People at the start of their careers are particularly affected by the UK's weak job market.
      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        14·
        2 days ago

        i fucking hate when they just list salary as “competitive”. and i hate how normalized it is.

        full confession, im lucky and old. in my discipline, i have incredible credentials and experience, and a CV that fucking cooks because i can and have played well with others and delivered the goods. i stick to the public sector, so I can’t “name my price”, but i have been able to work where i want if there’s an opening. point being, im not standing with my hat in my hand like i was 20 years ago.

        the point:
        i have been on multiple hiring committees and every time some partner org is trying to fill a position and they list that shit instead of a salary band, i call them out on it. i tell them “i would never apply to this job posting”. and it always ruffles feathers as they scramble to say some bullshit like “we want someone who isn’t so focused on the money” and other toxic, out of touch bullshit.

        it is one of the most common signals to prospective employees that the hiring decision makers do not respect their time and will always default to whatever tactic exploits the power imbalance.

        i get why for-profits do it, because the whole arrangement is adversarial. it’s a shit tactic, its counter productive mostly, but i get the logic. when a community “give a fuck” type of org does it, it’s so fucking toxic.

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          10·
          2 days ago

          The problem is that the non profits are run by a toxic combo of people with business brain and donors who have been primed by repeated scandals to believe that any admin expenses above keeping the lights on must necessarily be some form of graft.

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      8·
      1 day ago

      masters degree required, phd preferred. 5 years experience minimum*†

      *We dont actually want anyone with masters, you’re overqualified and not a good fit for the team

      † Also, you need to say exactly what we want to hear, and have at least 10 years experience in the field

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        23·
        2 days ago

        I think it’s one of those things that it started as a purely technical term, got used as an insult enough that it borderlines as a slur, so now it’s jarring to see it used at all.

  • Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    7·
    1 day ago

    I know this is for the UK, so I’m not in their exact demographic, but I’m kind of feeling similar effects in the US. I have an “okay” career that provides more than others. But still doesn’t really provide enough to have any sort of upward mobility or afford much luxury. No promotions, no house, for sure. Only a down trend to be eaten away by inflation. Looking at alternate careers, it seems most of them expect you to start from scratch, take a significant pay cut doing so, and EVERY industry is “oversaturated” at the entry level outside of like nursing/healthcare and other jobs people are actively trying to leave due to worsening pay and working conditions. My partner has also been out of uni for several years now and is still struggling to actually find a permanent and stable job in their field, even with a “useful” degree and has had to hop from seasonal/temp jobs multiple times. It sucks personally, but also sucks for the younger people who now also need to compete with us older folks with more experience applying to their jobs due to lack of other options.