Was reading about Wong Fei Hung today and his style of kung fu he was famous for. But he was also a physician doing TCM. Most of my knowledge of TCM is like acupuncture, moxibustion, and herbs and the like.

Does the CPC police this, not letting people get away with snake oil salesmen who say they can cure cancer with herbs. Or is it encouraged alongside western medicine?

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    You are literally verbatim quoting the “holistic medicine”/“functional medicine”/“natural medicine” line, and it isn’t racist to point that out.

    Like you are literally repeating the fucking sales pitch for health grifters.

    Grow up.

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      Your hyped-up aggressive insults of everyone that disagrees with you and your inability to recognize that people are explaining a different worldview than yours and that isn’t inherently evil or ignorant or deserving of scorn is what’s racist.

      You’re refusing to actually read the content of the messages you’re replying to and making up a person to argue with in your own head.

      It is a fucking fact from my lived experience that doctors in the West treat one thing. You go to an office and you are allowed to bring up one problem. Bodies don’t fucking work like that. How can you know which things are connected? How could the doctor actually diagnose what’s wrong and provide a real, lasting treatment if they are only getting disconnected, disjointed snapshots of issues you face. If you tell a doctor you have a weird fucking pain in your shoulder but you can’t also tell them about the sores on your shins because that’s two things then no fucking wonder it takes ten years to get a fucking MS diagnosis.

      Holistic is not a dirty word, whatever chuddy ass, chauvinistic, superiority-driven complex you have makes you declare that with utmost confidence that everyone who disagrees is inferior to your clearly brilliant intellect. Learn to engage with what people actually are saying, and learn to come into conversations respectfully even when you disagree, or fucking leave me alone forever, because your arrogance disgusts me.

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        Trying to tone police at this point when you have thrown repeated childish insults my way isn’t useful, and I’m not gonna respect t. Fuck off and grow up.

        You’re refusing to actually read the content of the messages you’re replying to and making up a person to argue with in your own head.

        I said you were quoting the sales pitch of “holistics medicine” and general medical quackery, citing the instance of you doing so. That is a thing that happened, we can both see it. I am not making anything up, I called out directly the thing you did citing where you did it. In response to which you called me a racist fuckwit.

        This is hypocrisy of course, but it’s also just deeply embarassing. Especially when you then go on to make a continued direct screed that is also just repeating the “holistic medicine” sales pitch.

        Holistic is not a dirty word,

        Yes it is. It’s a scam. People die or have their money taken from them. At best its placebo, at worst people die. Healthcare scams are wrong.

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          “tone police” go fuck off, you came in this thread insulting everyone around.

          you’re out here making up arguments as if I said every treatment under the sun works, when what I said is they are being studied and that they should be studied more. learn to read. And the word holistic itself is not a dirty word just because some people use it while they do scams, that’s patently ridiculous. Holistic is a process of looking at entire systems as a whole. Dialectics is a holistic approach to understanding things too. Please familiarize yourself with what you’re even angry at.

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            Okay no you don’t actually get to do the whole "educate yourself’ routine when you are wrong about the basic definition of words.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_medicine#Other_terms

            Holistic medicine is another rebranding of alternative medicine. In this case, the words balance and holism are often used alongside complementary or integrative, claiming to take into fuller account the “whole” person, in contrast to the supposed reductionism of medicine

            You especially don’t get to to do the whole “You don’t even know what you’re mad at” line when you are either lying in support of quackery or mistaken about the very meaning of words.

            You also don’t get to try to claim dialectics for your bullshit.

            Go back. Do better.