Some ceasefire they have going.
Israel’s approach to every ceasefire is “you cease and we fire”
Basically never negotiate with America or Israel; when you break the negotiations because you know it’s only a matter of time until the US government or Israel breaks it, you’re the bad guy, when we break negotiations it’s normal or even cunning.
Pre-emptive defensive bombing of elementary schools and hospitals
The answer the Israeli government would rarely admit (I was going to say never, but then I remember Israel’s president Herzog saying there are no civilians in Gaza), but IOF members have said repeatedly, is that they see those children as future terrorists.
Now the ordinary liberal might be inclined to believe the IOF would kill children but feel guilty about it, doing it as something they see as a necessity, but in reality you have literal tweets from Israelis looking at crying children and swearing at them and promising to kill them; they don’t see a child in Palestinian children (or even any non-Jewish Middle Eastern children for that matter), they see them as adults; Fox news referring to black children as young men is something they do intentionally to get people used to the idea of seeing black children as adults, Israelis just naturally see non-Jewish Middle Eastern children as adults.
In 1864 when ordering the Sand Creek Massacre, US Army Colonel Chivington said, “nits make lice” to justify killing children.
And the painful reason I already knew about this was because Gary Gygax used it to explain why killing goblin babies was okay (also calling Chivington’s words an ‘observation’, rather than personal views, as though Chivington was explaining a fact he’d learned)
Yet another reason to never touch DND with a ten foot pole and instead play any of the hundreds of better RPGs
Looking this up right now and wow he said that in 2005.
I know about Chivington as the villain of Silas Soule’s story. Soule had fought alongside John Brown in Kansas, then joined the Union Army to fight against the Confederates. He was a Captain under Chivington at Sand Creek and refused the order, then reported the massacre, for which he was shot dead in the street.
which really makes you wonder why people keep agreeing to them
I think it’s in the vain hope that the world will speak up for them when (not if) Israel attacks them; unfortunately the countries with the greatest power to do something about it are just a basket of frothing racists who see the lives of the people in the global South only marginally more valuable than they did fifty years ago.
relying on ‘the world’ is a false hope, even the most sympathetic and reasonable nations like China won’t lift a finger to do anything. Even if the entire UN was up in arms and voted against some action of Israel/USA they would simply veto it or ignore it. There is no diplomatic solution. The only economic solution is complete sanctions and embargo of US/Israel, which China refuses to do and nobody else is big enough to spearhead - so economic solutions are off the table. That leaves only military solutions, and nobody will help much with those either except in clandestine ways.
Thus, signing up for a ceasefire blocks off your side from military victory (thus any victory) while doing nothing to protect your people since Israel will ignore any ceasefire and keep attacking as much as they feel like. At this point, I’m starting to see any ceasefire with Israel as a tacit admission of surrender since the sides signing it surely know it won’t be respected but have no other choice. Otherwise, why would they endure the bombings silently without reprisal?
Yet when any of this is pointed out in the newsmega you are labeled an idealist doooooomer who needs to be purged from the clique. Or at least that was the case a few weeks ago when I stopped trying to sift the good analysis (of which there was still plenty) from the non-materialist masturbatory “trust the plan, never question it” spam every other post. I’m assuming there hasn’t been any improvement since then?
it’s a mixed bag. Mostly it’s touchy around current defeats, as people start blame-gaming and doing recriminations and infighting when stuff goes badly for our side, or just completely staying in denial of it. I think it’s important to read the official positions and statements from resistance factions to get their side of the story and public intent, however they have been known to exaggerate, lie and mislead as well. Iran lied about not negotiating with Trump during the recent war, and they lied about not negotiating while Lebanon was being attacked. They agreed to a ceasefire while Lebanon is still being sieged when they explicitly said they would not do that, in fact they said they would not even begin talks while hot attacks on Lebanon were ongoing yet they not only did so, but agreed to a ceasefire with the strait still closed as some sort of compromise. I wish people could be honest about things like this instead of gaslighting us and pretending the resistance factions never made the statements that users here were gleefully parading around just days before the aboutface. Iran loves saying things about destroying the entity, freeing Palestine, etc and make huge statements to rile up their base and then they ceasefire out and try to sign sanction relief normalization deals with the west.
ceasefire?? they thought it was si, fire
Is this shit just going to continue until the end of time? Every day it seems that no matter what happens to them, Israel might actually outlive the heat death of the universe or something. If they’re god’s chosen shitheads, then once again, god needs to be killed and usurped in order set things right.
Israel has definitely adopted a kill or be killed mentality, so it might wage war until Arabs do not pose any perceived threat whatsoever (plus the fears of the “great replacement”) by either submission under the boot or death.
I’ve always wanted to go to Tyre and see the isthmus built during the seige. So cool that this military landbridge just became part of the city.
Fuck every zionist
The Lebanese government is so unbelievably cucked
They’re calling it “the most pathetic state in history”. Watch your country get invaded and your cities leveled and your people massacred and do fucking nothing at all
worse than nothing, issue mealy mouthed statements condemning the people fighting to defend your country and supporting the people destroying it
So they saw ISIS blowing up Palmyra and said “if
our CIA backed friendsthose guys over there can do it why can’t we destroy world heritage sites?”it sucks that israel is on stolen land because then you can’t just wish for it to be turned to glass instead
tactical nukes have pretty low yield and don’t leave a lot of fallout :)
Still, it’s not our land to destroy.
agreed i’m just japing, in this scenario it would presumably be the resistance with the nuke anyway
Other than being unable to stop them, why has Lebanon allowed Israel to depopulate their country? Surely it violates their national sovereignty?
Comprador government.
these zionist pigs want to literally erase history and write it in their image. they’re gonna just pretend none of it ever happened and somehow european israelis lived there for the last 2000 years
Hell, they’re probably relying on everyone who opposes them to die off eventually, leaving behind only their diehard supporters so they can do just that. Destroy and rewrite history.
If humanity lets this go on oh god please just fucking destroy the earth at this point. A future with Israelis is not a future worth continuing for.
There is no future with Israelis. Fascism an an inherently self destructive ideology. It is essentially a furnace that burns human lives and eventually either enough people get mad and start fighting it that is collapses or if it somehow wins it turns inward and begins to destroy itself. Just as it’s said “Socialism or Barbarism” you can say “Anti-Fascism or Extinction” both are simply statements of fact. Those are the choices. There is no 3rd option.
I know the US is running out of standoff weapons. Is Israel in the same danger?
They buy their shit from us, so probably.
I don’t think the zionists are forced to use standoff, are they? does Lebanon have functional air defenses?
Israelis were very violent in the old testament. so, yea.
Important to note that Israelis are not Israelites. While there is some minority of distant ancestral relationship, they are decidedly not the same groups. Most direct descendants of the Israelites today would be called Palestinians.
At least the don’t have their ancient alien sonic weapon this go around
They had a whole festival for it that was cut short on October 7th
They clearly didn’t get the hint the first time Israel was destroyed.
