What I mostly hear about Shein is their impact on the climate and how ‘non-green’ they are.
It’s great. China does something faster, cheaper, and more effectively than us? They’re bad for the environment. They’re not sustainable. But have you considered the climate impact?
Greenwashing is so pervasive it’s adopted in leftist circles as well, but it’s an integral part of the imperialist toolkit.
edit: finished the video, the conclusion is basically it. shein didn’t invent this system, they’re just better at it. I remember IKEA being a famous example some 15 years ago, creating pressure on smaller suppliers because they negotiate for a very low price, but at least they’re a reliable customer.
what the fuck even is this comment
I don’t know, what the fuck is yours? why did you feel it was worth spamming my notifications with this?
Mfw fast fashion is somehow ok for the environment because it’s China doing it.
I get not shitting on China for no reason like the imperialists do, but glazing China for things that are still obviously bad is a wild take. Fuck fast fashion and fuck this comment. Consumerist apologist slop.
Did you watch the video? The interesting thing is apparently Shein is not actually popular among Chinese people. It makes me wonder whether “fast fashion” is in general. Further, the way they produce things seems better for the environment, since they are not overproducing so much and instead are producing in relation to monitoring of trends. It has a cost, which is the frantic labor of the workers, but I did not see anything that suggests the working conditions are equivalent to a company like Amazon where somebody can die on the warehouse floor. It would be important to know, for example, what happens if a worker has an issue.
I didn’t say it’s good when China does it, I said they do it better than the west and that’s when accusations against Shein come up.
Either way I don’t remember asking for your opinion about my comments.
But i keep on seeing videos about child labour, suicide nets and 24/7 slave labour! /s
Thanks for the post! I found it quite hard to get info on what is true about the sweatshops and labour rights in general in China.
Glad that you found it helpful!
If you ever need information like this, my advice is to join Rednote! Posts like this appear on my feed most of the time! You can also contact the creator if you have questions
I actually did immediately join rednote for this exact reason. Do you have some links so that i can train my algorithm to give me political and economic explanations rather than hot dancing chicks?😬
Sadly, I only have this one at the moment. 🥲
What I do have is some DPRK accounts that I follow.
Would you be willing to share good users to follow?
Well, what we define as “good” may vary with each person. However, I have shared some content creator worth following in posts for this community and c/SocialistArt.
My advice is to navigate through rednote and train your algo. After a while, you will find amazing stuff like socialist art, fun facts regarding China, technology, useful tech website and so on.
I’ll try. I generally find what you share to be “good,” my issue is 3D life taking up a lot of time and effort. I get on the app and end up watching teacup painting, cooking, etc that the algo serves, and that’s fine, but I’m really looking for solidly socialist content.
Edit to add thank you very much!
Something something, test demand, something something then mass order and produce, modus operandi
Not much people in China domestically consume Shein
Instead of concentrated sweatshop factories, more like decentralized division of labor factories of varying quality
Internal migrant labor is used, especially since they are attracted by opportunities of higher pay at peak time
Shein didn’t invent this machine, they just became incredibly good at using it
Not much people in China domestically consume Shein
That piece of information mentioned in the video was very interesting. Never thought Shein wouldn’t be as popular in China as it is abroad.
That’s so cool! I was there during COVID (don’t ask), and all of those places were closed. I didn’t know they all specialized in clothing.
wow…that city reminds me my own…and shein looks like a pretty interesting business model. another W for socialism with chinese characteristic having the variety and competition that capitalism just claims to have
I’m trying to figure out if I believe this really is a win for China.
Basically, Shein is an Amazon for the production line where you have any sort of organization represented, i,e, could be mom-and-pop prod, to companies, to co-ops, Shein itself is, as the video points out, just a data platform. So the exact nature of Shein is harder to pinpoint since it’s structured heterogeneously (with regards to as to who owns Shein’s means of production). But it is Shein who controls the labour process and who appropriates surplus value. Is Shein running a micro-planned-economy because it does economic planning (fashion forecasting) before production? For me that is a no. The reason Shein can operate the way it does is however because China operates under five-year plans with a specific focus on energy, home-ownership and the vegetable-basket program. So perhaps a win, but this is still, I’m guessing, a pretty exploitative business model if you are just looking at Shein. Socialism with Chinese characteristics aims at developing the productive forces, is Shein itself doing that? To me that is a no, but this further makes me wonder; is merely existing within Chinas socialist framework enough to fulfil that criteria?
well…shein still uses capitalist “logic”, but it’s still one step ahead of bourgueois style of performance
