Context: a thread about what instance to reccomend.
Turns out talking about .ml users excusing Russian war crimes and Iranian crimes against humanity is not OK in c/asklemmy. Nor is mocking defederated Hexbears on alt accounts who literally admit to sealioning XD
Seems a tale older than FidoNet, we must remember we’re one take a ModGod dislikes away from GOODBYE!
Doing a ban then quick unban to remove comments so they don’t show in the modlog feels kind of abusive. It’s exploiting a flaw of Lemmy to prevent the removed comments from showing up.
One of the biggest reasons why I dislike lw is they constantly just scrub removed comments from mod log
And if calling people out for sealioning is against the rules, why not just straight ban me? Why ban and insta-unban, just to quietly remove the comments and then not have a ban appeal another mod might see?
Makes no sense really.
After reading the original post, one might assume that the community in question is !asklemmy@lemmy.ml , but after checking the modlog it becomes clear that deal is about !asklemmy@lemmy.world
Since there are no deleted comments in the modlog, there are two options: either .world moderators are now protecting all the .ml narratives and it’s PTB then, or this comment was such low quality shitposting that is was unacceptable even by .world standards, and in this case it’s clear YDI if not YDM.
We don’t know who owns these instances. It could be anyone.
It could even be you.
Lol, I would not know even how to turn on each thing that needs to be turned on.
That’s exactly what someone who owns the instance would say! We’re on to you!
You should post a link
It also seems like you were the sealion
I’m not a fan of removing comments with ban so the mod fucked up there
Im gonna call this BPR, but you also deserved some action, I just cant see how bad your comments were
That’s a “n-no u” after about 3 images mocking the week old account for admitting to sealioning. Why not screenshot the part where the .ml user literally admits to sealioning ?
Quothe the week-old account:
based on the context (and other things you’ve said) it does look like you showed up in response to an ongoing conversation to derail it with demanding attention for your concocted position, which looks like sealioning.
I don’t think jokingly asking to for more hexbears to defend the Iranian and Russian governments is sealioning. Your fellow .ml user literally admits to and then defends sealioning as a tactic, which you have omitted yet again. I don’t know what else to tell ya.
You can ignore Diva, she hates people who actually do stuff more than she does. She pretends to be active but spends most of her time whining about how anarchists are the real counter revolutionaries.
I am an anarchist though.
I don’t know if I’d qualify whining about ‘tankies’ online as doing much of anything, I spend a not-insignificant amount of time every week outside doing things with other anarchists
What was your comment about Iran was it only legitimate condemnation of the regime authoritarianism or did you mention support for the united snakes intervention?
Simply pointed out how when I see someone defending Russia’s invasion or Iran’s murder and maiming of their citizens, it’s .ML defending it.
Wht dis you lie
Do you understand that the usa will not differenciate between a pro lgbt and an anti lgbt person. Should we also bomb the homophobic people in the usa?
Why u bring up several months old unrelated comment about Iran getting their nuclear weaponry sites bombed?
Because you are a liar who claim that the only reason you got removed was because you condemn Iran human right abuses and now you shamelessly defend your former comment where you express supporting bombing nuclear site which is illegal under international laws . Hypocrites was condemning rightfully Russia bombing nuclear sites in Ukraine but support when Israel does it to Iran.
Everybody should coitize ml users for supporting Russian invasion but it is not a reason to lie about them
?? Bud can you explain what am I “lying” about exactly?
Are you deadass trying to equate me not being upset with 0 people dying disabling nuclear weapon facilities half a year ago with the ghouls making excuses for the 7,000++ humans the Iranian government massacred for protesting?
There was no proof of Iran having the intention to build nukes and the attack on those was against international laws that you claim to care about You are no better than the tankis. Both the usa and israel killed a lot more yet you support those bombing Iran knowing very well they also target innocent civilians
Edit : It is not even true that nobody died too. The nuclear scientists, the techniciens, the administrative workers are all considered civilians and died during the war.
Did you support usa occupation of Iraq?
Buddy come on now, there’s “no proof” of Iran moving towards building nuclear weapons like there’s “no proof” Epstein killed himself.
I never supported the Iraq occupation, or US + Israel’s and Iran’s ongoing conflicts, just one time commented I wasn’t overly upset (wasn’t happy either) to the single in-context action of destroying a nuclear site without killing anyone. I don’t actually like wars and think we’d all be better off if we had leaders who built bridges instead of bombs.
One shouldn’t equate 0 people dead with well over 7,000 people dead because they are both against international law.
My opposition to 7000+ humans being deliberately massacred by the Iranian government isn’t that it’s against the law, it’s the 7000+ dead humans. Laws are not morals.
I didn’t adress the russian part because there is no excuses to defend Russian invasion.
And I asked you what was your exact comment so I know if you simply condemned the Iranian regime or you also supported the west intervension bexause there is people who want to bomb Iran for those human right abuses
A different comment, but still a clear example of the second:
For context, which is often key, that is a several months old comment about Iran’s nuclear weaponry sites getting exploded.
You showed no context showing that they removed your comment simply for calling out Iranian human right abuses
I’m not sure what context I can provide exactly, my comments were wiped and there wasn’t comment in the modlog to explain what rule I broke.
I’m just running on the assumption the mod didn’t agree and so banned and insta unbanned me, and I think I responded to you up the thread summarizing my first comment that was removed. If there’s something else I can give you, let me know.
Ah I get you, my original post was something along the lines of ‘where can I subscribe to the newsletter to learn more about how Russia has a right to invade their neighbors and how Iran murdering and maiming their citizens is actually OK? Never knew being anti-west made you ontologically good until I heard from a .ml’
Queue a line of .ml posters exhaustingly arguing semantics instead the point!
Not once asked for more bombs and death in the world.
Tread carefully here because dbzer0 is getting more triad adjacent every day.
Because they don’t allow genocide to be promoted? Or is it because Hexbear hates the admins here?
Good for them
If mods here get mad and powertrip at me laughing at mad powertripping mods, I can only laugh harder!
Like many things in life, It’s all made up, the points don’t matter, and a chuckle is worth more than most things :)
PTB. That’s one of many reasons My instance defederated .ml, AND we have a rule against debate tactics optimised to exhaust and intimidate. If you’re sick of having to tolerate those authoritarians, try a better instance.
He was banned from a .world sub. You actually wrote this comment and posted it. Incredible.
Reading is hard for liberals.
