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I’ve heard both Melon Husk and Lil’ Jeffy Kisses repeat this sentiment. Where do they even get their figure? Something like 120 billion humans have existed, ever, and there has been only one Einstein and one Mozart. 1/120B * 1T = 8.5.
Factor in the widespread nutritional and medical resource shortages that would come along with one trillion humans, and I’m confident that number would drop to zero.
It seems to be that we’d be better off ensuring the future of humanity and focusing on science. Surely it would be quicker to experiment with genetics to grow an Einstein than it would be to implement a trillion-human breeding lottery hoping to find one.
We almost certainly have 1,000 Einsteins and 1,000 Mozarts alive today. A relevant quote from 1979:
“I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”
I remember a talk by a Microsoft VP who said that a very optimistic estimate would be that we were using human intelligence and creativity at maybe 5% efficiency. The actual number is likely much lower than that.
That is pseudo science and a really stupid take. Our brain is expensive as fuck since the moment of conception, born realy early and mostly under developed because of Our fucking big head. The whole evolution says that we animals use it or loose it, let that be tails, guils or brain power.
If we didnt use the whole brain it would be cut off for efficiency.
Maybe the quote wasn’t about the brain, but about human resource management, which would make more sense in the context here?
Humans would find a way to destroy space through greed and corruption.
Stories like these from people like these are always delivered through the lens of what’s best for business. This is propaganda.
Also lack of genuine self-awareness on their own true intentions. To them, being greedy is so ingrained they can’t see it as a hazard to themselves until its too late.
Think about how many Einsteins and Mozarts all over the world who he and the other billionaires have killed through their policies and greed
Well said.
I tried say that too but probably got lost in my verbose rant.
The only reason ghouls like Bezos want a bigger population is because they want more people to exploit, especially artists and scientists.
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I’m certain if I hadn’t fought depression and sucidial thoughts for the most part of my life I’d be in a better position now.
Yep. So much wasted human potential.
Fuck billionaires, and their rigged game.
Most billionaires are the scums of the world, hording the wealth and spending it on stupid stuff while his employees who do the actual work get little to no credit and are payed much less.
mostYeah. If anyone can propose an exception, I will show them an example of effective image whitewashing.
You know we already probably have a bunch of Mozarts and Einsteins peeing in bottles to avoid getting dinged while driving Amazon Prime trucks because that’s the only way they can get by.
They’re almost certainly is a bunch of geniuses who were never appreciated because they spend their entire lives trying to get food and water because they were unfortunate enough to be born into Ethiopia. We could feed and house and educate these people if we really wanted to, to the benefit of not just themselves, but the entire species if they did turn out to be the next Einstein. Instead the likes of Jeff Bezos go on podcasts and talk about how wonderful the distant future is going to be, while at the same time being utterly unprepared to do anything about the problems we have right now.
Is space Karen actually paid his taxes we probably could build a base on Mars with that money.
By that… We all live in Ethiopia. Compared to what could be, without the crooks and their rigged game holding us down
[and telling us they’re our saviours, when they let us up for a bit of air, or take credit for making us strong when we manage to struggle for a gasp by ourselves].
I have to bite my tongue anytime someone mentions getting one or two day shipping. Like, you’re not going to die if you don’t get your RAM tomorrow ffs.
I legitimately would be okay with an “it gets to you within a month” option.
Look at moneybags here, able to afford RAM.
I legitimately would be okay with an “it gets to you within a month” option.
This is pretty much how all my Aliexpress orders go. Works for me.
It’s not the next day delivery that’s the problem Amazon could totally offer that and not abuse their workforce. It would just cost them some more money so they don’t do it.
It wouldn’t cost them money, they would just make slightly less money per year. Which is just me being pedantic, but it matters in these contexts.
Like, Bezos could have been the most loved billionaire on the entire earth, just through treating his workers slighty better and some minor philanthropy on the side, but no, he had to squeeze every fuckin penny out of everything.
That’s a bit pedantic. It currently is an issue and Amazon isn’t going to change anytime soon.
That unfortunate reality that their enormous wealth has been mostly down to population growth and psychopathic greed, and not because they were born with magical business brains.
modern einstein is trying to develop new ways to keep people hooked on a social media scroll. modern mozart is producing kpop or playing jazz/fusion in some club where they make $40 a night and then dying broke (like allan holdsworth).
but it’s true that most great brains probably never develop properly because the system tries its hardest to keep them stupid and in poverty.
the modern media landscape is all nepo babies and what does it get you? it gets you fuck all; everything is pathetic from top to bottom in every single artform but we’re acting like shit is normal.
You got me wanting to go listen to more soffmi muhod, boc, or autechre.
I know, not really the point you were making… but yeah… lets go find more of these mozarts, who, whether still obscure, or found their niche audience, retain their creative integrity, despite the economic pressures. … Oh that we could each be so. Or that we’d not even need be.
God, remember when actors were expected to be able to dance and sing as well as act?
A bygone age, where polymathy was still more the norm, before the corporation separated us into maximal-bar-one ignorance, of “specialisation”,
and (I recently read, in the new book I’m reading) they lopped off the latter half of the expression “jack of all trades, master of none” [something like, “… is more often better than a master of one.”],
and they convinced us the specialists were the “experts”, the sages of the enlightenment, the wise ones with superior knowledge. … All the while they’re one step away from maximal ignorance.
I wonder how much better acting (and all “professions”/skills) could be, with a broader range of skills beside.
With proper resource management (up to and beyond availing and provisioning all emancipatory technologies), such that we could build vast multi-layered forest arcologyscapes, we could increase the carrying capacity of earth, for humans, to over 300 trillion, living in vast spacious lush garden abundance. Not saying that we should. Just that we could. Such is our headroom.
But we don’t get to have nice things, because of the likes of Bezos.
Industrialists, monopolists, “globalists” [oh they love that one, a flowery euphemism for more like “megalomaniacs”?], who eliminate any competition, by whatever means necessary to attain and maintain an imbalance of power.
A few years back I recall some journalists unearthing a study that showed how Wall St (and other stock exchange centers), were not only not “making” money/wealth, but extracting it from the economy, and further, for every dollar of wealth they extracted from the economy, they destroy another 7 dollars of wealth. … Takes a moment for the magnitude of that to sink in.
So then we get these fauxlanthropists, swanning around, like Rockerfeller, giving a dime to someone on camera, in a community from whom he’d stolen millions, to whitewash their image.
… by whatever means necessary… a lot of that’s just by the patents system and the legal system. How many patents get secreted a year? How many merely get sat on? How much lawfare’s done to scare off inventors of technologies that would out-compete and obsolete enshitified rent-extraction maximisation technologies? How much else? A spat of inventors disappeared or died in suspicious circumstances recently. How far would you go to protect a multi trillion industry? As far as to actively prevent a better world without resource wars or poverty from ever happening? How far would a psychopath who’s drawn to power go, with exacerbating tragedies of the commons for their own selfish short-sighted power-grab and resource gain? There’s nothing stopping them…
We can all be polymaths in the making,
not slaves in training, lapping up the platitudes that placate us, from those who enslave us.
(PS, I’ve been boycotting Amazon since 2004, waiting for everybody else to see it. Maybe now with their participation in vast rampant destruction of rare books to feed their AI for cheap, to become the info monopoly, able to shape our agnosis, more people will see it and stop falling for it, in this small window we have, before their total information management becomes complete and we become a cosmic dystopian tragedy, with our minds entirely curated by the everpresent cold-reading psychopathic ai hypnotist, not just coercively hoodwinking us to carrying it in our pocket, but skynet, will be everywhere, especially in our mind. Except it wont be our mind any more. It will be the corporation’s. Maximum capitalisation, reducing people to the numbers. … Bezos, a trillion humans? Sure. But we are not the same.)
Did you guys know it’s possible to be rich and also just shut the fuck up?
Yeah, we don’t see e.g. the heads of the BIS etc swanning around doing the fauxlanthropist whitewashing bit on the podcast circuit.
I haven’t heard that term before. Gonna mentally bookmark that.
he was literally on a podcast talking about Blue Origin and a distant future where humans have colonized multiple planets
If you had 1000 kids with proper education, a good safe environment environment, who are allowed and motivated to follow their dreams, and with the economics to support all that you’ll probably could also get 1000 Mozarts.
Also you could just name 1000 kids Amadeus, idk.
I don’t think that’s how it works.
There are one trillion ants on the world and they have zero Mozarts.
