• DisabledAceSocialist@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    I really hope it happens. I want to be vegan for animal welfare reasons but I have so many food intolerances and allergies, it’s impossible and I feel really guilty about it. Lab grown meat would solve the problem for me, and hopefully end factory farming eventually.

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      Yeah, a big con of high protein vegetarian options is it often comes with common allergens. Nuts, Gluten, soy. Not everyone is built for it.

      Lab grown meat will also solve a lot of environmental and time constraints if achieved on correct sustainable scale.

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    I think it could be a thing in the future and I would eat it given there wasn’t some insanely complex and expensive process that made it pretty much unviable, and I do believe that in time it will happen. People that say it’ll never work really underestimate human ingenuity and technology. Only 30-40 years ago the smart phone you hold on your hand would have been considered impossible. We now cure diseases that people used to just have to live with forever. We grow medicine using bacteria, using them to grow a steak doesn’t seem so far fetched.

    And the there’s the argument of “why. We should all just eat plants.” The thing is, why not? Why not research the technology? Who knows what it could lead to. How many major human advancements came from an accident or unintended result from trying to research something completely unrelated? The answer is a lot. A lot of them. So go ahead, grow a steak or whatever. Let me throw a bunch of grass into a vat and out pops a bunch of “ground beef.” Do the science and learn shit. Personally, I’m hoping for more of a star trek type of food replicator. Make a super advanced 3d printer that just zaps atoms into the right formula to make me an omelet.

    Like, I’m not gonna gatekeep the future. It’s the future. Do the science and make cool shit. Make USEFUL shit. At least it could potentially feed people. Maybe it becomes the first step in a more advanced food replication technology. Maybe we figure out how to grow the perfect nutritionally balanced feed stock that then can be used to replicate any other food you could want. Who knows? So go for it. I mean, it’s not like it’s hurting anyone.

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      4 days ago

      Who knows? So go for it. I mean, it’s not like it’s hurting anyone.

      lab grown meet requires biopsies. lab grown meat also often goes through taste testing that requires actual meat.

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        Using current, underdeveloped and rudimentary processes. There is absolutely no reason the technology cannot improve to a level where taking biopsies from living doners is no longer necessary.

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      5 days ago

      To continue along this line, the breeding of crop varieties to include more protein still has a lot of potential, and the end result (beans, grains, etc) is far less risky than lab grown meat.

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      I’m going to be entirely honest with you, but having tried tofu prepared numerous different ways in radically different recipes, tofu is by far one of the most disgusting things I’ve personally forced myself to try and like. The taste, the texture, the mouthfeel, and aftertaste are all vile.

      I don’t know, as this is probably neurodivergence speaking, but tofu is just not good.

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    It has to be more efficient than the current method to replace it. If lab grown meat requires more resources to produce the same amount of meat, it will never work out regardless of the moral reasons.

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    From what I have read the current stuff is basically artificially flavored jello with some vat grown animal cells thrown in for branding purposes.

    I think its more feasible to develop some new meat like substance from yeast and reprogrammed bacteria than to make real chunks of meat from existing animal cells.

    The composition of muscle is too complicated to build in a lab. Maybe some day they might make some non sentient biological machine that grows meat that can be harvested but I imagine that level of genetic engineering is many decades from where we are.

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      That’s because abattoirs reek and are placed in low income or rural areas. Of course crime would be higher there.

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    I think precision fermentation is, at least in the near term, more scalable and energy efficient than lab meat. Basically, instead of recreating entire animal cells, microbes are engineered to create animal proteins directly, which can then be used in dairy and egg products without needing animal cells. Lab-cultured meat might take longer to catch on due to cost and consumer perception.

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      We spend 800 to 1200 times the money subsiding the meat industry ($38 billion dollars) we spend on research grants on alternative meat. Then oligarchs in the slaughter industry use a fraction of the profits generated by it to lobby the state legislature and the congress to ban the cultured meat from the market.

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      Basically, instead of recreating entire animal cells, microbes are engineered to create animal proteins directly, which can then be used in dairy and egg products without needing animal cells.

      Thats almost literally what fungi already do.

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    I haven’t eaten meat in 58 years. Ethical dilemma aside, what would be the point at this stage in my life. It would feel like a stumble and fall at the end of a marathon.

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      For meat consumers. We can’t expect other cultures to immediately abandon their dietary practices.

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        In my teens, I would work at my oldest brother’s in-law’s small farm during school holidays. There was a cow that befriended me and would walk over to the fence for head “scritches” when it saw me. One evening, after work, we were having dinner and my brother said, “By the way, you’re eating your friend.” Quit eating “meat” at 14, expanded to other critters, then questioned why no one feels sorry for a fish; quit eating all flesh by the time I was 16; not exactly sure when that evolved to include all the other stuff like dairy and eggs. Eating your friend can change your life.

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          Im sorry you have to go through that, it sounds traumatizing. And i hope you never have to go through something like that again Comrade.

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            According to the USDA, in those 58 years, I’ve saved 1,674 chickens, 41 turkeys, 5 ducks, 6 cows, and 24 pigs from murder, so at least her sacrifice was not for naught. The study did not include fish showing, as I stated, no one cares about a fish.

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    5 days ago

    As an environmentalist, eating meat is probably the most immoral thing I do. I eagerly look forward to the day where we don’t have to kill animals to eat meat.

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    First of all, what technology is meant by “Lab-cultured meat”? Because if it’s something like taking a few cells from a few dead animals, which could even be extinct animals like mammoths or naturally extinct animals, and multiplying them in lab, without neurons/nerves and such, to feed all of humanity at reasonable efficiency, I just don’t see what else is there to say other than “Great! Let’s do it quick!”