quite right with me. I relate to so many things with autistic people – hyper sensitivity to external stimuli, intense hyper obsessive episodes, trouble understand the “social game”. I didn’t want to take on this label without fully “deserving” it. After all, I was able to build a functional life. I didn’t want to seem like a “fraud”. There are some real brave troopers out there, and I didn’t want to steal their valor. But I think my “masking” revelation was the final piece of the puzzle. I don’t intend to pursue a proper clinical diagnosis. I don’t want to go through the hell of medical system just to get my official “autism certificate” – maybe that’s very autistic of me.
I researched how autistic community views self-identification and it seems to be a well-accepted practice.
I will now invoke this right.
I will give myself permission to belong.
I am autistic.
Welcome, I too am self-diagnosed. Your text was very relatable.

Thanks for your vulnerability in sharing. It’s good to follow your intuition, and kind to consider the feelings of others even as you struggle.
Making fun of the way someone laughs is, in my opinion, one of the most evil things a person can do. Laughing is pure and honest, like seeing someone’s true inner self, in a moment of trust. To take away someone’s laugh, by making them self-conscious, is like denying them the right to happiness. Sorry to read that someone thought you laugh “too loud” — I bet it’s contagious and fun to be around
Sorry to read that someone thought you laugh “too loud” — I bet it’s contagious and fun to be around
Unfortunately my “real laugh” was supressed violently. It now just sounds like a “sensible giggle”. I might bring it back some day though, if it’s still in there!
Thank you

Very relatable post comrade. I hope someday to have the grace and understanding of my childhood and self that you do. You are not alone in the feelings and troubles you faced.
I wish everything hadn’t hurt so bad for years.
I hope someday to have the grace and understanding of my childhood and self that you do.
Write it down in a diary, it really helps. Write down how you feel and keep asking yourself questions, dive deeper and deeper. I was only able to understand a lot of this stuff when I started to put it down on the screen. It felt like opening the flood gates

However, at some point kids started noticing that I was “weird”.
As a fellow ND person, I definitely know this. You noticed the point when people who had met you noticed your ND quirks and started talking to you in a noticeably slightly dumbed down way, like to a kid. But then if they got to know you better and you grew a bit closer, something would always click and they’d start to ignore all that, just like I ignore it about myself, and treat you like the sane, intelligent person you are.
Yeah, I know what you mean. People just treat you differently. During my childhood it felt like anything I do could be used as a weapon against me. Simple “what’s up” was often and attemp to unmask me, which would invite further ridicule. I think that’s partically where my strong aversion to small talk comes from.
noticed your ND quirks and started talking to you in a noticeably slightly dumbed down way
I think a lot of NT people heavily rely on the “first impression” to undrestand someone. I also had some experinces where people I would first meet notice something “off” - my distant deminour, an “odd” head movement, and then treat me with caution. I kinda understand that - they have a hard time placing me in a cateogry. The world is cruel but I found most (adult) people fundamentally have empathy - they will get to know you and they will enjoy your company.

Also, I couldn’t deduce witch country you come from from your account, but if it’s Russia then it’s worth noting that some cultures are genuinely more ND-hostile by their nature than others. I’m half Czech for example and the society’s bureaucratic, old school mindset (which is common to all post communist countries) with one definitive correct way of doing things (the state sanctioned, Boomer way) definitely makes you stick out a lot more than my other country, the UK, where eccentricity is explicitly encouraged and you are encouraged to find a way of doing things that Works for You. After experiencing both cultures, the subconscious influence they have on your self perception cannot be understated.
Yes, I’m Russian. And yes, there is definitely a lack of awareness of autism. There is a reason why I decided to post this in an English-speaking forum - I don’t yet know where else I could have gone. I tried talking to a few people about autism but none seem to understand what it really is. I even met one person with clinically diagnosed BPD, so I thought I could talk to her about mental health - autism, however, seemed alien to her. I think autism is just treated as a synonym for “stupid” and not much else.
One nice thing about being Russian is we tend to be stoic, sad, philosophical types. We do not share our problems. We enjoy a nice deep phrase and a long quiet moment of contemplation. On the other hand, a lot of socialization still revolves around alcohol. I hate alcohol or any other kind of chemical alterants. When I say “I don’t drink”, people are absolutely shocked - they demand an explanation. Thankfully, drinking seemed to become far less common amongst younger generations, so that’s very nice. I don’t feel much pressure to drink when I hang out with people my age or younger.
Yeah, I went a long time gaslighting myself that surely everyone has my problems since the system had me believe that conditions like ADHD (what I have) is the sort of thing you only have if you’re in a mental asylum. I’m sure Russia will have places full of ND people where you’ll feel like people ‘get’ you; they just won’t be signposted as such (due to the above). Because maybe even the people themselves won’t realize they have those conditions. For example in Czechia I don’t openly label myself as having ADHD, instead I refer to myself by my tendencies (‘I’m quite a fast talker’, ‘’ etc etc; all the other ADHD people know I’m referring to my ADHD). I guess it’s just a question of finding what sorts of environments spontaneously draw ND people
When I say “I don’t drink”, people are absolutely shocked - they demand an explanation.
Man, I completely get what you mean with that social pressure. I don’t really know what to say to it but it sucks. Alcohol sucks as a mental crutch
Yeah, I went a long time gaslighting myself that surely everyone has my problems since the system had me believe that conditions like ADHD (what I have) is the sort of thing you only have if you’re in a mental asylum.
I also spent a lot of time associating OCD and autism with people who cannot leave their house because of their conditions. I though what I was feeling was normal because they didn’t literally put me in a straitjacket
I don’t openly label myself as having ADHD, instead I refer to myself by my tendencies
Yeah that’s a great way of doing it. I think this is another reason why I was alaways hesitant to adopt “autism” label. It is better to explain how I do things, instead of what I “am” - it leaves less room for misunderstanding
Man, I completely get what you mean with that social pressure. I don’t really know what to say to it but it sucks
One funny thing I like to do when they demand explanation is I just say “because it’s Haram”, and then refuse to elaborate. They either appreciate the humour or are left confused
I was alaways hesitant to adopt “autism” label. It is better to explain how I do things, instead of what I “am”
Yeah. That’s why I’m genuinely reluctant to openly label myself even in tolerant cultures like the UK, because I feel like it tends to lead to an ‘us and them’ sort of feeling
One funny thing I like to do when they demand explanation is I just say “because it’s Haram”, and then refuse to elaborate. They either appreciate the humour or are left confused
Hahahaha xD People would love that joke over here in cz
It is untenable the way that people will code shift when they find out someone is autistic. I have had the experience of seeing a receptionist go from professional-but-annoyed to acting as if she were speaking to a lost toddler after accessing my file and seeing I’m autistic. Most of the time it happens gradually, but that experience made it clear just how much some people will modify the way they interact.
OCD can go fuck itself. God I hate those intrusive thought things.
Funny thing is I learned about ERP treatment during my research and that’s basically what it is.
You literally tell OCD to fuck off. And guess what? It fucks right off!
Comrade this is an amazing post. There’s way too much here that I relate to. The amount of times I had to change the way I laugh because it’s “too weird”, the amount of times I changed how I port myself around others because someone makes fun of the way I am, the amount of times I changed the way I talk through text because it is also seen as weird, is just too damn many. It got to the point where I don’t know who I am anymore, I don’t know who is beneath the mask, even when I dared open up a bit and my at the time “friends” accepted it at first, when I became too much or “too cringe” for them to handle the bullying started again, in much more subtle ways, but enough to remind me that I can’t leave that box, that I can’t lower the mask, that I can’t be myself around people. It turned out they were a bunch of complete pieces of shit (wow who would have thought), except one who is genuinely great and also ND.
I feel like so much of my life I have been pretending that it is now extremely hard to stop. I laugh at stuff automatically, doesn’t matter if it is funny or not, just so I appear more friendly and approachable, I let bigotry slide because I’m afraid of the confrontation, and that also made it so I keep bottling all this rage every time it happens that I turn into a ticking time-bomb until I can’t take it anymore and then it gets ugly because then I get aggressive and I’m seen as caring about stuff that “doesn’t matter”, creating issues where it “doesn’t exist” and I end up having to apologize. This just sucks. Having no confidence sucks. Exploding sucks. Trauma sucks. Not knowing how to deal with it all sucks.
Not to say all the OCD stuff too. I also used to have hand washing compulsions. And in my case, my favorite number is 12, so much stuff I did 12 times or a multiple like 24 (because it’s just 2 twelves), be it clicking with a mouse, tapping with my fingers in a specific pattern, counting, etc. This has changed over time, and the feeling you describe is mostly gone, but unfortunately it evolved to a lot of intrusive thought obsessions which are much harder to deal with than the physical stuff for me. If I’m really, really bored then a bit of the more physical stuff like pattern and symmetry recognition can kick in again, but most of the time it is gone, I don’t know if its because of my dissociation or just something that happened by growing up.
Oh and I totally get the feeling of liking being an adult. I absolutely hated being a minor most of the time. Stuff just got way better and easier to handle after I became an adult too.
And honestly seeing the way you managed to accept that you had to mask for survival, gives me hope that I can get to that point too someday.
There’s a book that is always recommended, called Unmasking Autism by Dr. Devon Prince. I still have to finish it, but what I read there was incredible and the most I have felt seen when reading anything ever. I would highly recommend you to take a look, comrade.
I researched how autistic community views self-identification and it seems to be a well-accepted practice.
Yeah, self-diagnosis/self-identification is mostly seem as fine, and I completely agree with it too, it is ultimately harmless and help a ton of people. So many autistic people would not have found out about themselves if not for self-diagnosis. There is however a big sentiment outside the community against this and there is a lot of professionals that keep spreading the bullshit of how there’s “too many autism diagnosis”, when in reality, last time I checked, data shows that we are underdiagnosed. Which is not to say that wrong diagnosis doesn’t happen, it does, but it is nowhere as big as any of them makes it seem to be.
You don’t need to pursue a formal diagnosis, but if you feel you could use the “benefits” (sorry I don’t know what is the proper term to use in english) that your government probably have set in place for autistic people, then it might be worth pursuing.
Also just a heads up if you encounter it online, but A.B.A. “therapy” is bullshit that only brings harm to autistic people, specially autistic kids.
I am autistic.
Congrats on your realization!! Finally accepting it makes a lot of pieces fall into place and gives us comfort in finally knowing more about ourselves.

Thank you so much, I’m glad you could relate
It got to the point where I don’t know who I am anymore, I don’t know who is beneath the mask
I stuggle with this a lot. There is a reason why I framed this post around masking. It just felt like such a violent, traumatic event that it altered my brain permanently. It was like a neutron star polishing the planet with radiation, until nothing was left but a completely smooth surface. I spent so much of my most vital developmental years being in constant state of fear and pain. I don’t even know what’s left of that happy kid that I used to be. I might never find out who I am beneath the mask.
But I hope you will. There has to be an answer out there.
even when I dared open up a bit and my at the time “friends” accepted it at first, when I became too much or “too cringe” for them to handle the bullying started again
I’m sorry to hear that. It’s very painful. I don’t think I can ever trust an NT person enough to fully open up. They can claim to understand but the really don’tAnd in my case, my favorite number is 12, so much stuff I did 12 times or a multiple like 24 (because it’s just 2 twelves)
Hell yeah, that feels like a great number. I can see why you like it.
What you’re describing with OCD getting milder with age is very common. It tends to subside as your brain develops. My OCD was way more visible when I was a kid. That “unwiding” thing I described would simetimes cause anxiety attacks when I frogot my current angle of rotation. My symptoms are also mostly gone, but sometimes it feels easier to just scratch that “itch” rather then waiting 10 seconds for it to subside.
And honestly seeing the way you managed to accept that you had to mask for survival, gives me hope that I can get to that point too someday.
You will get there. Try looking at that girl and see what she was going through. That “third person view” really helped me a lot. Try feeling empathy for her. Be kind to her.
There’s a book that is always recommended, called Unmasking Autism by Dr. Devon Prince.
Oh yeeeees, thank you for reminding me. Now I HAVE to actually read it.
There is however a big sentiment outside the community against this and there is a lot of professionals that keep spreading the bullshit of how there’s “too many autism diagnosis”, when in reality, last time I checked, data shows that we are underdiagnosed.
I fucking hate these people. Gatekeepers for communties they don’t belong to.
You don’t need to pursue a formal diagnosis, but if you feel you could use the “benefits” (sorry I don’t know what is the proper term to use in english) that your government probably have set in place for autistic people, then it might be worth pursuing.
I’m not sure if my government cares about autistic people. Judging by my childhood - it doesn’t. The system failed to give me benefits in the time I actually needed them most - it ignored me and threw me to the wolves. Fuck them. They can keep their pocket change.
Congrats on your realization!! Finally accepting it makes a lot of pieces fall into place and gives us comfort in finally knowing more about ourselves.
Feeling right at home already! Thank you so much

But I hope you will. There has to be an answer out there.
You too friend, masking be damned we deserve to be ourselves.
I don’t think I can ever trust an NT person enough to fully open up.
Yeah hard lesson to learn, I think there’s only one NT person I truly trust and it doesn’t come close to the level of trust I have for my ND friend.
What you’re describing with OCD getting milder with age is very common.
I did not know that, wow. It’s been multiple years since I did online research about OCD. And usually the online places for OCD people like OCD subreddits and such are very depressing places so I kind of just stopped looking for it.
The system failed to give me benefits in the time I actually needed them most - it ignored me and threw me to the wolves. Fuck them. They can keep their pocket change.
I totally get the sentiment, fuck them. Just keep it in mind if you’re ever in a situation of vulnerability cause it could help, also people most likely had to fight for these to even exist. Here in Brasil we do have a few benefits like a minimum wage pay if you’re unemployed, preferencial queues in stores, free bus rides if you’re poor, disability job openings along them having to accommodate to you, the same for schools and universities, and even other stuff like quieter rooms in theaters for example.
And thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate it comrade

Just keep it in mind if you’re ever in a situation of vulnerability cause it could help, also people most likely had to fight for these to even exist. Here in Brasil we do have a few benefits like a minimum wage pay if you’re unemployed, preferencial queues in stores, free bus rides if you’re poor, disability job openings along them having to accommodate to you, the same for schools and universities, and even other stuff like quieter rooms in theaters for example.
Yeah, you’re right. I should at least look into it. Maybe I could get some reparations from these assholes.

I think I’m autistic too and I wonder, how do autistic people do small talk with each other? The times when I’m with autistic people we do the small talk thing but I think that it’s more comfortable because when it’s clear that we both feel a bit awkward about it there’s no need to try to be a natural small talker.
I’m autistic and I don’t know anyone IRL that is also autistic, but I do have one ND friend and the most constant feeling I have had when talking with him is the sheer awkwardness when we try to have small talk, it’s only when we start big talk (or whatever is called) that we clearly feel confortable talking to each other.
To this day I do not understand small talk, I don’t understand what I’m supposed to say or reply nor how long to keep it up, this is a complete mystery for me that almost always makes me feel awkward and panic inside.
I am autistic and am not interested in small talk, talking with ND friends tends toward life updates, life problems, our interests, it’s usually only “big” talk.
I do “small talk” with ND friends where we ask how we’re doing and give a short but honest reply. That doesn’t feel awkward. With ND strangers though I have no idea how I would talk with them without first doing a bit of awkward small talk.
For me it’s usually opportunistic comments of my immediate surroundings.
I’m yet to meet an openly autistic person in real life so I’m also kinda wondering what it would look like. I imagine it as a quiet recognition that we don’t have to torture each other with this week’s weather reports. That we don’t have to fill every silent moment with words. That we could either comfortably stay quiet in each other’s presence or get right to discussing some interesting stuff.
Maybe “small talk” is just such an ingrained and powerful tool of socialisation for NT people that even a lot of autistic people feel the need to mimic it?








