• pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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      'Member when presidents knew how to have an in-depth discussion on a range of topics, or even a deep conversation with an interviewer on a single subject, or just talk eloquently at all, or just not ramble incoherently.

      Man I remember, good times. Hasn’t been since early 2017 but it feels like a lifetime.

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        I was just thinking about this kind of thing today. Taking figures and countries in isolation as being so bad without comparing them to anything remotely similar. I don’t think we will get to a point were we don’t want to do things better. It is a shame as I did really like him but man he did do a few things that he could easily have not.

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      Obama is a war criminal too.

      Crazy that this is considered a controversial statement, given his support for the Saudi-led genocide in Yemen. Nevermind the Libya intervention, responsible for the complete collapse of multiple large cities and the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians.

      For some reason liberal whataboutism has bloated all this from the history books. Blue MAGA is a curse on the country.

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        It’s not a controversial statement it just has literally nothing to do with the post.

        I can’t speak for everyone but the reason I downvoted them was actually the “don’t think he’s our friend” nobody is saying that right now and sometimes war criminals can say things that are correct, if you can’t handle that then that’s a you issue

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          We solved this crisis already, then blue MAGA fumbled us right back into it. Maybe we fix both this time?