I think I’ve asked this before a long time ago.

One of my paranoid tinfoil hat theories is that I think cringe culture was pushed by algorithms and has now has become a convenient tool for the right to groom people into policing ‘otherness’ more harshly. I think it’s because it has that particular right-wing playbook stank to it and because I can smell that style of using shame to manipulate that right-wingers love from a mile away. Hell, this site came from a part of the left that was originally a reaction to that, using bullying but instead using it to punch back at the punchers, so to speak (although we’ve changed a little and good, it’s not needed anymore because everyone bullies chuds now).

Cringe culture was big around 2016ish, while it mostly targeted blue hair liberals it often extended to making fun of whatever marginalized group you can think of.

It was always there, of course, but not enough to actually be taken seriously unless you had high-school bully brain. Anyone that wasn’t a chud or too tech illiterate to curate their algorithm tended to lose interest. Fast forward to the 20s’ and now instead of targeting specific marginalized groups or political stuff, there is a more widespread sort of bullying towards any sort of ‘otherness’. Strong emotions, being passionate, being too quirky, looking out of place, being too young, being too old. Being too much of well, anything. Let’s just say it’s not a fun time to be neurodiverengent in particular.

So we know from those files that Gamergate (and I think some Chan spaces?) were involved with promoting right-wing idiology. Well, sure is interesting that after people started posting about the Israel genocide on tiktok, the US freaked out and took control. And now we see a massive resurgence of cringe culture, again. Alongside with other right-wing garbage (think manosphere and so on)

Of course, it’s always been there and is likely just a totally organic consequence of people growing up with social media and the digital panopticon. But notice how everything that is cringe fits neatly into what the right think the left is? I wouldn’t be surprised if we learn in a decade or so that all of this was at least taken advantage of by the right as a form of social policing, a way to undo all that pesky self acceptance and understanding the lgbtq community and other marginalised groups worked so hard to normalise. It’s a way to punish outgroups while getting under the libs “safe to make fun of” radar (and many leftists too, you are not immune!) Seems like a good way for the right to bring back that repressive order they love so much and make everyone afraid to step out of their assigned role again.

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    Trevor Moore was thrown off that balcony by the CIA.

    Kirk got merked by the CIA.

    JFK got merked by the CIA, Poppy and Johnson.

    The Doors was a psy-op by the CIA to make us enjoy the ramblings of an annoying drunkard.

    COVID was a US bioweapon.

    The Vegas shooting was an op or something. Very weird.

    The protests in Iran were coopted by the CIA.

    Pizzagate sort of.

    The elite eats babies.

    9/11.

    Euromaidan was kicked off by the CIA.

    The wave of serial killers that plagued the US in the '70s was either a side-effect from a series of CIA ops like MK-ULTRA or an explicit op to make Americans more fearful, distrustful of each other and more likely to support conservative “tough on crime” politicians.

    LSD and large part of the new age hippie movement was CIA.

    Large parts of “anti-conspiracy-thought” is due to a prevailing cultural narrative created by the CIA. A lot of explanations to conspiracies are made so you can feel super clever about “figuring it out” without ever looking any deeper into the thing itself. For example: JFK was actually shot on accident by a secret service agent. Teehee so clever, youre not a rube at all!
    This is created through a multi-prong approach.

    • Create wacky conspiracies like Flat Earth and Chemtrails so as to be able to lump all into one ridiculous group.
    • Foster deranged racist online forums, so conspiracies become a field exclusively held by Nazis, thus making it more taboo (this has the extra effect of making the right wing more legitimate when conspiracies must be admitted by the popular culture).
    • Spread out easy “debunks” that dont actually deal with the case material. (Pizzagate cannot be real because the pizza Place doesnt even have a basement. No need to look anymore into elite child trafficking rings.)
    • Create explanations like the JFK one for those that feel the need to know more than the average person. These explanations need to be funny stories that allow one to dismiss further introspection, thus creating further separation between “conspiracy theorists” and “real people”.

    I’ll write more as i think of them.

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    What a fun thread! I have quite a few, some of them are quite local. In general I think conspiracies thrive in the lower levels where small groups of people are always having disproportionate power. Millions of little oligarchies. But on the internet, we can only discuss those which are globally relevant.

    Here is a global one: Vaccine development and distribution are intentionally slowed down and even blocked.

    This is in direct opposition to the idea that antivaxers spread: “there are so many new vaccines”. In fact there were several decades of almost zero new vaccines coming to market. Most vaccines you have had in your life are credited to one scientist (Maurice Hilleman). What are the odds that one person (or team) could make the majority of discoveries in any field? It is just not scientifically plausible.

    Once vaccines had improved life for the elite, so that wealthy people’s babies don’t die of rubella and smallpox anymore, they put their foot on the breaks. Vaccines really are the most important technology (maybe) second to writing. They are tightly controlled by the elite nations to prevent the distribution of vaccines, and even the development of vaccines for conditions that only affect the colonized nations. We should have a malaria vaccine by now!!

    Polio was on track for elimination about a decade ago, and we almost got there. It would have been the third disease ever eradicated by humans, after smallpox 1980 and rinderpest 2011 (look that up if you never heard of it). But then the CIA had to go stir up anti vax sentiment in 1 of the 2 remaining reservoirs of polio (in pakistan) in their quest to help obama get the osama bin laden corpse trophy. Seriously if not for that polio would be gooooone today. The CIA is very sorry about the whole thing. Which in itself suggests another level of op.

    After polio, measles was supposed to follow close behind. By 2026 we should be running out of fingers to count the eradicated diseases.

    If I ever wrote a book, it would be about this. There’s way more.

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    The democrats truly have no goal in winning ever again but need to keep up the act because of liberals. They love what the Republicans are doing and are just upset they are not dignified and are not doing it well.

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    The military-government-tech nexus puts its finger on the scales of the media and feed algorithms to inflate the attention given to reptilian/alien/(insert minority here) conspiracies, to make accusations of collusion look like crackpots, while also drowning out the voices talking about structural class interests by offering something more sensational.

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      Honestly I think the modern version of this is amplifying things like gamergate and anti-woke, dei, bluemaga stuff

      I think one thing everyone forgets is that the right adapts it propaganda strategies. We learn to spot their stuff, but it gives us a false sence of security so when they change up the strategy we don’t spot the new one right away.

      I think the key is keeping in mind the overall ideals and beliefs of the right. That way you can spot them when they try to weasle themselves into a new culture. Control, shame, othering ‘useless eaters’, traditional roles. Once you learn that you can see it pop up even in leftist circles, not necessarily because those leftists are right-wing, but because these values have flooded our culture since the birth of imperialism. It’s hard to shake them, especially if you’re desperate to be accepted by this warped culture we find ourselves in.

      I probably sound like a crackpot, but when you know what these people have done in the past with MKUltra and the Epstein stuff, it makes you a crackpot

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    1. 9/11 was either a US/Israeli op or they let it happen on purpose
    2. COVID19 originated in the US
    3. The Epstein stuff is just one of many billionaire-run human trafficking/blackmail networks
    4. The Epstein clique were dabbling in cannibalism
    5. Dead Internet is partially true and is primarily used to sway young people towards eco-fascism and right wing ideology
  • Social media sites intentionally promote grooming to provoke more censorship laws and allow more monitoring and more data to sell.

    For example discord:

    1. Permit CSAM servers.
    2. Wait for a big controversy
    3. Laws become more strict, requiring photo ID to use certain sites.
    4. “Sowwy we need a pictue of you full ID to allow you to talk to your fwends”
    5. Sell that shit to ever single intelligence agency.
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    Hollywood deliberately shows molotov cocktails being made incorrectly. Anyone who shoves a rag in the neck of the bottle is gonna shower themselves in burning fuel when they try to throw it. Seal the bottle with a cork or screw cap and tie the rag around the neck.

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      If you ever saw the show Hamilton’s Pharmacopedia? It is a vice documentary series about drugs. Despite what you might be thinking, it is really good. The host, Hamilton Morris, is a chemist as well as a journo. Interested in the chemistry and production of drugs, including the illicit cooking.

      So anyway, in the show, he is wanting to broadcast the production methods to create the different drugs, as well as explain the underlying chemistry. They had a lot of headaches during production because the legal team at Vice wouldn’t allow them to actually provide instructions on how to make drugs, or anything close to it. They would want him to leave out or intentionally misrepresent some key aspects. Out of integrity, he did not want to provide wrong scientific information and outright refused. So it took a lot of negotiating to find a way that satisfied everybody.

      You can find interviews/talks./writing where he talks about all aspects of this conflict. Basically he was under extreme pressure to do exactly what you say, and his view is that most people who are not extreme sticklers would probably just acquiesce and present the misleading information.

      He says that chemistry is intentionally made to be boring and shitty in school because there are 2 things you can really easily learn from basic chemistry: manufacture of bombs and drugs. So teenagers can’t really be taught it in an engaging way because its too much power to give them.

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      Seriously. So much tidier to transport too. Also, there’s probably lots of serviceable recipes for the mixture, but Styrofoam and gasoline make a nice flammable jelly. Packing peanuts seem like a good source.

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    The serial killer wave of the 70s and 80s was fallout from an MK-ultra-like scheme that was experimenting on unattached young men. My brain says that this is not true, but my heart says it is exactly what happened.

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      my theory is that there really wasn’t a serial killer wave, there were really only like 5-10 legit serial killers anyway, and the FBI was perpetuating the idea of serial killers to regain public credibility after the church committee and COINTELPRO

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      The Unibomber was a subject in one arm of MK-ULTRA. While at Harvard he was “debating” with another student who was actually a young prosecutor from Boston. His job was to disagree and completely invalidate Teddy and his whole logic structure.

      Add some female rejection after college and BOOM Unibomber.

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        Idk if I remember correctly or not but I had heard a worse version of kazynsky’s MKULTRA experience. The professor running the experiment was highly regarded and someone who kazynsky looked up to. They had him spend hours writing long essays about what motivated him and what he believed in and then they had a panel that tore apart everything and belittle him over it. They also recorded him talking about his beliefs and played it back and mocked/deconstructed it to humiliate him and break him

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          You’re definitely filling in parts of the story I missed on…it’s been a few years since I read about it…The individual breaking him on behalf of the professor was the Boston Prosecutor posing as a student.

          I think you are the hero in this retelling…wonder if there’s any unrealized others…

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            I’ll shout at you until you’re healed…the emotional trauma is healing (if you’re a fucking bastard!)

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      Certainly would explain why so many sitcoms are pretty problematic with the themes and story if you start to analyze them.

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        My theory on “Friends” is that it was designed to push the consistently toxic-masculine behaviour by the male characters, especially that vile prick Ross, as being “normal” and “funny” in the minds of girls and young women.

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    FBI and other state apparatus lets some public massacres and school shootings to occur due to combination of the “need” for unlimited budget and as part of strategy of tension-esque tactics

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      I thought that about the borders before the full on dumbass Nazi bullshit…

      You’d see some report, illegal border crossing is (some specific metric). Who exactly is in charge of counting? Border Patrol‽ The same organization who’s budget benefits when there’s a crisis…