But… they’re Sikhs. They are good people. So it’s a no-no for them to have a blade, but totally ok for right wing gravy seal cosplayers to brandish guns everywhere they go?
This is about the UK. No second amendment there. Gravy seals don’t brandish guns there.
As an ignorant American, is it required that the kirpan be able to be drawn?
Could a compromise be reached by soldering the thing in it’s sheath?
The Kirpan needs to be attached and holstered in a certain way. Also it is not only a symbol, but has purpose so it doesn’t really work like that.
Sounds like no, from the other poster, but also, reading the Wikipage, it sounds like they already compromised some because modern ones un the UK are “Around 12 inches” but the traditional ones are “around 30 inches”.
Dagger vs full on sword.
It’s a one off attack isn’t it? Seems excessive to even suggest such a thing if it’s not an actual ongoing or existing problem.
It wasn’t even a kirpan but that was the defense a murderer tried (and failed) to use and so the rightwing racists amplified it times a million pointing and yelling “SEE SEE SEE” and because truth means nothing and controversy means clicks and attention we all need to give their bullshit empty claims serious weight and consideration and rebuttal in some pointless theatre of one-way civility and illusory balance instead of just smacking them upside the head for being racist twats.
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Goals for 2027:
- Establish a religion
- Make carrying an AK47 a crucial part of our faith
- ???
- Profit.
Pretty sure that religion exists and is called MAGA and it’s Lord and savior is Donaldr Trump. Might be an AR15 though.
It certainly brings profit for the people who started it
So, fascists
Ideologists in general
Idk if it’s racism or just obsessive Christian trauma, but this militant atheist thing lemmy has going on is incredibly cringe
What about this post or comment section is “militantly atheist”?
You: People who have experienced trauma are cringe for being traumatized.
Reminds me of this time in english class where we had to role play a situation in which we were an event organiser and the person in charge of security was refusing to let a Sikh artist in because of their ceremonial dagger. Every students thought that the assignment was to convinced the artist to give up their knife our break the contract but the teacher was like “no, it’s not how it works in the UK, it’s supposed to be a dilemma”.
Sure, an entire religion with extremely rare incidents like this need a knee jerk response. Not at all intended to continue the stupid right-wing media frenzy…
I feel like there is a slight increase of anti-Sikh propaganda being pushed too. I imagine some of these right wing Christo fadcist extremists see them as a threat
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They seem to do a lot of community good, without judgement, something most Christians only claim to do
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They feel vaguely popular, party because of the above, with some lefty/progressive types
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The “Kind of look like Muslims” which of course, for right wing assholes are ALL terrorists.
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Sooo their faith encourages carrying a blade just in case they need to stab someone, gotcha. Sure as fuck they aren’t carrying a blade to make sandwiches.
The knife the attacker used wasn’t even a kirpan, nor was he carrying the knife for religious reasons. Which is to say that he was carrying a knife that was illegal to carry under UK law (because it wouldn’t have been eligible for the religious exemption). A law that forbade Sikhs from carrying a kirpan would not have prevented this murder, because the knife in question was already illegal to carry.
We shouldn’t be thinking of this under an “us vs them” framing that would place half a million Sikhs in the same category as this despicable murder, because this murder has absolutely nothing to do with the fact the man was Sikh. The only “us vs them” distinction that I’m comfortable in making us “murderers vs not-murderers” — and that would put me squarely on the same side as the vast vast majority of British Sikhs — who are not murderers.
No their faith requires them to wear a ceremonial dagger.
No, it’s a tool to protect the innocent in distress, not cerimonial. Some Sikh will use a small symbolic pendant but that is not what the religion calls for, it must be long enough to be useful in a fight.
For making sandwiches?
No it actually kinda originated in a time where they got Islam forced upon them, but it carried on as a symbol and tool of standing up for the weaker and justice.
I keep a non-denominational knife in my hat and there’s nothing the government can do
Sikh’s can carry a blade… sike!
