• WashedAnus [he/him]
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    119 months ago

    Nuremberg trial like: “The SS is a criminal organization and all of its members should be considered criminals”

    Eighty years later, liberals talking about, “Well, they didn’t specify the Galician divisions!”

  • culpritus [any]
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    9 months ago

    There’s a lot of handwaving and doing a double-genocide theory going on in that one.

    These quotes from the old cretin’s blog about how nazi occupation was the best 2 years of his life doesn’t mean he’s a nazi everybody!

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    In the Hunka case, commentary taking a more balanced view of the complex history does exist, but it’s rare, and when it does occur, it is by unfortunate necessity very long — a direct contrast to most propaganda narratives that are successfully spread by Russia and its agents. Sadly, an idea simple enough to fit on a T-shirt is vastly more powerful than a rebuttal that has to start with “well, actually . . .”

    the link for “a more balanced view of the complex history”:

    https://www.bugeyedandshameless.com/p/yaroslav-hunka-canada

    quotes from that link:

    Things were worse in the east: Soviet policies intentionally withheld food from Ukraine, at least in part to suppress its strong independence movement. Millions died in the famine, the Holodomor. And now, the USSR was taking over all of Ukraine.

    A teenage Hunka spent his days “hoping that those mystical German knights who were so kicking the hated Poles in the ass would appear any minute,” as he wrote in a 2011 blog.2 “Instead, one day a column of horsemen with red stars on their hats arrived.”

    He moved to a new school, where he studied with a mix of Ukrainians, Poles, and Jewish refugees from elsewhere in Europe. “We wondered why they were running away from such a civilized Western nation as the Germans,” Hunka wrote.

    The arrests and detentions continued, but he said German occupation was easier. Unlike the Russian NKVD, German intelligence didn’t speak their language and didn’t seem interested in imposing German culture onto a people they saw as inferior. “The next two years were the happiest years of my life,” he wrote. Groups like the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists sprung up and organized Ukrainian youth: That became the nucleus of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), which fought all foreign powers inside Ukraine: Soviet and German alike. (Some factions also sought to “cleanse” Poles from its territory.)

    It wasn’t until 1943 that Germany, facing declining fortunes in the war, opted to organize legions in its occupied territories. That’s when Hunka joined the Galicia Division, formed under the SS under the encouragement of the Ukrainian Central Committee. “The thought of turning those beasts into human form with a red star on the forehead became real,” Hunka wrote.

  • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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    69 months ago

    Even NATOpedia disagrees with this guy:

    On 1 October 1946, the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, in the trial of Major War Criminals, found that all members of all SS divisions “to be criminal within the meaning of the Charter”.[9] While in 1985 the Canadian Deschênes Commission concluded that the Galicia division should not be indicted as a group,[10] in 2003 The Head Commission for the Prosecution of Crimes against the Polish Nation, found that the 4th battalion of the 14th division was guilty of war crimes.[11][12] In 2005, the Institute of History at the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, confirmed the Polish findings of war crimes committed by the 4th battalion of the 14th division.