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What are the sources of the data??
Anybody can make a list of things and add numbers next to them.
https://www.ecosia.org/search?addon=firefox&addonversion=6.3.0&q=world+health+care+index+taiwan+87
https://www.numbeo.com/health-care/rankings_by_country.jsp
https://www.numbeo.com/health-care/indices_explained.jsp
Numbeo is a Serbian crowd-sourced online database of perceived consumer prices, real property prices, and quality of life metrics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo
sounds garbage but looking at other index (CEO World)
Numbeo:
CEO World:
Guess we’ll never know
There’s no way Canada and US are that close. And every other website has Canada high. There’s something wrong going on with Numbero
And the Netherlands is 3rd??? The doctors are horrid. The system is horrid. The insurances are so expensive. People go to Belgium and Germany for doctor visits. I remember a couple of Indian lads going all the all the way to India.
This obviously doesn’t take into account accessibility.
Thailand is 10th, but i assure you the general population doesn’t have access to better quality care than Australians in 20th place, simply because they can’t afford it.
It’s also about how it’s perceived.
I’m from Russia, and I live in Denmark. Yes, if something life-threatening will happen to me in Denmark, I’ll probably get the best treatment, get operated using high-tech equipment, etc. But for something more routine, in Russia I can just visit a doctor (today. I will complain about the long line, but today), and in Denmark I will have to book an appointment (like in a week or two) to GP, and for a specialist I will go to GP, and then to a specialist if GP approves (there is a chance a GP will say “you’re fine”, and you can’t do anything.
A GP in Denmark can tell you to “drink some tea and rest more” if you have chronic pain, or something like that, and it will be hard to overturn that decision.
So, in both countries I have tax-funded doctors, but in Denmark I will be treated like in 3 weeks (either perfectly, or not treated at all), In Russia I will be treated quickly (from “meh” to “good”).
Special cases like if you have a rare generic dicease and the medicine costs $100k a shot. Denmark - you will get as many shots as needed. Russia - you gotta findraise or die.
Teeth: In Denmark stomatologybis not covered, so you pay exorbitant money. In Russia, you can choose to go to a “free” doctor, then it depends. You will probably pay extra for better anesthesia, better filling materials, etc, but technically if you are dirt-poor, you can get your teeth done. So when I moved to Denmark permanently, I did “everything”.
Paid medicine: In Denmark additional insurance from work and such will get you quicker appointments in the same places as the “free tier”. In Russia, there are commercial clinics and agreements with hospitals, so you can get the best treatment available just because you work in a good company with the perk.
Doctor’s skills: Historically high in Russia, “better-than-average”+knowing modern approaches/tech in Denmark.
Resume: is Danish medicine working generally better? Yes. Should Russia be out of top 20-30-… places? No.
I have a list of stuff to do when I’m visiting Russia when the war is over: teeth, vasectomy, fixing axe scar on a finger, tomography and all checks, etc, and I’m not doing it here.Yer, we have our issues, but there is no way we are that low on a list regarding ‘best’ healthcare.
Top ten is still nice, especially considering it’s a list accounting for different disciplines. So even if Korea is the best for plastic surgery, they can be lower in the rating because something else is not perfect.
Plus, any rating can be biased, not include something, or have a methodology favoring something. See my comparison of Denmark in Russia in another comment (Russia is not even there, I’m not sure if it’s not rated or if it’s rated that low)
Uae- is that counting healthcare for the slaves or no ?
I’m disgusted to even be neighbors with someone who can’t even break top 30 in healthcare. Why did we have those wars when you’re so weak?
Git gud Sweden, unhealthy losers… And fuck you Norway! is 12th really the best you can do with our oil money?
For the sake of any non-Scandinavians this is obviously “/s”… ~hey Swedes and Norwegians no it isn’t, we’re simply just better ╭∩╮~
Swedish healthcare is so bad rn. Since right wing parties got the government the queues to adult mental health care has increased tremendously. I am waiting for an autism evaluation and the avgerage wait time is 2 years. Even worse for trans people where the queue time tripled, from 2 years to 6 years.
It infuriaties me how other politicians point out that this is the longest health care queue times we’ve ever had and still the Christian Democrats need to respond “its actually deceasing!”. Like yeah both could be true, sadly they probably arent. But its great we found out private healthcare company Kry funnelled millions of crowns via salesmen asking people in public to just sign them as their healthcare giver. Not even doing shit just registering new people as clients gets you funds from the government so that great.
Can we chop a finger off of Uffe and Jimmie for every year the queue increases? 🤔
I don’t know who those guys are, but as a rule of thumb don’t cut people’s fingers off. Go for their family members instead. People will go through a lot of pain personally, but the added emotional stress of protecting a loved one makes them cave in much faster.
TL;DR I don’t really understand these numbers. I mean I’ll believe them when we’re the best Scandinavian country, but i still don’t understand.
Danish queues for a non emergency psychiatric evals are similar to yours. I realize that my meds aren’t working properly right now. The rest of this paragraph is just me making a convoluted rant about queues. There’s a single psychiatrist with just 12 weeks wait, right dab smack in middle of the country, but that’s most certainly an error, because everyone else in a 100km radius is +80weeks. The next best queues are +45 weeks if you want to travel to Sealand several times ( which in my case can be +120€ per trip) if you insist on not going to Sealand, then the queues start at 80 weeks, and if I limit my traveltime by car to an hour, then it’s 120 weeks… The psychiatrist that evaluated my ADHD had about a queue of about 75 weeks back then, now the same place is reporting a queue of 300 weeks, that’s 6 fucking years. I mean you can sign up, and hope that people in front of you die of old age.
And the stupid thing is, that it’s all artificial. Most psychiatrists could see more patients, but they’re only allowed to bill a certain amount of hours to the government. And only psychiatrists are allowed to start people on ADHD meds.
Of course, if you can spend 2k €, or happen to have private healthcare insurance through your job, then there’s no queue. But the rest of us are just fucked.
So why are we better at healthcare? It’s definitely not psychiatric care. Maybe we live longer? IDK.
It is really all over the entire spectrum of Swedish healthcare going down the drain. Cutbacks and savings everywhere in the public sector to fund tax cuts that are huge for the economic elites and marginal for everyone else. Deporting young people that are well integrated in Swedish society with work and paying taxes and have no connection to their parents former homeland. Yet people vote for the right wing and our social democrats are ideologically lost while trying to appeal to right wing voters and tip toeing across the center. I think it will become worse and that this is exactly the extremist breeding ground that the far right nationalist party SD (unsurprisingly more or less openly nazi only thirty years ago) have in their long term plan for power.
Now I finally understand why all these old men move to Thailand
And I thought it was because of pedophilia or something like that. It was about healthcare all along
Who says it can’t be both cheap child molestration AND healthcare? I mean you’re going to contract something eventually when raping kids, better go somewhere where it can be treated…
Old guys traveling alone to Thailand for “the culture”, are they the same that vote far right in your country? The Thai-afficionados in Denmark seem to all be against immigration and are tough on crime.
Great, are other countries following the terrible US structure of Fucked healthcare so that more billionaires can be made or more corrupt political power could be had??!
Someone find the last checkpoint from 2000 and start over. We night lose progress of 26 years but at least we can fix/make improvements now that we know how the game works.
there is no way switzeland is behind spain, france, uk and germany. i dont know what this list measures but it cant be medical healthcare for general public.
The US is on the healthdoesn’tcare list.
Well it doesn’t say affordability is part of the calculation.
Affordability is always a factor, at least in my opinion. Whether it somehow went into those numbers, nobody knows.
But could a health care system be rated good if it was only available to the top 10% richest?
Apart from that have several studies shown that while being the most expensive health care system in the world by far, it is also by far not the best in quality. In some factors, it is in the “developing country” range, actually.
Well, yes, these are all probably reasons why it doesnt even appear on the list.
This seems just as accurate as “polling”.
I don’t see Brazil here…
Don’t worry everyone, the Dutch government is doing their best to lose that spot, it’ll be vacant soon!
Im just wondering how it is up that high. I see a lot of people cross the belgian border for healthcare and gas lol.
Something fishy about those numbers imo tbh
