How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/

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    If we didn’t eat cows there would probably not be many cows at all.

    Look up what happened to sheep in America after people mostly stopped eating mutton.

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      Would you rather live to be exploited to death or not be born at all?

      Sheep are not native to the Americas and are not extinct, far from it actually.

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      Man you should be glad we torture you on a daily basis, otherwise you wouldn’t even exist.

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        People have a really odd look on farms. Unless farms are way different. Most cattle farms don’t torture their animals and they are free roaming. Now feed lots where they go to be killed are another matter but that is last stage not their whole life.

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      My guys the cows were bred by humans in the first place, farming is not a conservation charity. The only reason people value cows is for their bodies anyway.

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        The only reason people value cows is for their bodies anyway.

        And dairy.

        And aesthetics and spirit. (Joyous to spend time with ~ & think of hinduism’s take on cows too).

        And fertiliser (& soil biome). (Yay, more plants growing better, without chemical fertiliser).

        And more. (Not all of it pleasant ~ e.g. bull fighting and perversions).

        Not just meat, leather & bone broth.

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          When I said their bodies I also meant for milk exploitation. While I agree that spending time with cows is cool, this is not the reason they’re bred. Farmers earn their living from selling and exploiting cow’s bodies, this is why they breed them, not because they’re nice to be around, not because they think it’s cool that cows exist, not for the cow’s benefit and best interest. This is not to say that farmers hate the animals they raise or that they are evil or intentionally want to cause them harm (I believe most of them don’t), but animal farming is never in the animal’s interest.

          I still don’t think it’s a big deal, it’s not like the world population will go vegan overnight. To enjoy some time with cows I suggest people visit their local animal sanctuary to support the animals who were rescued from the industry and can be free.

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      Assuming this is even accurate… it’s bad because…?

      If they’d go extinct then either let them or help them. How is forcefully breeding them just for torture and genocide better than them going extinct?

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        Torture most cows I see live a pretty good life. Roam around outside eat and are feed in the winter. Not all cows are killed at that age. And this is slightly wrong for cows usually butchered around 2. I mean at least be accurate.

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        Cows are pretty stupid and very inefficient animals. Never spent time on a farm?

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          they are not as stupid as sheep and i spent a month bucking hay every summer until i was 12 and the famiily sold the dairy, why?